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2020 Election Results

Not the blue wave we expected, but might have been without Republicans closing polling stations, interfering with mail in voting, and just flat out lying. Cheating is all you've got when you're a tribalistic social dominance cult and have no conscience or principles.

The more I think about this, the more I think it really was a blue wave. Considering all the cheating and voter suppression by Republicans, who clearly are not bound by conscience or principles, a massive effort from the left is what it took. But this is only the first step in ridding our country of right wing authoritarian disease, and it's a no-brainer that things will likely get a lot uglier and more violent in the next few months and beyond.
 
Another interesting note. This makes four consecutive presidential elections in which the Republican candidate has lost the popular vote. The RNC is facing a serious demographic problem. Where by "demographic", I mean its actual statistical meaning, not a dogwhistle for race issues. I mean that, mathematically, national elections are becoming harder and harder for them to realitically win. Trump may not like the Electoral College, but if the DNC actually desired to eliinate their rivals for good, eliminating it would be a good strategy for doing so, never mind the whole "packing the courts" bullshit.

I wouldn't bank on ever getting rid of the Electoral college. But now that there's a precedent for universal mail-in ballots there will be much larger Democrat turn-outs.
 
Not the blue wave we expected, but might have been without Republicans closing polling stations, interfering with mail in voting, and just flat out lying. Cheating is all you've got when you're a tribalistic social dominance cult and have no conscience or principles.

The more I think about this, the more I think it really was a blue wave. Considering all the cheating and voter suppression by Republicans, who clearly are not bound by conscience or principles, a massive effort from the left is what it took. But this is only the first step in ridding our country of right wing authoritarian disease, and it's a no-brainer that things will likely get a lot uglier and more violent in the next few months and beyond.

Then why did the House lose seats!
 
How Trump’s erratic behavior and failure on coronavirus doomed his reelection - Washington Post - "The same impulses that helped lift the president to
victory in 2016 contributed to his undoing four years later."
Trump was the most unpopular president of modern times: Divisive and alienating, he rarely sought to reach out to the middle and his erratic behavior and harder-edged policies were strongly opposed by most Americans. Even before this year, his reelection would have been difficult.

But the president finally lost, aides and allies said, because of how he mismanaged the virus. He lost, they said, over the summer, when the virus didn’t go away as he promised; when racial unrest roiled the nation in the wake of George Floyd’s death and protesters ran rampant through the streets; and when federal and local authorities gassed largely peaceful demonstrators in Lafayette Square across from the White House so Trump could stage a photo op. And he lost, they said, during a roughly three-week stretch from late September to mid-October, when an angry and brooding Trump heckled and interrupted his way through the first debate and then, several days later, announced he had tested positive for the coronavirus.

He also lost, aides added, after years of confrontational and incendiary conduct turned off independent voters, who finally said they had seen enough.

The same impulses that helped lift him to victory in 2016 — the outsider ethos; the angry, burn-it-all-down cri de coeur; the fiery and controversial rants; the false reality forged through untruths and deception — contributed to his undoing just four years later. Exhausted voters in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, who once gave Trump a shot, turned on him Tuesday.
He may have seemed like a different sort of leader back in 2016, but he was a very horrible one, and one would have to be a yellow-dog Republican to continue supporting him.
 
What will Trump do between now and Jan 20 Inauguration day to sabotage the country?

We know that he's going to try to stir up drama with lawsuits and try to get his base to become violent. What else?

Sell USA state secrets to Putin.

I'm sure Putin will reward Trump greatly for compromising USA security, and Trump is well known for vindictiveness.

Now that the American people have announced "You're Fired", all Trump has left to do is sabotage those American people.
For personal gain, of course. If Iran offered more than Russia, Trump would undoubtedly sell our military and economic plans to them instead.

Tom
 
Another interesting note. This makes four consecutive presidential elections in which the Republican candidate has lost the popular vote. The RNC is facing a serious demographic problem. Where by "demographic", I mean its actual statistical meaning, not a dogwhistle for race issues. I mean that, mathematically, national elections are becoming harder and harder for them to realitically win. Trump may not like the Electoral College, but if the DNC actually desired to eliinate their rivals for good, eliminating it would be a good strategy for doing so, never mind the whole "packing the courts" bullshit.

I wouldn't bank on ever getting rid of the Electoral college. But now that there's a precedent for universal mail-in ballots there will be much larger Democrat turn-outs.

We don't have to get rid of the EC to democratize the USA presidential election process.
Tom
 
Not the blue wave we expected, but might have been without Republicans closing polling stations, interfering with mail in voting, and just flat out lying. Cheating is all you've got when you're a tribalistic social dominance cult and have no conscience or principles.

The more I think about this, the more I think it really was a blue wave. Considering all the cheating and voter suppression by Republicans, who clearly are not bound by conscience or principles, a massive effort from the left is what it took. But this is only the first step in ridding our country of right wing authoritarian disease, and it's a no-brainer that things will likely get a lot uglier and more violent in the next few months and beyond.

Then why did the House lose seats!

Good point. But remember some of those seats are occupied by the best cheaters and liars of all time, such as McConnell and Graham, who learned very quickly in the Trump term how to rile their base, and in states that Trump swept. Ugh. Still think we should have gotten the senate, though.
 
Trump activists gather Saturday in state capitals to protest Biden victory - The Washington Post
Pro-Trump activists were gathering in state capitals on Saturday to rally in support of a baseless campaign called “Stop the Steal” that was kicked off Facebook this week for spreading misinformation and posts inciting violence.

The protests are among several efforts by President Trump and his supporters to delegitimize the election results by claiming, without evidence, that ballot counts favorable to President-elect Joe Biden are the result of a sprawling, multistate conspiracy to hijack the vote through fraud.

The group’s flyers call for “peaceful protests” in 50 state capitals and key cities, such as Philadelphia and Las Vegas, where ballots continue to be counted. The presence of powerful weapons at the rallies has left law enforcement officials edgy and election workers fearful that they could be targeted or attacked.
Calling oneself a pacifist while bringing a military rifle?

Trump and several Trumpies and right-wingers are supporting the efforts.

Our long national nightmare is over - The Washington Post
(About the Democrats not taking the Senate and losing seats in the House...)
But they don’t do justice to the historic victory that Democrats, independent voters and a brave few Republicans just pulled off. They denied a president a second term for the first time in 28 years — putting Trump in the company of Jimmy Carter and Herbert Hoover. President-elect Biden — just writing that brings relief — received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history, in an election with historically high voter turnout. A president who loves to apply superlatives can now claim a RECORD, HUGE and BIGGEST EVER defeat.
That total number isn't very meaningful unless it's compared to the total population.
 
What happens if election results are contested? - The Washington Post - "Trump wants state legislatures, the Supreme Court and Congress to help him out. But can they?"

In Europe, relief after Biden win, Trump loss in U.S. election - The Washington Post
President Trump called Europe a “foe.” He said the continent’s cities were immigrant-ridden, dangerous “no-go zones.” He threw leaders into a panic with threats to withdraw from NATO.

And as Europeans watched the United States elect Joe Biden as its next president, many embraced his promises to respect long-standing alliances and regain the world’s trust in his country.

...
Trump is not universally disliked in Europe. His 2016 election gave a jolt of energy to the continent’s populists. The right-wing leaders of Poland and Hungary — who have been sanctioned by the European Union for dismantling courts and undermining their opponents — get along well with him. The far-right prime minister of Slovenia fired off a tweet this past week declaring Trump’s victory.

But most leaders here will be glad to see Trump’s back and eager to trade him in for a more conventional counterpart.
 
Then why did the House lose seats!

Good point. But remember some of those seats are occupied by the best cheaters and liars of all time, such as McConnell and Graham, who learned very quickly in the Trump term how to rile their base, and in states that Trump swept. Ugh. Still think we should have gotten the senate, though.

McConnell and Graham are in the Senate, not the House.
 
Then why did the House lose seats!

Good point. But remember some of those seats are occupied by the best cheaters and liars of all time, such as McConnell and Graham, who learned very quickly in the Trump term how to rile their base, and in states that Trump swept. Ugh. Still think we should have gotten the senate, though.

McConnell and Graham are in the Senate, not the House.

D'oh. Yes. I was thinking senate because that's where my mind has been for four years in terms of blueing those shits out.
 
Another interesting note. This makes four consecutive presidential elections in which the Republican candidate has lost the popular vote. The RNC is facing a serious demographic problem. Where by "demographic", I mean its actual statistical meaning, not a dogwhistle for race issues. I mean that, mathematically, national elections are becoming harder and harder for them to realistically win.
Which is why we can expect the GOP to double down on voter suppression.
Trump may not like the Electoral College, but if the DNC actually desired to eliinate their rivals for good, eliminating it would be a good strategy for doing so, never mind the whole "packing the courts" bullshit.
If Trump is sane and honest, he would love the EC, since it got him the POTUS in the first place.
 
Another interesting note. This makes four consecutive presidential elections in which the Republican candidate has lost the popular vote. The RNC is facing a serious demographic problem. Where by "demographic", I mean its actual statistical meaning, not a dogwhistle for race issues. I mean that, mathematically, national elections are becoming harder and harder for them to realitically win. Trump may not like the Electoral College, but if the DNC actually desired to eliinate their rivals for good, eliminating it would be a good strategy for doing so, never mind the whole "packing the courts" bullshit.

I wouldn't bank on ever getting rid of the Electoral college. But now that there's a precedent for universal mail-in ballots there will be much larger Democrat turn-outs.

Not get rid of the EC but make it moot. Many largely or perhaps entirely blue states have passed laws that would all throw their EV's to the winner of the popular vote. They would all take effect when enough states sign up to account for 270 EV's or whenever the winning threshold will be some day in the future. Not surprisingly no red state has signed onto this plan.
 
Trump activists gather Saturday in state capitals to protest Biden victory - The Washington Post
Pro-Trump activists were gathering in state capitals on Saturday to rally in support of a baseless campaign called “Stop the Steal” that was kicked off Facebook this week for spreading misinformation and posts inciting violence.

The protests are among several efforts by President Trump and his supporters to delegitimize the election results by claiming, without evidence, that ballot counts favorable to President-elect Joe Biden are the result of a sprawling, multistate conspiracy to hijack the vote through fraud.

The group’s flyers call for “peaceful protests” in 50 state capitals and key cities, such as Philadelphia and Las Vegas, where ballots continue to be counted. The presence of powerful weapons at the rallies has left law enforcement officials edgy and election workers fearful that they could be targeted or attacked.
Calling oneself a pacifist while bringing a military rifle?

Trump and several Trumpies and right-wingers are supporting the efforts.

Our long national nightmare is over - The Washington Post
(About the Democrats not taking the Senate and losing seats in the House...)
But they don’t do justice to the historic victory that Democrats, independent voters and a brave few Republicans just pulled off. They denied a president a second term for the first time in 28 years — putting Trump in the company of Jimmy Carter and Herbert Hoover. President-elect Biden — just writing that brings relief — received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history, in an election with historically high voter turnout. A president who loves to apply superlatives can now claim a RECORD, HUGE and BIGGEST EVER defeat.
That total number isn't very meaningful unless it's compared to the total population.

Trump lost by 2.8 million in 2016, to Godzillary . He's losing by over 4 million this time. His TeaParty supporters are losing ground. They're resorting to lawyers and lies and vague threats.

The numbers are very meaningful, given the population.
Tom
 
Don’t look now: The fight for the Senate continues into 2022 - Roll Call - "Similar to 2020, Republicans start on the defensive"

Vulnerable seats:
  • Republicans: PA, NC, IA, WI, FL
  • Democrats: AZ, NH, NV
  • (Depends on runoff outcome): GA
The President's party usually loses seats in midterms, something that will help the Republicans.

But the Republicans won't have something that likely boosted them this year: Trump running for President. Trump has a very fervent fan club, something that Biden totally lacks. If anything, Biden's running mate has more of a fan club than he has.

Also, since the economy will have nowhere to go but up, that should help the Democrats. Especially if they can somehow overcome Mitch McConnell's inevitable obstructionism.
 
Another interesting note. This makes four consecutive presidential elections in which the Republican candidate has lost the popular vote. The RNC is facing a serious demographic problem. Where by "demographic", I mean its actual statistical meaning, not a dogwhistle for race issues. I mean that, mathematically, national elections are becoming harder and harder for them to realitically win. Trump may not like the Electoral College, but if the DNC actually desired to eliinate their rivals for good, eliminating it would be a good strategy for doing so, never mind the whole "packing the courts" bullshit.

I wouldn't bank on ever getting rid of the Electoral college. But now that there's a precedent for universal mail-in ballots there will be much larger Democrat turn-outs.

Not get rid of the EC but make it moot. Many largely or perhaps entirely blue states have passed laws that would all throw their EV's to the winner of the popular vote. They would all take effect when enough states sign up to account for 270 EV's or whenever the winning threshold will be some day in the future. Not surprisingly no red state has signed onto this plan.

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

There is a national organization attempting to accomplish the democratization of the White House.

But the current rigged system benefits partisan politicians in the state legislatures, so it's slow going.
Tom
 
Not get rid of the EC but make it moot. Many largely or perhaps entirely blue states have passed laws that would all throw their EV's to the winner of the popular vote. They would all take effect when enough states sign up to account for 270 EV's or whenever the winning threshold will be some day in the future. Not surprisingly no red state has signed onto this plan.

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

There is a national organization attempting to accomplish the democratization of the White House.

But the current rigged system benefits partisan politicians in the state legislatures, so it's slow going.
Tom

Thanks for finding the link

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Not get rid of the EC but make it moot. Many largely or perhaps entirely blue states have passed laws that would all throw their EV's to the winner of the popular vote. They would all take effect when enough states sign up to account for 270 EV's or whenever the winning threshold will be some day in the future. Not surprisingly no red state has signed onto this plan.

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

There is a national organization attempting to accomplish the democratization of the White House.

But the current rigged system benefits partisan politicians in the state legislatures, so it's slow going.
Tom

Thanks for finding the link

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Notice how it's generally Republicans who don't want the American people to vote for President?

That's because fewer and fewer American voters are buying what the Republican Party is selling.
The GOP depends on gerrymandering and voter suppression and rigged systems like the EC to stay in power.
If it weren't for obsolete laws and policies the GOP would have died out in the 90s. The GOP got so weak they accepted their new TeaParty overlords and managed to install Trump, despite the American voters.
Tom
 
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