Child Rapist Trump Ruins Christmas

[Elixir]

That's right, I have a 45000 shipment coming

It's not my business, but what did you buy $45,000 worth of in this business climate? Imported, apparently from China.

I'm having trouble working up any more sympathy for you than I have for Walmart.
Tom

Sympathy for WAL-MART???!
2-yr view below. If there is one business that knows how to navigate Trumpy ground, they’re it. They would be expected to be among the first and worst hurt by the Chyyyyna tariff debacle, yet their stock is up by almost exactly the same amount that the dollar is down since King Donald II was coronated.

 

[unapologetic]

According to the current economic strategy in force, China has to pay the $45k,

That is not economic strategy, it is Rump's political strategy. And it's STUPID. The exporter doesn't pay that.
Economicly; ALL costs get passed on to the buyer/consumer. Politicaly; producers only suffer from a decrease in sales.
Jarhyn's choices are to pay the 45k, and raise the retal price. Or send the shipment back. The suplier will not be sending money to pay the terrif.

When an incredibly stupid person, or a large group of them is in charge, sometimes the only course is to let them have their way and try to salvage something from the debris.

They are not only stupid, they are bullys. Letting a bully have it's way only rewards/encourages them. they step-up their bullying.

 

[Jarhyn]

According to the current economic strategy in force, China has to pay the $45k,

That is not economic strategy, it is Rump's political strategy. And it's STUPID. The exporter doesn't pay that.
Economicly; ALL costs get passed on to the buyer/consumer. Politicaly; producers only suffer from a decrease in sales.
Jarhyn's choices are to pay the 45k, and raise the retal price. Or send the shipment back. The suplier will not be sending money to pay the terrif.

When an incredibly stupid person, or a large group of them is in charge, sometimes the only course is to let them have their way and try to salvage something from the debris.

They are not only stupid, they are bullys. Letting a bully have it's way only rewards/encourages them. they step-up their bullying.

No, the thing still hasn't even finished being made yet.

My choices are to store it in China until there's less risk of putting it on the ocean and getting stuck in a lurch... But that also delays shipment and release

 

[Toni]

Ugh. I'm picturing the salmon loaf my mom made in the 60s. Not one of her masterpieces.

Probably couldn’t tell it apart from boiled trump rump.

Salmon would be more nutritious and more palatable and less contaminated with nasty disease, and I share the anti-salmon loaf from the 60’s sentiment.

 

[Bronzeage]

According to the current economic strategy in force, China has to pay the $45k,

That is not economic strategy, it is Rump's political strategy. And it's STUPID. The exporter doesn't pay that.
Economicly; ALL costs get passed on to the buyer/consumer. Politicaly; producers only suffer from a decrease in sales.
Jarhyn's choices are to pay the 45k, and raise the retal price. Or send the shipment back. The suplier will not be sending money to pay the terrif.

When an incredibly stupid person, or a large group of them is in charge, sometimes the only course is to let them have their way and try to salvage something from the debris.

They are not only stupid, they are bullys. Letting a bully have it's way only rewards/encourages them. they step-up their bullying.

No, the thing still hasn't even finished being made yet.

My choices are to store it in China until there's less risk of putting it on the ocean and getting stuck in a lurch... But that also delays shipment and release

What did your Congressman say when you told him about your problem?

 

[unapologetic]

What did your Congressman say when you told him about your problem?

More to the point, I think, Are they Democat or Repugnant? You will need to claim you are the same party.

 

[bilby]

coronated

WTF is "coronated"??

A person who attends his own coronation is crowned.

 

[TomC]

My husband and I own an apparel (lingerie, mostly) brand for a specific kink community.

"Clothing from China" would have answered my question.

What I don't understand is why small importers would be surprised and angry about TACO government policies. Walmart is big and rich enough to get special exceptions, but y'all are not. Why are y'all surprised to find out that President Taco is making the rich richer and the rest of us...
Tom

 

[Elixir]

coronated

WTF is "coronated"??

A person who attends his own coronation is crowned.

Coronated, crownified, coronized … who’s counting?

 

[bilby]

coronated

WTF is "coronated"??

A person who attends his own coronation is crowned.

Coronated, crownified, coronized … who’s counting?

No, counting is making someone an Earl.

The Normans changed the title to Earl in England, after they discovered that the word Count was a homophone of "cunt" in Old English. It's hard to crush a population under your heel when they are busy laughing at your aristocratic titles.

 

[Jarhyn]

My husband and I own an apparel (lingerie, mostly) brand for a specific kink community.

"Clothing from China" would have answered my question.

What I don't understand is why small importers would be surprised and angry about TACO government policies. Walmart is big and rich enough to get special exceptions, but y'all are not. Why are y'all surprised to find out that President Taco is making the rich richer and the rest of us...
Tom

I'm not surprised. In fact, I'm depressingly not surprised.

I'm still angry it happened and we should still talk about it happening, because not only does Trump rape children, he has also thrown a wrench into Christmas season logistics.

 

[steve_bank]

I understand you situation and frustration.

But it illustrates the problem, deep dependence on cheap Chinese goods. It is a leverage over the USA. People want to make money on cheap stuff without a lot of effort.

Walmart is essentially a factory outlet for China.

This situation was coming for a long time.

Have you looked at Vietnam, Bangladesh, India, Mexico?

Have you looked at manufacturing in the USA? There are people who do piece work at home.

Do a search on American piece work garment manufacturing. Probably cheap done by illegals.

How many garments a month do you sell?


Keep in mind others are in similar situations and are finding ways around it.

Second and third sourcing is the name of the game.

As it gets more politically contentious with China trade gets more dicey. I would not count on it if you are dependent on the income.

 

[Jarhyn]

I understand you situation and frustration.

But it illustrates the problem, deep dependence on cheap Chinese goods. It is a leverage over the USA. People want to make money on cheap stuff without a lot of effort.

No, it doesn't; it represents the fact that supply chains are global now.

Walmart is essentially a factory outlet for China.

This situation was coming for a long time.

No, it wasn't. There was literally no need to charge US consumers 100% markups on literally everything they need to buy.

Have you looked at Vietnam, Bangladesh, India, Mexico?

For a very specific product that consumers expect to be consistent despite the fact that none of the material stocks I need for my product are available in any of those locations let alone a production line that could replicate it...

"Have you tried the first thing anyone tries in this situation"...

Have you looked at manufacturing in the USA? There are people who do piece work at home.

Hahaha! US manufacturing in this product category sucks.

One of our competitors tried this and EVERYONE complained.

The warehouse we ship from also does shipping and handling for a couple others in the industry, and they straight up threw away the domestic product they received it was so bad and made the supplier send them something else.

Do a search on American piece work garment manufacturing. Probably cheap done by illegals.

Wrong kind of garment.

How many garments a month do you sell?

About 6-8k worth with only a single size option so far; the container has our other three sizes in it.

Keep in mind others are in similar situations and are finding ways around it.

Yes they are, but no they aren't. It's literally Russian roulette depending on where a container happens to be. There's maybe a 30% chance someone will unavoidably be hit for double their normal resupply cost.

Second and third sourcing is the name of the game.

That's really NOT how that works with this product.

As it gets more politically contentious with China trade gets more dicey. I would not count on it if you are dependent on the income.

There's no need for this situation.

Which is my point: to put blame squarely on the shoulders of Donald Trump, the Child Rapist that is ruining Christmas.

There is literally no reason for you to try to blame the victim here; if you think it's a mistake to have overseas manufacturing and imports as a business model because what if a world leader throws a pissy pants tantrum and can't handle it maturely, but that is not a normal business logistics concern that anyone should have to deal with.

 

[steve_bank]

As an engineer I was involved in supply chain issues going back to the 80s.

Globalization was in full swing back then, accelerated by the opening of China.

Before electronics supplies went global there were always supply shortages here in the USA.

Today if you are modern bare circuit boards American sources will supply up to a certain volume, then outsource to China for large orders. The same with mage tics like transformers.

As far as I know TV and solar panel production is mostly China. Starting back in the glass CRT TV days manufacturing wholesale to China.

The problem is the anti American Chinese policy and its attempt on controlling international waters. Plus military threats against Japan and Taiwan. Before China Japan and Taiwan were the paces for cheap manufacturing,.

I agree with taking a strong posture against China, but Trump is trying to do too much too fast.

We have been too reliant on China for too long and China has been taking advantage of us.

Made In USA on a label Walmart hides the fact that while it may be assembled here, supply chains lead to China and elsewhere.

Before Trump there was a small shift toward Vietnam and India.

Don't forget Biden was promoting bringing manufacturing back to the USA for the same reasons as Trump.

This trade issue has been brewing for a very long time. Trump is bringing it to a head.

We are way too reliant on China who is an adversary.

Single source supply is always a risk wherever it is. Fire, going out of business, labor strikes, manufacturer supply chain problems.

Back in tee 80s a fire at an American semiconductor plant almost shut down manufacturing at my company.

It is not ging to get better with China.

 

[Elixir]

my point: to put blame squarely on the shoulders of Donald Trump, the Child Rapist that is ruining Christmas.

Thanks for clearing that up.
I think you should call him the “child raper”.
“Child rapist” sounds like a youngster who rapes.

 

[Gospel]

THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO BLAME ME FOR HIGHER COSTS FROM TARIFFS, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?! PRICES WERE ALREADY THROUGH THE ROOF BECAUSE OF THEIR CRAZY SPENDING AND WEAK POLICIES!!! WHEN I PUT STRONG, BEAUTIFUL TARIFFS ON CHINA (THEY WERE CHEATING US FOR YEARS!) IM PROTECTING AMERICAN WORKERS, AMERICAN JOBS, AND AMERICAN STEEL!!! THE RADICAL LEFT DESTROYED ENERGY AND DESTROYED SUPPLY CHAINS............. TOTAL DISASTER!!!

Trump probably

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

As an engineer I was involved in supply chain issues going back to the 80s.

Globalization was in full swing back then, accelerated by the opening of China.

Before electronics supplies went global there were always supply shortages here in the USA.

Today if you are modern bare circuit boards American sources will supply up to a certain volume, then outsource to China for large orders. The same with mage tics like transformers.

As far as I know TV and solar panel production is mostly China. Starting back in the glass CRT TV days manufacturing wholesale to China.

The problem is the anti American Chinese policy and its attempt on controlling international waters. Plus military threats against Japan and Taiwan. Before China Japan and Taiwan were the paces for cheap manufacturing,.

I agree with taking a strong posture against China, but Trump is trying to do too much too fast.

We have been too reliant on China for too long and China has been taking advantage of us.

Made In USA on a label Walmart hides the fact that while it may be assembled here, supply chains lead to China and elsewhere.

Before Trump there was a small shift toward Vietnam and India.

Don't forget Biden was promoting bringing manufacturing back to the USA for the same reasons as Trump.

This trade issue has been brewing for a very long time. Trump is bringing it to a head.

We are way too reliant on China who is an adversary.

Single source supply is always a risk wherever it is. Fire, going out of business, labor strikes, manufacturer supply chain problems.

Back in tee 80s a fire at an American semiconductor plant almost shut down manufacturing at my company.

It is not ging to get better with China.

Or America is taking advantage of China. Worse, Americans are taking advantage of Americans - they buy something from China for $20 and sell it to Americans for $100, making a big profit (even after expenses).

 

[bilby]

my point: to put blame squarely on the shoulders of Donald Trump, the Child Rapist that is ruining Christmas.

Thanks for clearing that up.
I think you should call him the “child raper”.
“Child rapist” sounds like a youngster who rapes.

Yeah, a child rapist isn't the same thing as a child-rapist.

 

[ZiprHead]

@Jarhyn As I understand, the 100% tariffs don't kick in until November. You can't get your product shipped in prior to that?

 

[steve_bank]

It would be a tragedy if people are deprived of their 'special' lingerie. God forbid having to wear Fruit Of The Loom or Haynes.