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RVonse said:
The Deep State is unelected, never changing, and completely out of control of the voters.
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Can you name maybe two or three members of this fabled deep state?
I mean other than Trump’s cabal of thieves? Would Harlan Crow qualify? How about Me-Lon Musk? Leo? Sheldon Adelson? Peter Thiel?
Didn’t think so.
Nobody can name them.
They don’t exist.
 
RVonse said:
The Deep State does not hide, in fact it takes pride in making you know it can put the boot down on your neck at any time. Do I think the IRS is hiding behind the sofa?
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This is the slowest Gish Gallop I've ever seen.
 
Elixir said:
RVonse said:
The Deep State is unelected, never changing, and completely out of control of the voters.
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Can you name maybe two or three members of this fabled deep state?
I mean other than Trump’s cabal of thieves? Would Harlan Crow qualify? How about Me-Lon Musk? Leo? Sheldon Adelson? Peter Thiel?
Didn’t think so.
Nobody can name them.
They don’t exist.
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A lot of the people that Trump is nominating to his administration could be considered "deep state". You did not get to vote for them.
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Jimmy Higgins said:
RVonse said:
The Deep State does not hide, in fact it takes pride in making you know it can put the boot down on your neck at any time. Do I think the IRS is hiding behind the sofa?
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This is the slowest Gish Gallop I've ever seen.
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They don’t hide, yet none of these Bozos can name even ONE!
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I can name Peter Strzok for one if you like. But I'm not sure I understand your point. How would I or anyone else know the names of government employees we do not normally engage with? I'm lucky just to know the names of my neighbors who I do see on a semi regular basis.

Does not knowing the names of government employees who affect my life but I do not get to vote for mean they do not exist?

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Ford said:
Elixir said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
RVonse said:
The Deep State does not hide, in fact it takes pride in making you know it can put the boot down on your neck at any time. Do I think the IRS is hiding behind the sofa?
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This is the slowest Gish Gallop I've ever seen.
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They don’t hide, yet none of these Bozos can name even ONE!
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I can name THREE!

George Soros.
George Soros.
And of course, George Soros!

So there!
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Finally looked up this mythical monster. Wikipedia makes him sound really threatening. Makes Trump look like a real piker. He has donated tens of billions to PHILANTHROPIC causes. Forbes magazine, which Trump hates for not exaggerating his wealth, named him "Most Generous Giver" in terms of percentage of wealth in 2020. No wonder the right considers him The Deep State.
Philanthropy - a dirty word in the Republican lexicon.
 
RVonse said:
Elixir said:
RVonse said:
The Deep State is unelected, never changing, and completely out of control of the voters.
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Can you name maybe two or three members of this fabled deep state?
I mean other than Trump’s cabal of thieves? Would Harlan Crow qualify? How about Me-Lon Musk? Leo? Sheldon Adelson? Peter Thiel?
Didn’t think so.
Nobody can name them.
They don’t exist.
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A lot of the people that Trump is nominating to his administration could be considered "deep state". You did not get to vote for them.
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Virtually everyone in the Federal Government is unelected. Virtually everyone in the Federal Government is a career employee that works regardless of the party in power. That isn't a bad thing, it provides stability and competency. Somehow the right wing has convinced many that people that know how to do their job are a threat to them.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Somehow the right wing has convinced many that people that know how to do their job are a threat to them.
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The FACT is that they ARE a threat.
TO DONALD TRUMP
He has four years to burn it all down before his tawdry criminal past catches up to him.
 
Elixir said:
Tigers! said:
To someone like me $10m is an awful lot of money. In fact Biden is very rich comared to me. Trump has more? So what? Both are still very rich compared to me so no false equivalence there.
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So what? So think about it!
What's your "total net worth" @Tigers? (no, I don't want to know, just want you to consider it)
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I'm glad you acknowledgement my networth is not of your business. But I look back to 2010 and realise that I am indeed fortunate not to be in that position still.
Elixir said:
If it's more than $10k, or the price of a moderate used car, you are proportionally closer to Biden in wealth than Biden is to Trump.
Biden would be justified considering himself "poor" and seeing Trump as being "rich" just as you see Biden being rich - Trump is richer than he can conceive of, just as Biden is richer than you can conceive of.
Trust me as someone who is not poor -
A MILLION IS MUCH MUCH MUCH SMALLER THAN A BILLION - THEY'RE NOT THE SAME THING.
That's true even if you can't tell them apart from where you stand.
It's the difference between a single penny and ten dollars. Significant. I'm pretty sure even a poor person like yourself can tell the difference between a penny and ten bucks.
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I do not know why you are fixatured on money and proportions.
The whole idea that Poli and I are saying is that certain people seem to get favorable treatment that the rest of us great unwashed will never get. Equality before the law? Bah. And Australia is getting that way too sadly.

People are getting pardons because of their proxmity to money or certain people.
Hunter got a pardon despite his father (who is the President, just as a reminder) saying he would not get one. How does that look? You or I will never be in that blessed position.
Biden's word cannot be trusted. He is fickle and feckless.

You and others keep saying that Trump cannot be trusted to keep his word (which is very true to forestall crys that I support Trump) yet Biden has done precisely the same thing Trump has and will do and yet somehow that is ok to you?

How can it be ok to behave as your opponents do when you decry such behaivour? You have shown youself to be no different in kind if not degree.
(Biden probably should never have said publically that he would not pardon his son.)

There is a name for such behaivour - Hypocrisy

(And people wonder why pollies are held is such low esteem)
 
Tigers! said:
But I look back to 2010 and realise that I am indeed fortunate not to be in that position still.
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Ditto!
Tigers! said:
I do not know why you are fixatured on money and proportions.
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I’m not. My point has to do with the previous “just another rich guy buying off justice” (iirc) comment. Part of my objection to that is that it reflects obliviousness to the imbalance of power created by multiple orders of magnitude differentials in wealth. Which exists whether we’re talking the difference between dollars and thousands of dollars, or millions vs billions.
The other part is that pardoning your son is just as easy if you’re a total pauper as if you’re George Soros - as long as you’re President.
 
Elixir said:
Tigers! said:
But I look back to 2010 and realise that I am indeed fortunate not to be in that position still.
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Ditto!
Tigers! said:
I do not know why you are fixatured on money and proportions.
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I’m not. My point has to do with the previous “just another rich guy buying off justice” (iirc) comment. Part of my objection to that is that it reflects obliviousness to the imbalance of power created by multiple orders of magnitude differentials in wealth. Which exists whether we’re talking the difference between dollars and thousands of dollars, or millions vs billions.
The other part is that pardoning your son is just as easy if you’re a total pauper as if you’re George Soros - as long as you’re President.
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Looks like you accept the charge that Biden is a hypocrite?
 
RVonse said:
Loren Pechtel said:
Why should the 1/6ers be pardoned?
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Because there is a lot of suspicion that the deep state was heavily involved with Jan 6. I posted a video earlier and Joe Rogan who explains it much better and detail than I can. You and others can dismiss Joe Rogan if you want, but there are a lot of people who agree with this sentiment right now.

Most of the rank and file of those agencies are probably honest but the people at the top are corrupt.
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Well, if Joe Rogan said it... :rolleyes:
 
RVonse said:
Loren Pechtel said:
Why should the 1/6ers be pardoned?
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Because there is a lot of suspicion that the deep state was heavily involved with Jan 6. I posted a video earlier and Joe Rogan who explains it much better and detail than I can. You and others can dismiss Joe Rogan if you want, but there are a lot of people who agree with this sentiment right now.

Most of the rank and file of those agencies are probably honest but the people at the top are corrupt.
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What in the world are you talking about? Are you trying to say that the meanie deep state people were the protesters? Some kind of false flag operation?
 
RVonse said:
Loren Pechtel said:
RVonse said:
In theory, an innocent person should not be afraid of the law since they should have nothing to hide. But in practice, everyone should be afraid of law and scrutiny since we are all breaking some kind of law (there are so many of them now) if the government wants to pursue ruining someone.

But that effect worked more in Biden's favor than Trump's because he was more experienced controlling the deep state.
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And you're completely missing the point.

Yes, the justice system isn't perfect. The problem is that The Felon intends to weaponize it.
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Both sides weaponize it. You don't think the law has been weaponized against Trump? Then you are not paying attention to 34 felonies for the same crime. Thankfully the voters recognized this even though you haven't.
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If you do the same crime 34 times should you not be convicted for 34 crimes?
 
Tigers! said:
Elixir said:
Tigers! said:
But I look back to 2010 and realise that I am indeed fortunate not to be in that position still.
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Ditto!
Tigers! said:
I do not know why you are fixatured on money and proportions.
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I’m not. My point has to do with the previous “just another rich guy buying off justice” (iirc) comment. Part of my objection to that is that it reflects obliviousness to the imbalance of power created by multiple orders of magnitude differentials in wealth. Which exists whether we’re talking the difference between dollars and thousands of dollars, or millions vs billions.
The other part is that pardoning your son is just as easy if you’re a total pauper as if you’re George Soros - as long as you’re President.
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Looks like you accept the charge that Biden is a hypocrite?
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Not really. He knows he compromised himself, but that was better than watching his kid's entire life being destroyed when he was able to prevent that from happening. WWJD? What would YOU do?
You accept the fact that he was ensuring some degree of welfare for his son by countering an imbalance of power, of course...
What you seem not to accept is that his son in the crosshairs of a sociopath about to inherit power and intends to use it as unlimited with the permission of the Supreme Court.
 
Elixir said:
Tigers! said:
Elixir said:
Tigers! said:
But I look back to 2010 and realise that I am indeed fortunate not to be in that position still.
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Ditto!
Tigers! said:
I do not know why you are fixatured on money and proportions.
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I’m not. My point has to do with the previous “just another rich guy buying off justice” (iirc) comment. Part of my objection to that is that it reflects obliviousness to the imbalance of power created by multiple orders of magnitude differentials in wealth. Which exists whether we’re talking the difference between dollars and thousands of dollars, or millions vs billions.
The other part is that pardoning your son is just as easy if you’re a total pauper as if you’re George Soros - as long as you’re President.
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Looks like you accept the charge that Biden is a hypocrite?
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Not really. He knows he compromised himself, but that was better than watching his kid's entire life being destroyed when he was able to prevent that from happening. WWJD? What would YOU do?
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Hunter broke the law(s) it seems. There are consequences for that. Hunter is a responsible moral agent. He has put his father in a most invidous position.
Yet the President broke his public word. Why should anyone believe him after this? Granted he will be gone shortly. But the decision will live on.
Elixir said:
You accept the fact that he was ensuring some degree of welfare for his son by countering an imbalance of power, of course...
What you seem not to accept is that his son in the crosshairs of a sociopath about to inherit power and intends to use it as unlimited with the permission of the Supreme Court.
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I accept he is concerned about his son. But he is not J. Biden, citizen of the USA. He is J. Biden President of the USA. His actions matter.
 
RVonse said:
If Trump actually makes good on some of his promises you will see first hand some of the issues and fixes regarding this so called "deep state" you see as a handwaving fiction.
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Also RVonse;
RVonse said:
A lot of the people that Trump is nominating to his administration could be considered "deep state". You did not get to vote for them.
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Consistency isn't really a priority for MAGA cultists is it?
 
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