Breakdown In Civil Order

[bilby]

"We have fire after fire after fire, and now they're putting us in danger. We're all in danger in this neighborhood," said resident Levi Freeman.

Such touching concern for the people whose only shelter was destroyed, and whose lives were actually and directly endangered.

 

[Gospel]

I think we should try it. At least Australia has experience dealing with such things.

JK Not really.

I'm pretty sure that a fair number of the original US colonists arrived because their other options were prison or hanging or something.
Tom

The Puritans tried to take over Britain. Good, god fearing, warm beer swilling Britons kicked them out because they were religious assholes so they came here.

The UK only founded Australia as a prison colony because the US revolted and was no longer available, which led to the prison hulks filling up beyond their capacity.

That explains some of the Australian personalities on this forum.

 

[ZiprHead]

Being a sanctuary city does not mean ignoring crime, it means not criminalizing non-criminals. ICE does not, in fact, prevent or solve crimes -- it invents them. Decreasing the number of petty non-crimes pursued by the city frees the actual civic police force to focus on serious crimes, rather than being constantly co-opted to assist an incompetent federal agency with its ongoing program of fucking useless xenophobic bullshit.

Karen Bass would rather protect criminals than the citizens of Los Angeles.

It's like you didn't read it at all.

 

[TSwizzle]

While thousands die on the streets of California’s cities, insufferable prick Gavin Newsom moves his family into a $9m+ mansion. Probably to get his kids into a school away from the plebs.

California Governor Gavin Newsom and his wife have moved their family to an exclusive part of the state where all four of his children are now enrolled in Marin County schools. The Democrat, touted as a possible future presidential candidate, will keep his six-bedroom $3.7 million in Fair Oaks in suburban Sacramento home where he will stay with spouse Jennifer Siebel Newsom some nights of the week. But he will relocate his children 90 miles away to a $9.1 million home in Kentfield, Marin County where his eldest child Montana has just enrolled in high school at The Branson School - with tuition fees of up to $60,000 a year.

Daily Mail

 

[Tigers!]

I think we should try it. At least Australia has experience dealing with such things.

JK Not really.

I'm pretty sure that a fair number of the original US colonists arrived because their other options were prison or hanging or something.
Tom

The Puritans tried to take over Britain. Good, god fearing, warm beer swilling Britons kicked them out because they were religious assholes so they came here.

The UK only founded Australia as a prison colony because the US revolted and was no longer available, which led to the prison hulks filling up beyond their capacity.

That explains some of the Australian personalities on this forum.

Why are you looking at me, mate?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Oh great, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass is going to try to pass into law that Los Angeles be a "sanctuary city" and will not cooperate with Federal ICE to prevent deportations. That's right, the city will protect criminals (the drug dealers, the tourist burglars and gang bangers etc) from being deported.

And, once again, you fail to distinguish between illegals and criminals.

 

[ZiprHead]

Oh great, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass is going to try to pass into law that Los Angeles be a "sanctuary city" and will not cooperate with Federal ICE to prevent deportations. That's right, the city will protect criminals (the drug dealers, the tourist burglars and gang bangers etc) from being deported.

And, once again, you fail to distinguish between illegals and criminals.

Most of the people they consider to be illegals are asylum seekers and therefore not illegals.

 

[Jarhyn]

Oh great, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass is going to try to pass into law that Los Angeles be a "sanctuary city" and will not cooperate with Federal ICE to prevent deportations. That's right, the city will protect criminals (the drug dealers, the tourist burglars and gang bangers etc) from being deported.

And, once again, you fail to distinguish between illegals and criminals.

Well, between "criminals whose crime is 'hurting people'" and "criminals whose 'crime' is 'trespassing on the country'". They are still technically criminals, but then I'm pretty sure I qualify as a criminal for various acts and sundry myself.

The dishonesty in such statements generally is in the part where they would make an assumption that one manner of criminal behavior, despite careful consideration as to reasons and mitigation of any necessary consequences (as opposed to "imposed" consequences), equates to or necessitates also engaging in other forms of criminal behavior.

To be fair though, this is a bit of a Tinkerbell effect, an effect created by belief in it: keeping someone on the wrong side of the law, treating them as a criminal or putting them in fear of the local governance on a daily basis, tends to drive them towards acts of desperation and living on the harder side of town...

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Oh great, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass is going to try to pass into law that Los Angeles be a "sanctuary city" and will not cooperate with Federal ICE to prevent deportations. That's right, the city will protect criminals (the drug dealers, the tourist burglars and gang bangers etc) from being deported.

And, once again, you fail to distinguish between illegals and criminals.

Well, between "criminals whose crime is 'hurting people'" and "criminals whose 'crime' is 'trespassing on the country'". They are still technically criminals, but then I'm pretty sure I qualify as a criminal for various acts and sundry myself.

The dishonesty in such statements generally is in the part where they would make an assumption that one manner of criminal behavior, despite careful consideration as to reasons and mitigation of any necessary consequences (as opposed to "imposed" consequences), equates to or necessitates also engaging in other forms of criminal behavior.

To be fair though, this is a bit of a Tinkerbell effect, an effect created by belief in it: keeping someone on the wrong side of the law, treating them as a criminal or putting them in fear of the local governance on a daily basis, tends to drive them towards acts of desperation and living on the harder side of town...

Yeah, I meant "criminals" as in those who cause harm (or risk of harm: DUI and the like), not status offenses.

 

[Jarhyn]

Oh great, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass is going to try to pass into law that Los Angeles be a "sanctuary city" and will not cooperate with Federal ICE to prevent deportations. That's right, the city will protect criminals (the drug dealers, the tourist burglars and gang bangers etc) from being deported.

And, once again, you fail to distinguish between illegals and criminals.

Well, between "criminals whose crime is 'hurting people'" and "criminals whose 'crime' is 'trespassing on the country'". They are still technically criminals, but then I'm pretty sure I qualify as a criminal for various acts and sundry myself.

The dishonesty in such statements generally is in the part where they would make an assumption that one manner of criminal behavior, despite careful consideration as to reasons and mitigation of any necessary consequences (as opposed to "imposed" consequences), equates to or necessitates also engaging in other forms of criminal behavior.

To be fair though, this is a bit of a Tinkerbell effect, an effect created by belief in it: keeping someone on the wrong side of the law, treating them as a criminal or putting them in fear of the local governance on a daily basis, tends to drive them towards acts of desperation and living on the harder side of town...

Yeah, I meant "criminals" as in those who cause harm (or risk of harm: DUI and the like), not status offenses.

I figured you did, but the quote inside clearly steps across that boundary.

 

[thebeave]

Welcome to California!

British band robbed at gunpoint in Vallejo after arriving in US for tour

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- Video shows the moments British band Sports Team was robbed in Vallejo Tuesday morning. The band, which has had two Top 10 albums in the UK, had flown to America just hours before to begin a tour.

The robbers took most of their personal belongings including laptops and their passports. However, they weren't able to get any of the instruments.

The group says while the incident was intense, the most shocking part was the reaction from other people after it happened.

"In the UK, you're incredibly shocked when someone's pulled a gun on you. But then in the US there's kind of this resigned nature from a lot of people, which we find a little bit strange," said Alex Rice, the group's singer.