Merged So what's next for Trump?

[lpetrich]

Trump shuts down his blog after less than a month - CNN
"Those who attempt to visit the page are now greeted with a web form asking for their contact information to receive updates through email or text message."

That was quick.

No word on what might be next.

 

[Patooka]

 

[ideologyhunter]

Etch a Sketch requires patience and coordination. There are basic hand-eye and eye-foot skills in life, like picking up water bottles and walking down ramps. I could see Trump printing something in pencil and using Silly Putty for the transfer.

 

[ZiprHead]

It also requires followers who can read.

Minamar

 

[ZiprHead]

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/4lOS_ij-UiE[/YOUTUBE]

 

[JohnG]

Some part of me WANTS to believe that Trump knows, deep down, that this is a fantasy, and he's just so totally in the grip of his narcissistic personality disorder that he literally can't admit he could lose a fair election.

Again, I'll direct you to the last episode of the first season of the Netflix series "Dirty Money." The episode is called "Confidence Man," and in it, a couple guys who helped to develop "The Apprentice" for NBC speak about how they basically created a narrative of Trump the successful businessman as a tongue in cheek joke, but expressed dismay over how he bought into that narrative.

They walked into the run down, sad offices of the Trump organization when the show was being developed, and as a gag portrayed him as somehow not just still relevant, but the king of New York real estate. Like all reality television, it was absurd and nothing like reality, but Trump bought it so completely that by the end of the run of the show, he genuinely believed that he was the head of this glamorous company that stood astride not just New York, but the world. They wrote a character for him to play in the show, and by the end of it he thought he really was that guy.

I don't think he knows.

Kind of a derail, but I just wanted to inject here, I have a theory that isn’t discussed much these days that we severely underestimate the negative impact of television on society.

The old trope of “the idiot box” was never wrong

 

[ideologyhunter]

Right wing TV is a fright, but the loony birds I hear going on about their conspiracies in the locker room, etc., are usually quoting psychotic social media posts. They've seen some photo-shopped image of ominous lib'rul trucks stuffed full of ballots for Joe, or they've read how Steve Gates owns a copyright on the covid variants and started the disease to do in Donald. All manner of cuckoo bird bullshit is out there. One third of America doesn't know how to detect propaganda, question sources, or discover reality.

 

[Elixir]

Kind of a derail, but I just wanted to inject here, I have a theory that isn’t discussed much these days that we severely underestimate the negative impact of television on society.

I believe that's true. But IMHO it pales in comparison to the devastation wrought by the internet, which was supposed to put the accumulated wisdom of mankind at everyone's fingertips. In fact, it has evolved into a fetid wasteland where confirmation of every sort of wackadoodle idiocy is just a click away, as ideologyhunter describes above..

 

[fromderinside]

We are the over-the-fence culture. Liars with Barbeque, beer and fence becomes social media internet. Trump types become the elite.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

One third of America doesn't know how to detect propaganda, question sources, or discover reality.

Disagree--it's a lot more than one third. It's just one third has fallen for this strain of propaganda. That doesn't mean that everyone else is immune. Since America divides roughly 50:50, half the population wouldn't have been appreciably vulnerable to the QOP propaganda, thus a better estimate is 2/3 are vulnerable.

 

[Ford]

Some part of me WANTS to believe that Trump knows, deep down, that this is a fantasy, and he's just so totally in the grip of his narcissistic personality disorder that he literally can't admit he could lose a fair election.

Again, I'll direct you to the last episode of the first season of the Netflix series "Dirty Money." The episode is called "Confidence Man," and in it, a couple guys who helped to develop "The Apprentice" for NBC speak about how they basically created a narrative of Trump the successful businessman as a tongue in cheek joke, but expressed dismay over how he bought into that narrative.

They walked into the run down, sad offices of the Trump organization when the show was being developed, and as a gag portrayed him as somehow not just still relevant, but the king of New York real estate. Like all reality television, it was absurd and nothing like reality, but Trump bought it so completely that by the end of the run of the show, he genuinely believed that he was the head of this glamorous company that stood astride not just New York, but the world. They wrote a character for him to play in the show, and by the end of it he thought he really was that guy.

I don't think he knows.

Kind of a derail, but I just wanted to inject here, I have a theory that isn’t discussed much these days that we severely underestimate the negative impact of television on society.

The old trope of “the idiot box” was never wrong

In the case of Trump, the problem is that he bought into the fake narrative they built for him, AND a significant portion of the audience did, too. "Reality" television is problematic because it is sold as reality, and uncritical viewers buy into it being real. It's not. Not even close. I knew someone who was a cast member on The Apprentice, and it was most definitely not "reality." The "prize" on the show was a job with the Trump organization, but neither she nor most of the other cast members were there to land that job. She was in it to get exposure for her marketing/PR career, and being on network television for several weeks was the payoff. There was never any illusion for the cast members, and I use that term deliberately, because they were not "contestants."

Trump seems to have forgotten that he too was a cast member. His followers - bless their hearts - think all that shit was real. They bought into the fake narrative of Trump as this guy who was so successful that up and coming young executives would compete for a job with his company. Then when the show was re-tooled as the "Celebrity" Apprentice, that those people were really so impressed by Trump that they wanted to have some of his "magic" wear off on them. Again, no. The ones I met had hit a snag in their careers and needed the exposure of a network television show to help promote their upcoming project or prop up their brand. It was never about Trump's "business acumen."

What Trump's followers don't seem to grasp is that - as anyone in show business will tell you - It's a show. Those people are not trapped on a deserted island trying to "survive." You're not seeing the real lives of those "housewives." These are not reality...they're semi-scripted or carefully edited drama. Trump's supporters don't get this simple fact.

(p.s. I will vouch for one cooking competition show. My son in law's chef won "Chopped" on Food Network, and that show is legit)

 

[zorq]

(p.s. I will vouch for one cooking competition show. My son in law's chef won "Chopped" on Food Network, and that show is legit)

Neat! My childhood friend won on "Chopped Sweets" last year. He said it was legit too.

I haven't seen that "Dirty Money" episode, but I'm skeptical that it is correctly representing Trump's arc from mediocre entrepreneur to Self-aggrandizing egotist thanks to this TV show. Trump's biographer and ghost writer both agree that he's always be one to exaggerate his accomplishments. Just ask Trump's public relations managers, "John Miller," "Carolin Gallego," and "John Barron."

 

[Swammerdami]

One third of America doesn't know how to detect propaganda, question sources, or discover reality.

Disagree--it's a lot more than one third. It's just one third has fallen for this strain of propaganda. That doesn't mean that everyone else is immune. Since America divides roughly 50:50, half the population wouldn't have been appreciably vulnerable to the QOP propaganda, thus a better estimate is 2/3 are vulnerable.

Your arithmetic assumes that Biden voters and Trump voters have the same susceptibility to nonsensical propaganda. This is contradicted by several arguments.

Those who claim that MSNBC and Michael Moore are equivalent to FoxNews and Rush Limbaugh do not understand the difference between exaggeration and lies. Frankly, I wonder if they understand the difference between good and evil.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

One third of America doesn't know how to detect propaganda, question sources, or discover reality.

Disagree--it's a lot more than one third. It's just one third has fallen for this strain of propaganda. That doesn't mean that everyone else is immune. Since America divides roughly 50:50, half the population wouldn't have been appreciably vulnerable to the QOP propaganda, thus a better estimate is 2/3 are vulnerable.

4 in 5 likely say they are good at detecting it, 1 in 3 are likely good at detecting it.

My rule is 'If a claim elicits a strong response', whether humor, anger, etc..., double check it.

 

[ZiprHead]

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump’s blog couldn’t make it to 3 Scaramucci’s. Too much work. He is gone. FOREVER</p>— Anthony Scaramucci (@Scaramucci) <a href="https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1400123990841073669?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

You've got to appreciate a guy with a sense of humor, even if he's a scumbag.

And this one...

E. Jean Carroll
@ejeancarroll
Didn't last as long as DNA on a dress.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Location, location, location.

Well TRUMP, you could always remove your name from these buildings, TRUMP. Perhaps people wouldn't be so ashamed of living in your buildings, refuse to even look at condos though they be at bargain prices... TRUMP.

 

[JohnG]

Kind of a derail, but I just wanted to inject here, I have a theory that isn’t discussed much these days that we severely underestimate the negative impact of television on society.

The old trope of “the idiot box” was never wrong

In the case of Trump, the problem is that he bought into the fake narrative they built for him, AND a significant portion of the audience did, too. "Reality" television is problematic because it is sold as reality, and uncritical viewers buy into it being real. It's not. Not even close. I knew someone who was a cast member on The Apprentice, and it was most definitely not "reality." The "prize" on the show was a job with the Trump organization, but neither she nor most of the other cast members were there to land that job. She was in it to get exposure for her marketing/PR career, and being on network television for several weeks was the payoff. There was never any illusion for the cast members, and I use that term deliberately, because they were not "contestants."

Trump seems to have forgotten that he too was a cast member. His followers - bless their hearts - think all that shit was real. They bought into the fake narrative of Trump as this guy who was so successful that up and coming young executives would compete for a job with his company. Then when the show was re-tooled as the "Celebrity" Apprentice, that those people were really so impressed by Trump that they wanted to have some of his "magic" wear off on them. Again, no. The ones I met had hit a snag in their careers and needed the exposure of a network television show to help promote their upcoming project or prop up their brand. It was never about Trump's "business acumen."

What Trump's followers don't seem to grasp is that - as anyone in show business will tell you - It's a show. Those people are not trapped on a deserted island trying to "survive." You're not seeing the real lives of those "housewives." These are not reality...they're semi-scripted or carefully edited drama. Trump's supporters don't get this simple fact.

(p.s. I will vouch for one cooking competition show. My son in law's chef won "Chopped" on Food Network, and that show is legit)

I think it goes much deeper than that. Even the oldest generations now have been brought up on the idea that reality follows a story arc, with good guys and bad guys, all will work out in the end, and nothing really ever goes wrong, and if it does, someone will always be there to save the day.

When there is any kind of chaos, people just come unglued

 

[Patooka]

So what's next for Trump?

Apparently, what's next for Trump is to be reported by CNN, FOX News, NBC, MSNBC, ABC (the American one), ABC (the Australian one), BBC, DW, OAN, NewsMax, The Blaze, The Daily Caller, The Daily Wire, Breitbart, Huffington Post, Vox, Vice, The New York Times, The New York Post, WSJ, Washington Post, The Guardian, Sky News, Nine Media, Al Jazeera, Al Jazeera International, The Epoch Times (yes even them), Freemantle Media, Independent Australia, Blacktown Community Radio and fucking smoke signals on how he is being "silenced" by Facebook. Apparently, his message isn't coming across and he is being censured. The terrorists still being held at Gitmo aren't even buying into that bullshit.

 

[fromderinside]

Yes. Notable increase in teasers about Trump from those news sources. Apparently they need to be make money.

 

[Swammerdami]

So what's next for Trump?

Apparently, what's next for Trump is to be reported by CNN, FOX News, NBC, MSNBC, ABC (the American one), ABC (the Australian one), BBC, DW, OAN, NewsMax, The Blaze, The Daily Caller, The Daily Wire, Breitbart, Huffington Post, Vox, Vice, The New York Times, The New York Post, WSJ, Washington Post, The Guardian, Sky News, Nine Media, Al Jazeera, Al Jazeera International, The Epoch Times (yes even them), Freemantle Media, Independent Australia, Blacktown Community Radio and fucking smoke signals on how he is being "silenced" by Facebook. Apparently, his message isn't coming across and he is being censured. The terrorists still being held at Gitmo aren't even buying into that bullshit.

You forgot one of his favorites: Wasn't Trump interviewed by Alex Jones on Infowars recently?