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Bidengate Breaks... err... down

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The former FBI informant charged with lying about the Bidens’ dealings in Ukraine told investigators after his arrest that Russian intelligence officials were involved in passing information to him about Hunter Biden, prosecutors said Tuesday in a new court filing, noting that the information was false.
Russia! Russia! Russia!

Oh wait... it was Russia.

Looks like they might need to warm up that "laptop" again.
Why revert to that tired old laptop when they can just manufacture a new Biden Crime Family scandal from whole cloth?

From my understanding, they're barrelling ahead with the impeachment inquiry anyway. Dismissing out of hand the fact that their main source for the bribery claims has been exposed as a Russian agent and acting as if that's not really a big deal at all.

Because they've (correctly) figured that the rubes that make up their base will believe anything they tell them. "Well, the radical left wing media says he's a Russian asset, but..." Or "the FBI says he's a Russian asset, but they're the 'Deep State' and have been compromised by Crooked Hillary and George Soros." At this point, the House Republicans don't even have to make up the story...it will spring up from the minds of their idiot followers and be shared on Facebook and Truth Social.
 
Unfortunately true. Crazy Marge Greene, for instance, hasn't paid any price for her delusional statements. She's probably in a stronger position with her home base, because she's on their TV every time she says something nuts.
 
Gullible MAGA zealots could easily see the Russian government as supplying helpful factual information about corrupt dealings of the Biden family behind the scenes. After all, they see Donald Trump as a great leader, so they can pretty much shrug this "trusted FBI informant" off as help from a foreign ally rather than an espionage operation designed to undermine and weaken the US government.
 
Gullible MAGA zealots could easily see the Russian government as supplying helpful factual information about corrupt dealings of the Biden family behind the scenes. After all, they see Donald Trump as a great leader, so they can pretty much shrug this "trusted FBI informant" off as help from a foreign ally rather than an espionage operation designed to undermine and weaken the US government.
And if you're trying to plant false information on a government you do it by providing a lot of true information that they can confirm by other means. Which means that just because you can verify a whole bunch of stuff doesn't mean the rest is also true.
 
Biden Impeachment Witness Alexander Smirnov Arrested Again for Lying to FBI
Alexander Smirnov was re-arrested after being released from custody on charges of making false statements to the FBI that were handed down last week.

Those charges allege that Smirnov lied about statements he made to authorities including that Hunter Biden had done business in Ukraine, and that he and president Joe Biden had received bribes from Ukrainian-based energy company Burisma.

Smirnov was arrested Thursday for the same charges he was arrested for last week. Smirnov’s legal team quickly filed a motion for his release, alleging that the second arrest was improper. “There are no provisions for the re-arrest of Mr. Smirnov in this District after being Ordered released,” the motion said. His lawyers requested that Smirnov be immediately released, or receive a detention hearing “without unnecessary delay.”
Alexander Smirnov, ex-FBI informant charged with lying about Bidens, to remain jailed | AP News
A former FBI informant charged with fabricating a multimillion-dollar bribery scheme involving President Joe Biden’s family must remain behind bars while he awaits trial, a judge ruled Monday, reversing an earlier order releasing the man.

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Smirnov, 43, pleaded not guilty to the charges accusing him of falsely telling his FBI handler that executives from the Ukrainian energy company Burisma had paid President Biden and Hunter Biden $5 million each around 2015. The claim became central to the Republican impeachment inquiry of President Biden in Congress.

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In urging the judge to keep him in jail, prosecutors revealed Smirnov has reported to the FBI having extensive contact with officials associated with Russian intelligence, and claimed that such officials were involved in passing a story to him about Hunter Biden. Prosecutors said Smirnov had been planning to travel to multiple countries days after his Feb. 14 arrest to meet with foreign intelligence contacts.
Is this the best that House Republicans can do? Fall for someone who just plain lied to them, someone with suspicious connections to Russia.
 
Biden Impeachment Witness Alexander Smirnov Arrested Again for Lying to FBI
Alexander Smirnov was re-arrested after being released from custody on charges of making false statements to the FBI that were handed down last week.

Those charges allege that Smirnov lied about statements he made to authorities including that Hunter Biden had done business in Ukraine, and that he and president Joe Biden had received bribes from Ukrainian-based energy company Burisma.

Smirnov was arrested Thursday for the same charges he was arrested for last week. Smirnov’s legal team quickly filed a motion for his release, alleging that the second arrest was improper. “There are no provisions for the re-arrest of Mr. Smirnov in this District after being Ordered released,” the motion said. His lawyers requested that Smirnov be immediately released, or receive a detention hearing “without unnecessary delay.”
Alexander Smirnov, ex-FBI informant charged with lying about Bidens, to remain jailed | AP News
A former FBI informant charged with fabricating a multimillion-dollar bribery scheme involving President Joe Biden’s family must remain behind bars while he awaits trial, a judge ruled Monday, reversing an earlier order releasing the man.

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Smirnov, 43, pleaded not guilty to the charges accusing him of falsely telling his FBI handler that executives from the Ukrainian energy company Burisma had paid President Biden and Hunter Biden $5 million each around 2015. The claim became central to the Republican impeachment inquiry of President Biden in Congress.

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In urging the judge to keep him in jail, prosecutors revealed Smirnov has reported to the FBI having extensive contact with officials associated with Russian intelligence, and claimed that such officials were involved in passing a story to him about Hunter Biden. Prosecutors said Smirnov had been planning to travel to multiple countries days after his Feb. 14 arrest to meet with foreign intelligence contacts.
Is this the best that House Republicans can do? Fall for someone who just plain lied to them, someone with suspicious connections to Russia.
Yes.
 
Seems like that while Hunter has issues with various demons, he isn't an idiot and easily followed a long script. The GOP were in a fishing expedition with very little bait. So hardly surprising they caught no fish.
 
Seems like that while Hunter has issues with various demons, he isn't an idiot and easily followed a long script. The GOP were in a fishing expedition with very little bait. So hardly surprising they caught no fish.
Marshall McLuhan comes to mind.
They caught no fish, but they put on a show for their brain damaged sheeples.
 
Seems like that while Hunter has issues with various demons, he isn't an idiot and easily followed a long script. The GOP were in a fishing expedition with very little bait. So hardly surprising they caught no fish.
Marshall McLuhan comes to mind.
They caught no fish, but they put on a show for their brain damaged sheeples.
If they wanted a show they would have had a public hearing. Even the Republicans are coming out of the closed door hearing saying that transcript will read well for Hunter Biden.
 
If they wanted a show they would have had a public hearing.
They’d have been a National embarrassment if they had done that. And they knew it. Just as Hunter said.
Yes. But you said they “put on a show”. You seem to be assuming the “brain damaged sheeples” know how to read.

Or perhaps the implication is that simply having the hearing is a win irrespective of how it turns out. Thats probably what you’re implying, yes?
 
You seem to be assuming the “brain damaged sheeples” know how to read.
Lulz! No… you don’t need to be able to read to watch Comer on Faux Nooz declaring that the Russian vodka guy who is his star witness, is absolutely correct about all the Pootey poop he has fed the Republitards.
 
Seems like that while Hunter has issues with various demons, he isn't an idiot and easily followed a long script. The GOP were in a fishing expedition with very little bait. So hardly surprising they caught no fish.
Marshall McLuhan comes to mind.
They caught no fish, but they put on a show for their brain damaged sheeples.
If they wanted a show they would have had a public hearing. Even the Republicans are coming out of the closed door hearing saying that transcript will read well for Hunter Biden.
A public hearing would let anyone check what they're saying happened.
 
Seems like that while Hunter has issues with various demons, he isn't an idiot and easily followed a long script. The GOP were in a fishing expedition with very little bait. So hardly surprising they caught no fish.
Marshall McLuhan comes to mind.
They caught no fish, but they put on a show for their brain damaged sheeples.
If they wanted a show they would have had a public hearing. Even the Republicans are coming out of the closed door hearing saying that transcript will read well for Hunter Biden.
A public hearing would let anyone check what they're saying happened.
Sure. But just because something was done in public and recorded on video doesn’t mean that Trump’s most ardent followers won’t interpret it the way they want to. (E.g., Jan 6)
 
Apparently it’s time for more ‘star’ witnesses to testify against Hunter Biden. This time the GOP has dredged up a couple of people doing time for fraud as their “ this time for sure!” moment.

They even sent a letter wondering why one of their Star witnesses wasn’t given early release. Said “witness” has only served 3 years of his 15 year sentence for fraud.

Remember, the GOP is truly the party of Law and Order!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...den-rcna142127

The committee also invited Devon Archer, Jason Galanis and Tony Bobulinski — all former business associates of Biden’s — to testify March 20.

When Biden, 54, testified last week at a closed-door deposition on Capitol Hill, he repeatedly denied that his father had any involvement with his business dealings.

“My father has never been involved in my business. I have never asked my father to be involved in my business. My father has never benefited from my business, and I have never asked anyone — or my father — to do anything for the benefit of anyone I’ve ever done business for,” he said, according to a transcript of the deposition.
 
But impeaching Trump for trying to get Ukraine to announce fake Biden investigation announcement in return for the release of funding passed by Congress (of which said announcement only didn't happrn due to whistleblower) and then inciting a riot in a last ditch attempt to steal election was hyper partisan.
 
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