"Protester" Misconduct Catch All Thread

[Elixir]

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That there ain't no miss conduct! Them is PATRIOTZ!!

(Of course if they were black, the gutters would be running with blood)

 

[RVonse]

We demand that the people with the power and the weapons to brutalize almost anyone, and who do so on a regular basis, especially now and over the last four years as their authority figure has given them permission from the highest office in the land, be held to the strictest and highest standards possible. In this country, we hold poor and powerless people accountable at the level we should be holding police and politicians and corporations accountable. We've got it backwards, and those of us who do not lick boots will continue to scrutinize every even mildly violent thing cops do until they are held accountable to a degree befitting the power they hold and the trust the public needs to have in them.

I agree with you this time Floof, so very true indeed!

But who is it that votes for exactly this kind of government? Its you and the liberals! Take the last POTUS election for example, I'm just betting you voted for Biden and Harris who are in love with the CCP and the same kind of authoritative central boot licking government! Look at their history. It was not Trump who trained our police and gave them the military weapons he just wanted to restore order.

All I can say is that you guys are making the bed that everyone else like Derec has to sleep in too.

 

[Angry Floof]

We demand that the people with the power and the weapons to brutalize almost anyone, and who do so on a regular basis, especially now and over the last four years as their authority figure has given them permission from the highest office in the land, be held to the strictest and highest standards possible. In this country, we hold poor and powerless people accountable at the level we should be holding police and politicians and corporations accountable. We've got it backwards, and those of us who do not lick boots will continue to scrutinize every even mildly violent thing cops do until they are held accountable to a degree befitting the power they hold and the trust the public needs to have in them.

I agree with you this time Floof, so very true indeed!

But who is it that votes for exactly this kind of government? Its you and the liberals! Take the last POTUS election for example, I'm just betting you voted for Biden and Harris who are in love with the CCP and the same kind of authoritative central boot licking government! Look at their history.

All I can say is that you guys are making the bed that everyone else like Derec has to sleep in too.

From the guy who believes that no information can be trusted and therefore the only way to discern truth is go with your animal brain instincts.

No, U.S. Democrats are not communists. For fuck's sake, this is one of the stupidest of right wing falsehoods, and that is a high bar of stupidity!

 

[GenesisNemesis]

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Sec of state should've stood their ground.

 

[RVonse]

We demand that the people with the power and the weapons to brutalize almost anyone, and who do so on a regular basis, especially now and over the last four years as their authority figure has given them permission from the highest office in the land, be held to the strictest and highest standards possible. In this country, we hold poor and powerless people accountable at the level we should be holding police and politicians and corporations accountable. We've got it backwards, and those of us who do not lick boots will continue to scrutinize every even mildly violent thing cops do until they are held accountable to a degree befitting the power they hold and the trust the public needs to have in them.

I agree with you this time Floof, so very true indeed!

But who is it that votes for exactly this kind of government? Its you and the liberals! Take the last POTUS election for example, I'm just betting you voted for Biden and Harris who are in love with the CCP and the same kind of authoritative central boot licking government! Look at their history.

All I can say is that you guys are making the bed that everyone else like Derec has to sleep in too.

From the guy who believes that no information can be trusted and therefore the only way to discern truth is go with your animal brain instincts.

No, U.S. Democrats are not communists. For fuck's sake, this is one of the stupidest of right wing falsehoods, and that is a high bar of stupidity!

No matter how offended you may be, you can not deny the police were indoctrinated long before Trump. All he ever did at best was attempt to restore law and order after the start of chaos.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

But who is it that votes for exactly this kind of government? Its you and the liberals! Take the last POTUS election for example, I'm just betting you voted for Biden and Harris who are in love with the CCP

Any evidence at all that Biden and Harris are "in love with the CCP"? Or do you just have right wing memes to back up your points?

 

[RVonse]

No, U.S. Democrats are not communists.

It is undeniable that they support the CCP.

 

[Angry Floof]

From the guy who believes that no information can be trusted and therefore the only way to discern truth is go with your animal brain instincts.

No, U.S. Democrats are not communists. For fuck's sake, this is one of the stupidest of right wing falsehoods, and that is a high bar of stupidity!

No matter how offended you may be, you can not deny the police were indoctrinated long before Trump.

I'm not offended by willful ignorance. It's just stupid, and it's the kind of stupid that has consequences.

There are better ways to discern truth than conveniently waving off information as unreliable so you can continue just going with what you already believe. I encourage you to find them and learn them and use them.

And of course corrupt, bigoted police culture existed before Trump. Can you show where anyone has said that corrupt, bigoted police culture did not exist before Trump? Did you just pull that out of your ass because it's easier to attack than the things we are actually saying?

So maybe it's a point of nuance, although it doesn't seem that complicated to me, Trump's over the top narcissism, dog whistling, and utter lack of conscience simply unleashed, amplified, and gave authoritative permission to the previously existing though somewhat suppressed worst tendencies of law enforcement as well as those of civilians given to bigotry and tribalism.

 

[RVonse]

But who is it that votes for exactly this kind of government? Its you and the liberals! Take the last POTUS election for example, I'm just betting you voted for Biden and Harris who are in love with the CCP

Any evidence at all that Biden and Harris are "in love with the CCP"? Or do you just have right wing memes to back up your points?

Look at everything the Democrats stand for. They want free and unfettered unfair global trade with China. And they want everyone to lose basic liberty with the shutdown of business and personal mask wearing like they do in China.

Do I think not wearing a mask is smart? No. But I do not think the way the liberals prefer our government to clamp down on individual liberty is worth it. And that is what the Democrats stand for.

 

[RVonse]

There are better ways to discern truth than conveniently waving off information as unreliable so you can continue just going with what you already believe.

You mean like Bidens 3 strikes you are out law and Harris's deeds as attorney general? Those kind of unreliable facts of history I am going on?

 

[Angry Floof]

But who is it that votes for exactly this kind of government? Its you and the liberals! Take the last POTUS election for example, I'm just betting you voted for Biden and Harris who are in love with the CCP

Any evidence at all that Biden and Harris are "in love with the CCP"? Or do you just have right wing memes to back up your points?

Look at everything the Democrats stand for. They want free and unfettered unfair global trade with China. And they want everyone to lose basic liberty with the shutdown of business and personal mask wearing like they do in China.

Do I think not wearing a mask is smart? No. But I do not think the way the liberals prefer our government to clamp down on individual liberty is worth it. And that is what the Democrats stand for.

All of that is so distorted and misrepresented as to be useless. You might as well listen to right wing media if that bullshit seems true to you.

Oh, wait... you already do that. Well, then, of course you would have no realistic view of either Democrats, the policies they support, or their reasons for doing so.

 

[Angry Floof]

There are better ways to discern truth than conveniently waving off information as unreliable so you can continue just going with what you already believe.

You mean like Bidens 3 strikes you are out law and Harris's deeds as attorney general? Those kind of unreliable facts of history I am going on?

And? So what? They've both said and done a lot of things I don't agree with, but 100% of those things I don't agree with are distorted and twisted and outright lied about by right wing authoritarian morons on a daily basis, so how would you know what's actually true about past actions or stances of Biden or Harris?

I'm not a right wing authoritarian follower, so I do not hold that black and white, good vs. evil, absolutist view of candidates that you do. I don't need to even like a particular candidate in order to vote for them. They just have to support policies and principles that most closely reflect my own. No candidate will ever be 100% perfect for anyone. It's like riding the subway, you take the stop that is closest to where you're going.

I didn't vote for either Biden or Harris in the primaries, but their not being my closer-to-ideal candidate doesn't make them evil enemies. Again, I'm not a right wing authoritarian follower, so I'm not bound to that stupid and unhelpful black and white framework.

 

[Elixir]

No, U.S. Democrats are not communists.

It is undeniable that they support the CCP.

Bullshit. I deny it.
You are wrong (being charitable and not calling it a lie)
QED

Show me PROOF that "they support the CCP". Not one or two of them - ALL of them since syntactically THAT is what you have asserted.

 

[Angry Floof]

No, U.S. Democrats are not communists.

It is undeniable that they support the CCP.

Bullshit. I deny it.
You are wrong (being charitable and not calling it a lie)
QED

Show me PROOF that "they support the CCP". Not one or two of them - ALL of them since syntactically THAT is what you have asserted.

Once you've swallowed the trumpity doctrine of "it's too hard to tell what's true or false in media, so the only option is to go with your gut," (which, of course, is guided by whatever authoritative ideological identity mouthpieces have hijacked your animal brain prejudices), anything, any belief at all, no matter how magical or false or ignorant, is truuuuuuuuuuue!


Must be such a relief! Developing a conscience is hard.

 

[Elixir]

Bullshit. I deny it.
You are wrong (being charitable and not calling it a lie)
QED

Show me PROOF that "they support the CCP". Not one or two of them - ALL of them since syntactically THAT is what you have asserted.

Once you've swallowed the trumpity doctrine of "it's too hard to tell what's true or false in media, so the only option is to go with your gut," (which, of course, is guided by whatever authoritative ideological identity mouthpieces have hijacked your animal brain prejudices), anything, any belief at all, no matter how magical or false or ignorant, is truuuuuuuuuuue!


Must be such a relief! Developing a conscience is hard.

The killer for me is the blithe use of vacuous declarations and calling them "undeniable".
I mean... free speech is free, but worth less than its cost in many cases.

 

[ZiprHead]

There are better ways to discern truth than conveniently waving off information as unreliable so you can continue just going with what you already believe.

You mean like Bidens 3 strikes you are out law and Harris's deeds as attorney general? Those kind of unreliable facts of history I am going on?

First of all, it wasn't Biden's law. It was actually introduced by a Texas Republican and had huge support on both sides of the aisle, including the Congressional Black Caucus.

 

[ZiprHead]

And of course, it's Portland.

A bunch of radicals "protesting" against Thanksgiving have vandalized businesses.

Group breaks windows, tags SE Portland businesses with graffiti

I wonder if pro-Antifa Multnomah County DA will actually prosecute the three who were arrested for this.

 

[Angry Floof]

And of course, it's Portland.

A bunch of radicals "protesting" against Thanksgiving have vandalized businesses.

Group breaks windows, tags SE Portland businesses with graffiti

I wonder if pro-Antifa Multnomah County DA will actually prosecute the three who were arrested for this.

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And when you just don't have the conscience or humanity to reevaluate your inhumane world view, you just dehumanize and demonize the poor and marginalized even harder!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

There are better ways to discern truth than conveniently waving off information as unreliable so you can continue just going with what you already believe.

You mean like Bidens 3 strikes you are out law and Harris's deeds as attorney general? Those kind of unreliable facts of history I am going on?

First of all, it wasn't Biden's law. It was actually introduced by a Texas Republican and had huge support on both sides of the aisle, including the Congressional Black Caucus.

The misremembrance of that law is incredible. It had widespread Republican support and the GOP want to drop this on Biden as if he came up with an idea to incarerate all black people. It certainly seemed like it made a little sense at the time, and thankfully, like science, when data and experience tells us it didn't work or is wrong, we can actually move forward, recognize it, and try to fix it.

 

[RVonse]

No, U.S. Democrats are not communists.

It is undeniable that they support the CCP.

Bullshit. I deny it.
You are wrong (being charitable and not calling it a lie)
QED

Show me PROOF that "they support the CCP". Not one or two of them - ALL of them since syntactically THAT is what you have asserted.

There is plenty of proof to be found starting with the Clinton Administration and the introduction of China into the WTO. But rather than googling and pasting all that history just consider this. The trade agreements with China and the slide of American middle class decline began simultaneously together and was no accident. It took both agency and direction of the establishment to make that happen. Both Biden and Obama clearly wanted further TPP agreements with the CCP which became a primary platform for Trump. I can not say that Trumps tariffs were successful or not at this point but they were a clear indication of where he stood. And it is also clear that Biden is and always has been the establishment and will clearly take the tariffs down as soon as he begins his term.

There are tin foilers in the Trump camp who believe China interfered in the last election for Biden. I'm not willing to go that far with that statement. But if you only look at the Global Times (Chinese publication edited by the CCP) there are numerous articles admitting that the CCP clearly wanted Biden.