Black Jogger Gunned Down In The Street

[barbos]

I am a grown man

Which part of my post are you waving away?

All of them. 3 idiots were trying to do citizen's arrest, which was a thing at the time.
Now I understand it's no longer a thing in Georgia which is good I guess. I am assuming rednecks actually aware of the change.

 

[barbos]

12 people on the jury said yup.

Does not change my judgement.

 

[TomC]

I am a grown man

Which part of my post are you waving away?

All of them. 3 idiots were trying to do citizen's arrest, which was a thing at the time.
Now I understand it's no longer a thing in Georgia which is good I guess. I am assuming rednecks actually aware of the change.

You actually believe that Arbery wasn't being attacked by a guy with a gun?

Ha ha ha...
Oh wait, you're serious.
Tom

 

[barbos]

By the way, when was the last time citizen's arrest was successfully and usefully executed?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Okay, show of hands. How many people here have been on a construction site they weren't supposed to?

For the millionth time - Arbery is dead because he attacked a guy with a gun, not because he trespassed some construction site.

Remember folks, self defense claims only exist when an armed man is attacked, not when armed men attack an unarmed man.

 

[barbos]

You actually believe that Arbery wasn't being attacked by a guy with a gun?

Yes, I think that and yes, I am serious.
Yes, that's how citizen's arrests usually looks like, well, right until the part with shooting.
Certainly in the western movies.

 

[barbos]

Okay, show of hands. How many people here have been on a construction site they weren't supposed to?

For the millionth time - Arbery is dead because he attacked a guy with a gun, not because he trespassed some construction site.

Remember folks, self defense claims only exist when an armed man is attacked, not when armed men attack an unarmed man.

Hey, you have citizen's arrest thing, not me. Deal with it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Okay, show of hands. How many people here have been on a construction site they weren't supposed to?

For the millionth time - Arbery is dead because he attacked a guy with a gun, not because he trespassed some construction site.

Remember folks, self defense claims only exist when an armed man is attacked, not when armed men attack an unarmed man.

Hey, you have citizen's arrest thing, not me. Deal with it.

And they were convicted of a false arrest, so your continual fallback on "citizen arrest" is a red herring. He was unlawfully detained and acted in self defense.

 

[TomC]

You actually believe that Arbery wasn't being attacked by a guy with a gun?

Yes, I think that and I yes I am serious.
Yes, that's how citizen's arrests usually looks like, well, right until the part with shooting.
Certainly in the western movies.

That's also what lynchings look like.

But what we're talking about is after the part with shooting.


And no, old fiction like western movies aren't a source of reality.

[insult removed]

 

[barbos]

Okay, show of hands. How many people here have been on a construction site they weren't supposed to?

For the millionth time - Arbery is dead because he attacked a guy with a gun, not because he trespassed some construction site.

Remember folks, self defense claims only exist when an armed man is attacked, not when armed men attack an unarmed man.

Hey, you have citizen's arrest thing, not me. Deal with it.

And they were convicted of a false arrest, so your continual fallback on that is a red herring. He was unlawfully detained and acted in self defense.

False arrest, eh? Then explain to me why did they remove citizen's arrest from the book after that?

 

[barbos]

And no, old fiction like western movies aren't a source of reality

Speak for yourself.

 

[TomC]

And no, old fiction like western movies aren't a source of reality

Speak for yourself.

I edited my post.
Tom

 

[TomC]

Okay, show of hands. How many people here have been on a construction site they weren't supposed to?

For the millionth time - Arbery is dead because he attacked a guy with a gun, not because he trespassed some construction site.

Remember folks, self defense claims only exist when an armed man is attacked, not when armed men attack an unarmed man.

Hey, you have citizen's arrest thing, not me. Deal with it.

And they were convicted of a false arrest, so your continual fallback on that is a red herring. He was unlawfully detained and acted in self defense.

False arrest, eh? Then explain to me why did they remove citizen's arrest from the book after that?

Because dumbasses didn't understand it.
Tom

 

[barbos]

Because dumbasses didn't understand it.

Exactly - not because they are racists.
Another thing dumbasses don't understand is 2nd amendment.

 

[Gospel]

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

1. A felony offense wasn't committed
2. They had no immediate knowledge of a felony offense being committed (for example an occupant or owner of the construction site who witnessed the theft screaming thief!!) they just imagined it
3. Their reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion did not meet any of the criteria required for a citizens arrest
4. They committed a felony by brandishing a firearm when they were not under threat which would have made the citizens arrest null and void if they could have made one

This post was not intended to change Barbos' judgment. I'm just reiterating the obvious in Barnie's style [removed]

 

[ZiprHead]

Okay, show of hands. How many people here have been on a construction site they weren't supposed to?

*all members raise hands*

Thanks, you can put your hands down now.

I can honestly say, "I have never been on a construction site I wasn't supposed to."
I sincerely doubt that I'm the only person who hasn't trespassed, much of anywhere. The closest I came was grabbing wood scraps from a home building site's burn pile to build a tree house.
Tom

So not only did you trespass but you also committed theft.

 

[laughing dog]

Okay, show of hands. How many people here have been on a construction site they weren't supposed to?

For the millionth time - Arbery is dead because he attacked a guy with a gun, not because he trespassed some construction site.

For the millionth time, Arbery was attacked by a guy with a gun. He tried to defend himself and the guy with a gun murdered him.
Tom

Nope.

Which part of my post are you waving away?
Tom

Don't bother. Jistory indicates the odds are against getting a reality-driven cogent reply from that poster.

 

[laughing dog]

Because dumbasses didn't understand it.

Exactly - not because they are racists.
Another thing dumbasses don't understand is 2nd amendment.

Actually, they are dumbass racists.

 

[TomC]

Okay, show of hands. How many people here have been on a construction site they weren't supposed to?

*all members raise hands*

Thanks, you can put your hands down now.

I can honestly say, "I have never been on a construction site I wasn't supposed to."
I sincerely doubt that I'm the only person who hasn't trespassed, much of anywhere. The closest I came was grabbing wood scraps from a home building site's burn pile to build a tree house.
Tom

So not only did you trespass but you also committed theft.

Neither.
The burn pile was by the side of the road. It was also illegal to burn trash in Marion County. Although construction crews regularly ignored the laws about that.

Especially out on the edges of the county, where I grew up. We were white folks, helping Make America Great(the first time). Laws didn't always apply the same way, although property taxes sure did.
Tom

 

[Jarhyn]

Okay, show of hands. How many people here have been on a construction site they weren't supposed to?

For the millionth time - Arbery is dead because he attacked a guy with a gun, not because he trespassed some construction site.

No. Arbery is dead because a guy with a gun attacked him.

Calling any defense, escape, or flailing against someone so armed "attack", after the actual attack was already initiated, is not merely an inexpert use of the English language; rather it is an expert abuse of it.