Baraboo High School in Wisconsin: sieg heil!

[Underseer]

This picture has been making the rounds on Twitter, now we have a thread discussing this high school in detail:

https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1061863141720637440

The above photo was a prom photo taken by a parent. Note the kid near the center of the first row flashing the White Power hand gesture. The thread itself suggests that the school leadership sees no reason to correct students expressing white supremacist views, and if you complain to them about students expressing white supremacist views or racist abuse, the "responsible adults" will change the topic to discussing how much they don't like people who complain about racism.

But don't call any of these people racist. That would be mean and unfair and would trigger all the conservatives and libertarians at this forum.

You stupid libtards just randomly accuse people of racism for no good reason, probably because you don't want to have any real substantive discussions about anything. I mean, look at that photograph above. Does anything about the above photo look racist to you? Only a stupid libtard would look at that and think there's something racist about that, and they think that because they're constantly making unfair accusations of racism.

For anyone not from the Midwest who is confused about this happening in a blue state, let me explain some demographics. Once you get outside the big cities, it's all sister-fucking cross-burners as far as the eye can reach. Horizon to horizon. Illinois is the same way.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, the good thing is that they can all be identified, so if any university accepts one of these people as a student, it can be turned into a PR disaster. This means that the careers of many white supremicists can be derailed before they start and keep them out of potential positions of power and authority.

They really should have worn some kind of sheet.

 

[J842P]

Students should be able to express white-supremacist views, especially at a prom picture.

 

[Elixir]

Students should be able to express white-supremacist views, especially at a prom picture.

Yeah, but the sheets are a good idea.

 

[J842P]

Students should be able to express white-supremacist views, especially at a prom picture.

Yeah, but the sheets are a good idea.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.

 

[Elixir]

Students should be able to express white-supremacist views, especially at a prom picture.

Yeah, but the sheets are a good idea.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.

https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...sin-sieg-heil!&p=615210&viewfull=1#post615210

 

[Underseer]

Students should be able to express white-supremacist views, especially at a prom picture.

Of course. The white students' sense of entitlement is more important than not making every Jew in the area feel like they are about to be marched off into concentration camps.

Anyway, there's an investigation now:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-prom-nazi-salute_us_5be98c8be4b0769d24cfebcd

After years of telling students who complained about the white supremacist stuff to fuck off, the school is not lying to the media and saying that they have always been against hate speech.

 

[ZiprHead]

Aren't they just sweet young scamps.

 

[RavenSky]

After years of telling students who complained about the white supremacist stuff to fuck off, the school is not lying to the media and saying that they have always been against hate speech.

This is the part that has my eyes rolling... the expressions of shock and dismay from the school officials and townspeople. You don't get an entire school class to pose for a picture like that unless the infestation is wide-spread in that neighborhood.

 

[laughing dog]

Students should be able to express white-supremacist views, especially at a prom picture.

How is that relevant to the OP issue that these views are an indictment of the education in that school or school system?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I think it's the white male culture that is the problem.

 

[Trausti]

We probably need a word to express how distance from a historical event makes reference/display of that historical event more trivial. For this younger generation, Nazis, Communists, Gulags, Holocaust, etc., are not part of their lived experience. These subjects are remote and thus easy to joke about. After all, presently no one seems to have any issue with wearing a fascist beard.

 

[Toni]

For anyone not from the Midwest who is confused about this happening in a blue state, let me explain some demographics. Once you get outside the big cities, it's all sister-fucking cross-burners as far as the eye can reach. Horizon to horizon. Illinois is the same way.

I take extreme exception to this part of your OP.

The type of racism and bigotry you are decrying is indeed found in cities large and small as well as in rural areas and small towns across the US. I've spent most of my life in various parts of the mid-west. It's not worse than the behaviors I saw when I lived in an extremely diverse major metropolitan area. I wish that were not so, but it is. I can indeed find examples from large metropolitan multi racial multicultural pretty darn liberal areas any part of the US that you would care to mention. And I daresay, the same is true for any part of the world.

Yes: high schools and middle schools are doing an absolutely terrible job responding to displays of bigotry and racism. So is society. Schools are a reflection of society.

I do not disagree one iota with your outrage and disgust. I just refuse to allow your position that this is a Midwest thing go unchallenged. It's not. It's everywhere. It's more emboldened recently. That's true. In my upper midwest state, I've seen teenage/young adult males driving pick ups with Stars and Bars proudly displayed. And I also live in a community that came together to help a mosque rebuild, that elected a Jewish mayor for at least 20 years, until he decided he didn't want to be mayor anymore and then elected his son as a Senator. The total Jewish population in my town is probably limited to about a dozen families. 30 years ago, Hmong families were subjected to some pretty terrible racism and bigotry. Now we elect them. We're openly welcoming Somalis into our communities (not without some issues). Unfortunately, we tend to be less welcoming and understanding towards Native Americans and Black Americans. But in the 30 years or so I've lived here, there has been real and genuine progress. Frankly, people here are much more tolerant and less racist than when I lived in two very large, very metropolitan areas.

It's not rural people, folks. It's not small towns. It's also in the big cities and big metropolitan areas and it's also all over the world.

We just thought the Civil Rights movement resolved the issues and we wouldn't have to deal with it ourselves.

We were wrong.

This is a continuous process: getting people to treat each other well. It's not different than sexism or homophobia or Islamophobia or hatred of Irish or Catholics or Jews. Where I live now, it used to be the Pollacks (Polish) VS the Squareheads (Norwegians). The Catholics vs the Lutherans. It's all the same thing. Just slightly different flavors.

As long as we believe that it's only some other people who aren't very much like us or some other place that's a lot different than where we live, we'll never address the problem.

Walt Kelly may have drawn this strip for Earth Day but actual garbage isn't the only garbage that is drowning us:

 

[ZiprHead]

The parent who took a photo of Wisconsin high school boys giving what appears to be a Nazi salute on the steps of a local courthouse said Tuesday he was simply asking the teens to wave goodbye to their parents before they headed to prom and never anticipated the image would draw widespread condemnation.

https://apnews.com/5d53bb986d91403c9a363815b35a4dc1

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Right ... they're all waving. They're not saying "Heil, Hitler", they're saying "Hello, Hitler. How are you today?"

 

[ZiprHead]

Yea, I'm sceptical too. The white power kid in the front row...

 

[thebeave]

I'm getting sorta worried. There's a rumor going around on social media that they are building large "showers" and "ovens" in the vacant lot behind the school. They claim its for a school project (a combination pizza parlor and bathing facility to raise money for charity), but I have my suspicions otherwise.

 

[dismal]

Yea, I'm sceptical too. The white power kid in the front row...

Right, there are Nazis everywhere. In our schools, under our beds. So any explanation that requires a randomly selected group of white men to be about 95% Nazis is highly plausible.

Speaking of which, I believe most of the people posting in this thread are white. So let's try to keep the "seig heil"s to a minimum.

 

[ZiprHead]

Yea, I'm sceptical too. The white power kid in the front row...

Right, there are Nazis everywhere. In our schools, under our beds. So any explanation that requires a randomly selected group of white men to be about 95% Nazis is highly plausible.

Speaking of which, I believe most of the people posting in this thread are white. So let's try to keep the "seig heil"s to a minimum.

Jawohl.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Yea, I'm sceptical too. The white power kid in the front row...

Right, there are Nazis everywhere. In our schools, under our beds. So any explanation that requires a randomly selected group of white men to be about 95% Nazis is highly plausible.

Speaking of which, I believe most of the people posting in this thread are white. So let's try to keep the "seig heil"s to a minimum.

Ya, they were all just waving totally synchronously and it just randomly happened that the picture snapped when their arms were all up and it was a really high resolution camera, so there was no blurring of hands as they were moving back and forth.

Also, there are no American troops in Baghdad.