DrZoidberg
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Isn't preserving confederate monuments teaching people about the history of slavery?
Isn't preserving confederate monuments teaching people about the history of slavery?
My understanding is that most of those monuments were originally built after the civil war.
My understanding is that most of those monuments were originally built after the civil war.
Yes. For racist reasons. My understanding is that they were mostly built in the 1930'ies and crowdsourced through the KKK.
In most of Europe there was the Holocaust remembrance day yesterday. It's always good to remind ourselves that the Nazis and Germans aren't uniquely evil. This kind of evil can emerge anywhere. Normal people can do monstrous things given the right (or wrong) circumstances. These kinds of monuments remind us of that.
If we hide the dirt of our ancestors we risk repeating their mistakes.
Isn't preserving confederate monuments teaching people about the history of slavery?
My understanding is that most of those monuments were originally built after the civil war.
Reaping the benefits of CRT.
‘Nation’s Report Card’ finds falling test scores, even pre-covid
The National Assessment of Educational Progress for decades has been measuring student performance in a variety of academic subjects to chart progress — or lack thereof, and dubbing the data the “Nation’s Report Card.” The results released Thursday, based on a nationally representative sample of children, compared scores of 9- and 13-year-olds to those in the early 1970s and in 2012.
The new report finds scores have fallen for Black and Hispanic students since 2012 and remain flat for White children, widening the racial achievement gap. This year also revealed a gender gap, as nine-year-old boys’ math scores stayed steady while girls’ scores fell compared to 2012.
So apparently telling non-White kids to blame White people for all their problems doesn't make the non-White kids do their homework.
My understanding is that most of those monuments were originally built after the civil war.
Yes. For racist reasons. My understanding is that they were mostly built in the 1930'ies and crowdsourced through the KKK.
In most of Europe there was the Holocaust remembrance day yesterday. It's always good to remind ourselves that the Nazis and Germans aren't uniquely evil. This kind of evil can emerge anywhere. Normal people can do monstrous things given the right (or wrong) circumstances. These kinds of monuments remind us of that.
If we hide the dirt of our ancestors we risk repeating their mistakes.
My understanding is that most of those monuments were originally built after the civil war.
Yes. For racist reasons. My understanding is that they were mostly built in the 1930'ies and crowdsourced through the KKK.
In most of Europe there was the Holocaust remembrance day yesterday. It's always good to remind ourselves that the Nazis and Germans aren't uniquely evil. This kind of evil can emerge anywhere. Normal people can do monstrous things given the right (or wrong) circumstances. These kinds of monuments remind us of that.
If we hide the dirt of our ancestors we risk repeating their mistakes.
Are you saying that in Europe there are statues of Hitler, Goring, Himmler, Eichmann, and etc. are allowed to stand and be revered on public grounds in Europe? Because that is what you want to happen in the USA. The people those racists decided to revere with statues on display on public grounds are exactly analogous to Nazi leaders being revered in the same manner in Europe. It says to everyone who is not racist that "You may have won the war a century and a half ago, but we are winning the battles that matter now."
Are you saying that in Europe there are statues of Hitler, Goring, Himmler, Eichmann, and etc. are allowed to stand and be revered on public grounds in Europe? Because that is what you want to happen in the USA. The people those racists decided to revere with statues on display on public grounds are exactly analogous to Nazi leaders being revered in the same manner in Europe. It says to everyone who is not racist that "You may have won the war a century and a half ago, but we are winning the battles that matter now."
Yes, pretty much. Not exactly those
CRT isn't being taught to kids that age now, much less in 2012. The ignorance on display in the above is astounding.
So what you're saying is that there are statues built in honor of Hitler, Goebbels, Mengele, and so forth all around Europe, and rather than being upset, Europeans go to those statues and learn about history from them? Funny, they must be hiding the Hitler shrines well, as I've been to Europe a few times and never noticed any of them. Or are you suggesting that they should construct some new ones, to be more like America and honor "both sides" at Holocaust memorials? If you present your "build more statues of Nazis around Norway" plan to your city council, do please re-post videos of the proceedings for us to see, I'm sure the reaction will be instructive.In most of Europe there was the Holocaust remembrance day yesterday. It's always good to remind ourselves that the Nazis and Germans aren't uniquely evil. This kind of evil can emerge anywhere. Normal people can do monstrous things given the right (or wrong) circumstances. These kinds of monuments remind us of that.
Reaping the benefits of CRT.
‘Nation’s Report Card’ finds falling test scores, even pre-covid
So apparently telling non-White kids to blame White people for all their problems doesn't make the non-White kids do their homework.
CRT isn't being taught to kids that age now, much less in 2012. The ignorance on display in the above is astounding.
As long as we are going to confuse correlation with causation, I say it is the result of the Trump Presidency. After all, we know that occurred while there is no little evidence that CRT was taught, let alone widely spread, in the schools.Reaping the benefits of CRT.
‘Nation’s Report Card’ finds falling test scores, even pre-covid
So apparently telling non-White kids to blame White people for all their problems doesn't make the non-White kids do their homework.
CRT isn't being taught to kids that age now, much less in 2012. The ignorance on display in the above is astounding.
This was for 2019-2020. 2012 was simply the comparison year.
As long as we are going to confuse correlation with causation, I say it is the result of the Trump Presidency. After all, we know that occurred while there is no little evidence that CRT was taught, let alone widely spread, in the schools.This was for 2019-2020. 2012 was simply the comparison year.
As long as we are going to confuse correlation with causation, I say it is the result of the Trump Presidency. After all, we know that occurred while there is no little evidence that CRT was taught, let alone widely spread, in the schools.This was for 2019-2020. 2012 was simply the comparison year.
Well, okay. If CRT is not being taught there’s no reason to oppose laws keeping it out of schools, right? Just status quo.
Since one of the reasons for these laws is to stifle education, there is a reason to oppose them. Not to mention that pointless laws are a waste of time.As long as we are going to confuse correlation with causation, I say it is the result of the Trump Presidency. After all, we know that occurred while there is no little evidence that CRT was taught, let alone widely spread, in the schools.This was for 2019-2020. 2012 was simply the comparison year.
Well, okay. If CRT is not being taught there’s no reason to oppose laws keeping it out of schools, right? Just status quo.
Ah yes... the "how it's being taught." argument. And how is it being taught?
Maybe I haven't been keeping up, but is there really a movement to not teach slavery at all as part of a History class in the South? My understanding is the objections are mostly based on HOW it is being taught, which is something worthy of discussion.
Reaping the benefits of CRT.
‘Nation’s Report Card’ finds falling test scores, even pre-covid
So apparently telling non-White kids to blame White people for all their problems doesn't make the non-White kids do their homework.
CRT isn't being taught to kids that age now, much less in 2012. The ignorance on display in the above is astounding.
This was for 2019-2020. 2012 was simply the comparison year.