Breakdown In Civil Order

[Derec]

Former 'General Hospital' actor Johnny Wactor killed in downtown Los Angeles shooting

Wactor was leaving work downtown when he encountered three men at his car. He thought he was being towed.

abc7.com

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

 

[barbos]

Former 'General Hospital' actor Johnny Wactor killed in downtown Los Angeles shooting

Wactor was leaving work downtown when he encountered three men at his car. He thought he was being towed.

abc7.com

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

What is it worth? $1k? He did not even try to stop them. They shot him for no reason.

 

[TSwizzle]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

 

[thebeave]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

They should manufacture the cars with a canister of tear gas by the CC that goes off when its being tampered with. That'll teach 'em!

 

[TSwizzle]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

They should manufacture the cars with a canister of tear gas by the CC that goes off when its being tampered with. That'll teach 'em!

There are aftermarket anti-theft devices but shit, the manufacturers should provide some kind of protection. Elon Musk has done a good job, you never hear of Tesla catalytic converters being stolen.

 

[TV and credit cards]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

They do. It is an after market accessory you can have installed at the dealership. They are metal shields with security torx screws. Of course you can buy security torx bits but it adds precious time to your thieving endeavor. Prius' have more platinum in their cats so they are most sought after. Some are easy to access like the Tacoma. Chevy, Jeep, Dodge, and Ford cheap out on their cats and they have less precious metals in them worthy of a thief's effort.
https://catshield.com/

 

[TSwizzle]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

They do. It is an after market accessory you can have installed at the dealership.

Understood and noted in a later post but it should be standard by now.

 

[Jarhyn]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

They do. It is an after market accessory you can have installed at the dealership. They are metal shields with security torx screws. Of course you can buy security torx bits but it adds precious time to your thieving endeavor. Prius' have more platinum in their cats so they are most sought after. Some are easy to access like the Tacoma. Chevy, Jeep, Dodge, and Ford cheap out on their cats and they have less precious metals in them worthy of a thief's effort.
https://catshield.com/

Of course, the whole point is mooted by electric vehicles.

As time goes on I have less and less fucks to give about catalytic converter thieves on account of giving fewer fucks about catalytic converter owners...

 

[TV and credit cards]

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These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

They do. It is an after market accessory you can have installed at the dealership. They are metal shields with security torx screws. Of course you can buy security torx bits but it adds precious time to your thieving endeavor. Prius' have more platinum in their cats so they are most sought after. Some are easy to access like the Tacoma. Chevy, Jeep, Dodge, and Ford cheap out on their cats and they have less precious metals in them worthy of a thief's effort.
https://catshield.com/

Of course, the whole point is mooted by electric vehicles.

As time goes on I have less and less fucks to give about catalytic converter thieves on account of giving fewer fucks about catalytic converter owners...

That's fine for those with the means but what of all the low wage workers depending upon their vehicle to get to work? A new catalytic converter will set a person back as much as $2k or whatever insurance deductible they might have. Many poorer folks may not even have coverage for such.
Most every vehicle on the road has one or two catalytic converters. They are part of the exhaust between the engine and muffler(s). A vehicle can hardly be run without a catalytic converter. The exhaust would be so loud, a person wouldn't make it past the first cop.

 

[Jarhyn]

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These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

They do. It is an after market accessory you can have installed at the dealership. They are metal shields with security torx screws. Of course you can buy security torx bits but it adds precious time to your thieving endeavor. Prius' have more platinum in their cats so they are most sought after. Some are easy to access like the Tacoma. Chevy, Jeep, Dodge, and Ford cheap out on their cats and they have less precious metals in them worthy of a thief's effort.
https://catshield.com/

Of course, the whole point is mooted by electric vehicles.

As time goes on I have less and less fucks to give about catalytic converter thieves on account of giving fewer fucks about catalytic converter owners...

That's fine for those with the means but what of all the low wage workers depending upon their vehicle to get to work? A new catalytic converter will set a person back as much as $2k or whatever insurance deductible they might have. Many poorer folks may not even have coverage for such.
Most every vehicle on the road has one or two catalytic converters. They are part of the exhaust between the engine and muffler(s). A vehicle can hardly be run without a catalytic converter. The exhaust would be so loud, a person wouldn't make it past the first cop.

I think the government needs to stop subsidizing ICE and fossil fuel industries and spend all that money and suspend all defense development contracts for ICE and other fuel based military projects and spend that money on getting the country off gasoline and into electrics.

It's time for buy-backs of ICE vehicles and EV vouchers.

 

[ZiprHead]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

The cats in my bimmer are built into the exhaust manifold and cannot be cut out.

 

[TomC]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

The cats in my bimmer are built into the exhaust manifold and cannot be cut out.

Thanks for sharing that you're a rich white American male who can afford an expensive car, so you don't have a problem like the little people do.
Tom

 

[Jarhyn]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

The cats in my bimmer are built into the exhaust manifold and cannot be cut out.

Thanks for sharing that you're a rich white American male who can afford an expensive car, so you don't have a problem like the little people do.
Tom

So, just saying, maybe regulate the auto industry and require retrofit to protect such valuable components, or to exchange existing vehicles for electrics? Both of you, really.

It's time to start telling austerity to get fucked. We have the resources and the people to make a lot of cool shit happen and we waste it all on junk forced on us because we are "poor" and chasing the lowest common denominator to allow our wealthy to walk all over us and live lavishly.

We need some taxes up in this bitch, and to see the economy pushed towards things that actually make life better.

To be fair, that means denser cities, and trains..

 

[ZiprHead]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

The cats in my bimmer are built into the exhaust manifold and cannot be cut out.

Thanks for sharing that you're a rich white American male who can afford an expensive car, so you don't have a problem like the little people do.
Tom

You're quite welcome.

Actually I practically stole it. $4600 with less than 140 k miles on the clock.

 

[Person19960]

The car people honk their horns, they are honk... ees.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

Two problems:

1) A lot of the cars predate the wave of cat thefts.

2) It's very hard to adequately secure them without causing other problems. Cats rely on airflow for cooling, wrap them up too much and they'll get too hot. (Basically, a cat "burns" the unburned fuel without needing a combustible mix. That combustion energy shows up in the cat and can only be disposed of into the exhaust or out the sides.)

 

[TSwizzle]

When you take public transport in Los Angeles, you take your life in your hands;

Two violent attacks on Los Angeles County’s Metro transit system were reported over the Memorial Day weekend, the latest in a string of crimes that have prompted efforts to increase security on the region’s bus and rail lines. The Los Angeles Police Department responded Monday to reports of a stabbing around 10:30 p.m. at a bus stop near West Olympic Boulevard and South La Brea Avenue, according to police. The man, who was sitting at the bus stop, was found with lacerations and hospitalized in stable condition, according to officials. A suspect was taken into custody. Earlier that day around 9:50 a.m., a woman tried to board a bus near Temple and Spring streets and began fighting with the bus driver, according to police. She removed the bus driver’s prescription glasses and left the bus.

LA Times

You get what you vote for.

 

[thebeave]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

They should manufacture the cars with a canister of tear gas by the CC that goes off when its being tampered with. That'll teach 'em!

There are aftermarket anti-theft devices but shit, the manufacturers should provide some kind of protection. Elon Musk has done a good job, you never hear of Tesla catalytic converters being stolen.

Knowing how our CA politicians seem to care more for criminals more than their victims, we should just be thankful that they aren't making laws mandating vehicle changes to make it EASIER for thieves to steal the CCs. You know, like a cushy mat that unfurls under the car, some LED lights illuminating the CCs, fully charged batteries for their sawzall, cupholders, etc.

 

[TSwizzle]

These catalytic converter thieves are getting more brazen. And it sure doesn't help when the DA is very soft on crime.

And it doesn't help that car manufacturers do nothing to secure them.

They should manufacture the cars with a canister of tear gas by the CC that goes off when its being tampered with. That'll teach 'em!

There are aftermarket anti-theft devices but shit, the manufacturers should provide some kind of protection. Elon Musk has done a good job, you never hear of Tesla catalytic converters being stolen.

Knowing how our CA politicians seem to care more for criminals more than their victims, {snip}

This appears to be true;

An "extremely dangerous and violent criminal" who had escaped from custody multiple times has been captured again in Mexico, the Orange County District Attorney's Office announced Wednesday. Ike Nicholas Souzer, 20, escaped from a halfway house in Santa Ana last week, where he had been transported after a release from jail on probation. Souzer's criminal history includes the killing of his own mother, attacking correctional officers and two prior escapes from custody.
Souzer had been brought to the halfway house after serving a 90-day sentence for vandalism after he was caught spray-painting a freeway underpass. But the DA's office says it has fought repeatedly for harsher sentences over the years for Souzer's multiple offenses given his criminal history. At age 13, Souzer fatally stabbed his own mother and was later convicted of voluntary manslaughter. While on trial for that case, he escaped from juvenile hall in 2019, but was arrested the next day at a McDonald's in Anaheim. While in custody, he was convicted in December 2021 of attacking three correctional officers. He was convicted in 2023 of making and possessing a shank while in jail. Prosecutors sought a three-year sentence on that case but he was sentenced to one year in custody and two years of supervised release. He was free in three months on credit for good behavior and work time, and then was arrested days later on the vandalism charge.

ABC News

 

[ZiprHead]

When you take public transport in Los Angeles, you take your life in your hands;

Two violent attacks on Los Angeles County’s Metro transit system were reported over the Memorial Day weekend, the latest in a string of crimes that have prompted efforts to increase security on the region’s bus and rail lines. The Los Angeles Police Department responded Monday to reports of a stabbing around 10:30 p.m. at a bus stop near West Olympic Boulevard and South La Brea Avenue, according to police. The man, who was sitting at the bus stop, was found with lacerations and hospitalized in stable condition, according to officials. A suspect was taken into custody. Earlier that day around 9:50 a.m., a woman tried to board a bus near Temple and Spring streets and began fighting with the bus driver, according to police. She removed the bus driver’s prescription glasses and left the bus.

LA Times

You get what you vote for.

Who voted for that?