Are you suggesting that the general climate of the American academy cannot be appraised without a census of every university?
I am suggesting that you have not presented a case that is based on any number greater than 1 university, and you only just did that one in this post (Princeton (incidentally, my father graduated from Princeton)). Until this mention of Princeton, it was just a claim without any supporting information of any kind. Just your screed.
So yes, I am suggesting that you cannot claim to convey the general climate of American universities with a vague rant.
The number of left-leaning academics to right-leaning academics across academia is about 12:1.
Citation? It might be true, but it might be something you just made up. Who knows?
CRT is, of course, a theory from the radical left.
Certainly radical at the time; any discussion of racial equality in the 70s was radical left wing. I went to a bussing school when I was in high school, so it was kind of a topic for us. So _radical_, so _lefty_ to think that those black kids could have a decent edcation. Very radical left.
I've got a question for you: do you think Princeton is in the grip of CRT? (If you are unfamiliar with Eisgruber's open letter and its background, please take a minute to read up about it). Because if you regard Princeton as not qualifying as in the grip of CRT, we can probably end the discussion, because nothing would qualify.
“In the grip”?
You mean, like, forced and coerced? Or maybe brainwashed and fugued?
“Of CRT”?
You mean, like,
Critical race theory examines social, cultural and legal issues as they relate to race and racism
So, do I think Princeton is being forced or brainwashed to do something about racism?
No. It looks pretty voluntary, and it looks pretty thoughtful. You told me to go read a letter. It looks like a letter that discusses an issue and claims it will take steps to discuss some more.
Is that “in the grip”?
Bear in mind, I can’t figure out what objection you have to the idea that America has racism, and has had for some time now. But to add on his claim that there’s some “in the grip” of this idea... weird. Are you “in the grip” of the idea that it’s autumn in Australia?
Let’s count how many are “in the grip,” and to do that we’ll move on to how you detected “the grip” in the first place, and then we can count them.
Sometimes people read about things they haven't personally experienced. You should try it.
And sometimes they post self-righteous screeds about it, like, every day.
I’m fine with just reading and having discussions. I’ll take a pass on the outrage.
But the question was, when you read about this thing that yu have not personally experienced, WHAT, exactly, caused you to label it “pervasive.” I asked here for some definitions of what it means to be “in the grip,” and you failed to answer. Do you have an answer? What fueled your outrage about this that caused you to use words like “hegemony,” “pervasive,” “in the grip” - those are pretty strong words, you must have seen a LOT of data to get so riled up.
- How do you know they do it without question? All 5,300 of them?
Huh? Why would my claim that CRT is hegemonic at American universities (a general claim about its pervasiveness) lead you to believe it needs to be documented in "all 5,300" for my claim to be true.
It was a question. How many, is it all 5,300? Or some smallerr number, like 1?
If you are claiming it is hegemonic, you are implying a hefty force of power or mandate. So - what’s the deal, what kind of weight lies behind it?
Is it all of them? Half? A tenth? One university?
Ironically of course, my claim that CRT is hegemonic at American universities is nowhere near a bold a claim as CRT's claims that racism is always and everywhere present, we need only to talk about how it manifested in a particular situation.
You’re claiming it’s dominant. Pervasive. You used words like suffocating, “in the grip.”.
It should be EASY to show evidence that it is overbearing at a large majority of universities if they are truly pervasively besieged.
But you showed nothing. And finally in this post, you refer to one university talking about having meetings to discuss it.
- How many advertise their acceptance of CRT? How have you determined this number?
- How many accuse themselves of structural and ongoing racism (even when true?). Where is tthis number catalogued?
- How many require DEI statements from Chemistry and Physics neww hires? (How many have new hires?)
- How do you know those are pre-screened? At all 5300 colleges?
- How have you measured that opposing CRT is, across 5,300 colleges, overwhelmingly a career-limiting move?
- How did you determine that “you would say: suffocating”?
- (What if it is true thaat racism exists and it can be overcome?)
This would all be off topic to my original claim:
Every one of these is a quote from your post. So... if it’s off topic, then that’s on you.
that the left denies the pervasiveness of CRT and intersectional theories at American universities.
First you say it’s “pervasive” without a shred of support.
Now you say “the left denies the perrvasiveness” without a shred of support.
It could be that BOTH are just fabrications, for all you’ve shown.
What a lovely straw man. Have I stopped beating my wife?
However, if you are actually interested in the particular incidents that inspired my comments, I may start a general CRT/intersectional thread, though I try to start threads about specific events and instances.
... of white grievance
It seems like you fabricated a rant from the other side of the world to feed an additction to white outrage porn.
It is so obviously silly to think that all the universities in Utah and Wyoming and Texas and Mississippi (& etc) are all “suffocating” under this “hegemony” that is “besieging” them “pervasively.”
It's silly to think I made the claim that every single university is in the grip of CRT.
“Pervasive”
“Suffocating”
“Hegemony”
“Couldn’t survive unscathed”
“Major force”
Don’t pretend you have not implied it is at most places, and so thick that people cannot enjoy their freedoms because of it.
If it weren’t so hateful, it would be comical that you feel the outrage for 10,000 miles away. So intent on posting about inequality, but ONLY if you feel it is white people getting the short end of the stick.
I'm sorry: what have I said that is "hateful"?
This, as the 10,000th post denying racism exists - which perpetuates it. I find racism hateful.
Can’t wait for your next outrage porn post. What’s next, a white woman who can’t follow a custody agreement is put upon because she won’t stop waving a racist flag in her biracial daughter’s face?
Why do you regard making a claim about leftist denial of CRT hegemony at American universities as 'outrage porn'?
Because the poor white man is “Suffocating!” “Pervasively!” In the “grip!” Of “hegemony!”
So much outrage.