Toni
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Form their own party? That would only be practical in a proportional-representation system. With first-past-the-post and single-member districts, the most practical route is to work within one of the existing parties. Brand New Congress tried all three options in 2018: 28 Democrats, 1 Republican, and 1 Independent. For 2020, BNC has 33 Democrats and only Democrats.Oh I don’t agree! I think that the socialist democrats are trying to pull the rest of the democrats further left. Or left. Those terrible leftist democrats are somewhat to the right of the Republican Party of the70’s—except for on social issues—for the most part.
Whether they notice or care that they are actually screwing over the Democratic Party because they lack the guts toform their own party is a different question.
In proportional representation, each party gets to send members to a legislature in proportion to how many votes it got. This allows for more than two parties, and many legislatures with PR have more than two parties in them. In fact, if the US had proportional representation, I suspect that both major parties would split in several parties.
Bernie Sanders has the right idea on a lot of issues, but he does not seem to have been very effective in Congress. AOC seems to have done better.I don’t have a lot of respect for Bernie. I see promise in AOC and I like and admire her ability to get her message out there and to get people to pay attention. I think she’ll do much better than Bernie.
Eh, there's the Green Party which is pretty moribund on many fronts. Given the Greenies I know IRL, it simply can't require that much energy or organizational skills to form a party. Sorry: Lots of snark. I've done my share of voting 3rd party though. I'd respect Sanders a lot more if he either worked within the Democratic Party to pull them left or formed his own party, rather than dipping a toe in when it serves him. I think that's a huge character flaw with Bernie: everything is only valuable as it serves him.
Sanders is hardly alone in having the right idea on a lot or most issues--and I think you are right: he hasn't been very effective in Congress. He's much more effective as a gadfly and (unintentional) disrupter. AOC has a lot more promise. She does have youth and enthusiasm on her side but also charm and I think not only the ability but also the desire to work with others and to learn from others as well as teach. Bernie just wants to pontificate. Blech. And I'm on board with much of what he says. What good is the best machine in the world if your racecar driver has two left feet and can't take a curve?