You have been engaged in major disinformation against the US for decades. That makes you the likely suspect.
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Compared to the other main thing, that a drug addled rich kid mattered in the USA political landscape (who wasn't running for any official position), yes. I'm very convinced that Putin played a big role in the nothing burger of Hunter's laptop.
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barbos
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You need to see a doctor.
barbos
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You too, need to see a doctor.
Hunter Biden is absolutely corrupt piece of shit asshole and drug addict who does not need any "help" from russian propaganda. His father is a piece of shit too.
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Your analysis and evidence is yet more reason to believe that Putin was behind the propaganda campaign concerning the "laptop".
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I admit I am kind of lost in this discussion. Namely, its widely claimed that there is nothing on the laptop/harddrive/whatever that is substantially incriminating towards Joe Biden. That seems to be true AFAIK. Yet, at the same time, its also being claimed in this thread that Russia has fabricated at least some of the content. So, why would Russia go to the trouble of making up some content or changes to the laptop, if it's not damaging to JB or the US? What do they have to gain by doing that? It doesn't make a lot of sense.
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It is more credible than the insane claims that the US has attacked Russia or that the US provoked Russia into attacking Ukraine.
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Because accusations against politicians need not be true in order to be effective.
The Russians don't care that their claims are not true, or even that they won't stand up in court. They don't even care whether the claims ever get to a court. They just wanted to reduce the number of votes Biden got. They want to put the USA in the hands of whomever will harm it the most, because a weakened USA is an opportunity for Russia.
Just look at our resident Russian troll's contributions here. He doesn't give a crap whether the things he says are true; Prove beyond doubt that they are false, and he will just keep right on saying them as though nothing happened.
It's spam. It matters not that a million spam emails lead to 999,999 of them being deleted; What matters is to keep on churning them out to catch that one idiot who will open the attachment and let your virus get inside the firewall.
Human interaction evolved in an environment in which shame and embarrasment worked. Someone caught in a lie had to be sorry, and be seen to be sorry, or he would lose the protection of the tribe, and probably his life.
Shame was a survival trait.
But society is now sufficiently complex that a person who lacks shame can thrive - many people struggle to recognise a lie, if its debunking is accompanied by a total absence of shame and embarrasment. And a shamess person who doesn't depend upon the support of his audience can run amok with impunity.
Hence the "laptop scandal", and, ultimately, the current situation in Washington DC.
And that's somehow supposed to be a rebuttal?
Yes, he's an asshole and a drug addict. That in no way means it's not possible for him to be framed.
The image contains things that he can't have put there, thus it must be a plant.
It's an attempt to damage Joe Biden by association.
TSwizzle
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I don’t doubt there are Russian bots churning out propaganda to create chaos but the Hunter Biden laptop story isn’t one of them. Hunter is just a drug addled fuckwit out of his face on meth doing stupid shit that is certainly embarrassing for the Brandon brand. Were Russia trying to amplify it? Possibly but they couldn’t have done a better job of bringing attention to it than the ham fisted effort the US government agencies put into trying to suppress it. That backfired spectacularly.
thebeave
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Yeah, Loren's explanation is pretty weak, not to mention unsupported by evidence, IMHO. Hunter does a fine job on his own "damaging his dad by association"...there's no need (or benefit) for outsiders to embellish it. C'mon, man...not a joke!:
EXCLUSIVE: Life in the fast lane! How reckless Hunter Biden photographed himself driving at 172mph while behind the wheel of his Porsche en route to a days-long Vegas bender with prostitutes and pictured himself smoking CRACK while behind the wheel
How could you make this any more insane?! Maybe driving blindfolded while getting a blowjob?
Elixir
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Failure to find any "there there", is hardly suppressing it.
It's a lack of an "it".
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No wrong been done,
that's one good reason
I carry a gun!"
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(It was a mocking song, btw)
It's a lack of an "it".
"Judge can see
No wrong been done,
that's one good reason
I carry a gun!"
- paraphase of Frank Zappa
(It was a mocking song, btw)
barbos
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Rebuttal? What am I supposed to rebute here? Your shit you threw on the wall hoping it would stick?
This is fucking rich coming from people who were pushing Alfa-Bank Trump-Tower BS.
Was that Hunter Biden on the board of directors of Burisma? Yes you said? I rest my case.
barbos
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Exactly, claim without any evidence. It's Russia Derangement Syndrome.
Same as Russia putting bounties on american soldiers.
Same as Alfa-bank garbage.
Same as Steel dossier.
It's utter garbage and lies, and yet you accept it.
You ever going to provide proof on that chief, or are you just going to keep on repeating deliberate distortions?
Fuckit, I knew the answer before I finished typing.
barbos
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Imagine if Hunter was one of the Trump's kids.
The fact is, that old saying "Apple does not fall far from the tree" has merits. It was scientifically proven that personality traits are highly heritable. And either way, you lose. Because the alternative is basically that Biden was a shitty parent. Not that great scenario for POTUS.
But as I said personality traits are mostly inherited, that is genes, not parenting.
So one can judge parents by their kids. And Hunter is not a good kid, to put it mildly.
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barbos
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Well, what do you expect from such geniuses as Blinken?
Here:
Biden campaign, Blinken orchestrated intel letter to discredit Hunter Biden laptop story, ex-CIA official says
A former CIA official testified that then-Biden campaign senior adviser, now-Secretary of State Antony Blinken "played a role in the inception" of the public statement signed by current and past intelligence officials that claimed the Hunte
judiciary.house.gov
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barbos
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I think it was leaked that Blinken was the one who ordered "17 agencies" to cover up laptop disaster as "Russia, Russia, Russia!"
Come on, why can't it be Russia, when pretty much everything is routinely blamed on Russia?
Fucking nazi in Canadian Parliament was blamed by Trudeau on ...... Russia.
Biden campaign, Blinken orchestrated intel letter to discredit Hunter Biden laptop story, ex-CIA official says
A former CIA official testified that then-Biden campaign senior adviser, now-Secretary of State Antony Blinken "played a role in the inception" of the public statement signed by current and past intelligence officials that claimed the Hunte
judiciary.house.gov
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