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Split City Vs Country Politics

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Having lived in both environs for many years, I would say that the light disdain some urbanites have for the countryside pales in comparison to the all-consuming rage rural Republicans harbor for the people of the city, especially non-white or non-Christian people in the city. I grew up in a town of 2,000 in the fruitbasket of the American US. Most of my neighbors here in Fremont, a sizeable city attached to the greater San Francisco/San Jose metropolitan region, have no idea where my hometown is when I tell them (though it is only sixty miles away) and would certainly never go to a little town like that voluntarily. They came to this country to escape places like that. A bit insulting, to be sure, and there are times, especially at church, that I'm made to feel like a bit of hick on account of my origins. But if I were to go back home, and if I were to drop by Cathy's Coffeeshop down the street from where I grew up, and introduce myself to the guys at the bar as a bisexual San Franciscan? I'm pretty sure I'd be in actual danger, especially if I kept trying to come around or enrolled my kids at the elementary. Not sure whether the inevitable bar fight over some damn thing or the inevitable visit from the CPS would come first. The same kind of violent threat to the well being of one's fellow-citizens does not exist in the other direction.

Anyways, city people being "mean" to the people of the soil is not why all these people marched on the capital. Their xenophobia, religious zealotry, and class frustrations stem from much deeper roots than some rude tweets about flyover country. I know liberals excel at self-doubt, but you can't just accept Republican criticisms of "elite" society, when they are only half-genuine, and mask the bloodsoaked designs the alt-right truly has for this country.
I dunno about that. I married a big city boy and spent the first dozen or so years of my adulthood in large urban areas—which I loved.

We’re of different generations, you and I , and that’s part if the difference of in our perspectives. My generation grew up with Andy Griffin show—and also Green acres and The Beverly Hill Billies. Big city people looking own on rural people and rural people having a lot of wisdom, common sense and smarts played right into a broad American base. Of course it was all produced by big city people for money so….,

Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
Which part of that is supporting a white nationalist coup supposed to solve?
 
Rural America has suffered heavy emigration. Any place that suffers heavy emigration ends up a shitshow because it's disproportionately the people with value that leave.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
What's with all the romanticizing? There was certainly a time when most of us were subsistence farmers. I must have missed the part where it was all wine and roses.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
Which part of that is supporting a white nationalist coup supposed to solve?
Which part of: most of those white nationalists were not farmers but were like that guy who made cabinets do you not understand?

What part of being scared you and your family will not make it past the next bad break or routine hospitalization do you not understand? Do you not know that rural and small community hospitals are being closed? Its not just women looking for abortions that have to travel a hundred miles— it’s women who are giving birth, or whose husbands are having a heart attack. And that just might not be rural farmers anymore.

What part of being referred to as racists from bumfuck nowhere is insulting and absolutely no more accurate than it is to to refer to urban dwellers as racists and ignorant—and plenty of the are?

Almost everyone in the US wants most of the same things: To earn a decent living. To be safe and secure —for themselves and their children. A decent education. Decent health care. A choice in where to live and how to earn a living. A shot at pursuing their dreams. To count. To have a voice in democracy. To be respected. Freedom of and from religion. Freedom of speech.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
What's with all the romanticizing? There was certainly a time when most of us were subsistence farmers. I must have missed the part where it was all wine and roses.
What’s romantic about being in the barn before sunrise and not finishing in the fields until after dark? What’s romantic about worrying if your crop will be washed out or not get enough rain when it needs it? What’s romantic about not being able to carry insurance on you and your spouse and having to rely on the county for your kids’ vaccination? Wondering if you can afford anything at all for Christmas? Were you aware that the rural poverty rate exceeds the urban poverty rate?

It’s a lot of hard work with the results being laergeky out of your control: weather, bank loans. You’d be surprised how sophisticated farmers are about international grain prices. They have to be.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
Which part of that is supporting a white nationalist coup supposed to solve?
Which part of: most of those white nationalists were not farmers but were like that guy who made cabinets do you not understand?

What part of being scared you and your family will not make it past the next bad break or routine hospitalization do you not understand? Do you not know that rural and small community hospitals are being closed? Its not just women looking for abortions that have to travel a hundred miles— it’s women who are giving birth, or whose husbands are having a heart attack. And that just might not be rural farmers anymore.

What part of being referred to as racists from bumfuck nowhere is insulting and absolutely no more accurate than it is to to refer to urban dwellers as racists and ignorant—and plenty of the are?

Almost everyone in the US wants most of the same things: To earn a decent living. To be safe and secure —for themselves and their children. A decent education. Decent health care. A choice in where to live and how to earn a living. A shot at pursuing their dreams. To count. To have a voice in democracy. To be respected. Freedom of and from religion. Freedom of speech.
Denying other people's fundamental rights will not make them feel any more secure in the long run. They will always know deep down that they seized illegal control of the government; you think the fear and paranoia of "the other" will ever go away? And it won't work anyway. Rural America will still be poor no matter how many Mexican-Americans or Blacks or gays or liberal professors they murder or imprison.

What part of being referred to as racists from bumfuck nowhere
I said no such thing, and do not appreciate the accusation. Though if someone is participating in a white nationalist organization, I do not see any lie in calling them racist.

You're pressing for "empathy", but I don't think you understand these organizations at all. They aren't asking for anyone's sympathy, nor do they accept it when offered. I doubt anyone in the Jan 6 crowd was actually a farmer. They neither know nor care about agricultural policy. They fucking hate it when big city liberals try to empathize with their sad plight. They're out for blood, and listening gently to their feelings will not meaningfully combat the growing insurrection.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
Which part of that is supporting a white nationalist coup supposed to solve?
Which part of: most of those white nationalists were not farmers but were like that guy who made cabinets do you not understand?
Yeah, the trouble is, the farmers voted for the guy the white nationalists supported.

Looking at the Ohio 2020 exit poll stats, something peculiar comes along.

Making less than $50,000:
Biden 52 to 46

Making more than $50,000:
Trump 43 to 56

That'd be the suburb dwellers.

Almost everyone in the US wants most of the same things: To earn a decent living. To be safe and secure —for themselves and their children. A decent education. Decent health care. A choice in where to live and how to earn a living. A shot at pursuing their dreams. To count. To have a voice in democracy. To be respected. Freedom of and from religion. Freedom of speech.
Exactly, except the conservative wants to tell people who they can marry, who they can fuck, and if they should be able to work.

The White Nationalist Trump supporter wants to beat their opponents.
The other Trump supporters wanted to get judges to ax the 14th amendment.

I don't care if they are city mice or country mice, they are vermin.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
Which part of that is supporting a white nationalist coup supposed to solve?
Which part of: most of those white nationalists were not farmers but were like that guy who made cabinets do you not understand?
Yeah, the trouble is, the farmers voted for the guy the white nationalists supported.

Looking at the Ohio 2020 exit poll stats, something peculiar comes along.

Making less than $50,000:
Biden 52 to 46

Making more than $50,000:
Trump 43 to 56

That'd be the suburb dwellers.

Almost everyone in the US wants most of the same things: To earn a decent living. To be safe and secure —for themselves and their children. A decent education. Decent health care. A choice in where to live and how to earn a living. A shot at pursuing their dreams. To count. To have a voice in democracy. To be respected. Freedom of and from religion. Freedom of speech.
Exactly, except the conservative wants to tell people who they can marry, who they can fuck, and if they should be able to work.

The White Nationalist Trump supporter wants to beat their opponents.
The other Trump supporters wanted to get judges to ax the 14th amendment.

I don't care if they are city mice or country mice, they are vermin.
I’m glad that no white people earning under $50K/year or who are racist live in cities.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
Which part of that is supporting a white nationalist coup supposed to solve?
Which part of: most of those white nationalists were not farmers but were like that guy who made cabinets do you not understand?

What part of being scared you and your family will not make it past the next bad break or routine hospitalization do you not understand? Do you not know that rural and small community hospitals are being closed? Its not just women looking for abortions that have to travel a hundred miles— it’s women who are giving birth, or whose husbands are having a heart attack. And that just might not be rural farmers anymore.

What part of being referred to as racists from bumfuck nowhere is insulting and absolutely no more accurate than it is to to refer to urban dwellers as racists and ignorant—and plenty of the are?

Almost everyone in the US wants most of the same things: To earn a decent living. To be safe and secure —for themselves and their children. A decent education. Decent health care. A choice in where to live and how to earn a living. A shot at pursuing their dreams. To count. To have a voice in democracy. To be respected. Freedom of and from religion. Freedom of speech.
Denying other people's fundamental rights will not make them feel any more secure in the long run. They will always know deep down that they seized illegal control of the government; you think the fear and paranoia of "the other" will ever go away? And it won't work anyway. Rural America will still be poor no matter how many Mexican-Americans or Blacks or gays or liberal professors they murder or imprison.

What part of being referred to as racists from bumfuck nowhere
I said no such thing, and do not appreciate the accusation. Though if someone is participating in a white nationalist organization, I do not see any lie in calling them racist.

You're pressing for "empathy", but I don't think you understand these organizations at all. They aren't asking for anyone's sympathy, nor do they accept it when offered. I doubt anyone in the Jan 6 criwd was actually a farmer. They neither know nor care about agricultural policy. They fucking hate it when big city liberals try to empathize with their sad plight. They're out for blood, and listening gently to their feelings will not meaningfully combat the growing insurrection.
Not you but others in this thread have.

Empathy is not sympathy.

Nobody likes to be condescended to as big city people are wont to do with less urban dwellers.

No matter to what extent either of us or any of us are ‘right,’ you ( general you, not you specifically) cannot win hearts and minds by calling other people stupid, ignorant, backwards, etc.

Personally, I’d like to see the stats on those who stormed the capitol. I’d be surprised to see any farmers.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
Which part of that is supporting a white nationalist coup supposed to solve?
Which part of: most of those white nationalists were not farmers but were like that guy who made cabinets do you not understand?

What part of being scared you and your family will not make it past the next bad break or routine hospitalization do you not understand? Do you not know that rural and small community hospitals are being closed? Its not just women looking for abortions that have to travel a hundred miles— it’s women who are giving birth, or whose husbands are having a heart attack. And that just might not be rural farmers anymore.

What part of being referred to as racists from bumfuck nowhere is insulting and absolutely no more accurate than it is to to refer to urban dwellers as racists and ignorant—and plenty of the are?

Almost everyone in the US wants most of the same things: To earn a decent living. To be safe and secure —for themselves and their children. A decent education. Decent health care. A choice in where to live and how to earn a living. A shot at pursuing their dreams. To count. To have a voice in democracy. To be respected. Freedom of and from religion. Freedom of speech.
Denying other people's fundamental rights will not make them feel any more secure in the long run. They will always know deep down that they seized illegal control of the government; you think the fear and paranoia of "the other" will ever go away? And it won't work anyway. Rural America will still be poor no matter how many Mexican-Americans or Blacks or gays or liberal professors they murder or imprison.

What part of being referred to as racists from bumfuck nowhere
I said no such thing, and do not appreciate the accusation. Though if someone is participating in a white nationalist organization, I do not see any lie in calling them racist.

You're pressing for "empathy", but I don't think you understand these organizations at all. They aren't asking for anyone's sympathy, nor do they accept it when offered. I doubt anyone in the Jan 6 criwd was actually a farmer. They neither know nor care about agricultural policy. They fucking hate it when big city liberals try to empathize with their sad plight. They're out for blood, and listening gently to their feelings will not meaningfully combat the growing insurrection.
Not you but others in this thread have.

Empathy is not sympathy.

Nobody likes to be condescended to as big city people are wont to do with less urban dwellers.
From my vantage point, there is condescension in all directions.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
Which part of that is supporting a white nationalist coup supposed to solve?

I think we are getting bogged down by conflating the city/country us vs them dynamic, with the actual problem of trumpsuckers. The problem of trumpsuckers, as has been pointed out, is not that they are all country bumpkins. They're NOT, as also pointed out regarding the 1/6 crowd; they obviously weren't at their jobs that day, and had money for travel and lodging...
The problem of trumpsuckers was identified above; it's about the desire for an authoritarian father figure they can look up to, identify with and pretend to resemble. I just wonder what depths of self hate causes anyone to look up to DJT.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
Which part of that is supporting a white nationalist coup supposed to solve?

I think we are getting bogged down by conflating the city/country us vs them dynamic, with the actual problem of trumpsuckers. The problem of trumpsuckers, as has been pointed out, is not that they are all country bumpkins. They're NOT, as also pointed out regarding the 1/6 crowd; they obviously weren't at their jobs that day, and had money for travel and lodging...
The problem of trumpsuckers was identified above; it's about the desire for an authoritarian father figure they can look up to, identify with and pretend to resemble. I just wonder what depths of self hate causes anyone to look up to DJT.
I don't like this idea that Trumpism is somehow justified by urban elitism. It's a wan "both sides" argument that fails to take the threat of right wing extremism seriously. Is there bigotry in cities? Of course there is. But no one I know of is trying to kill or even hurt poor rural whites. If it's a real problem, attempts to violently otherthrow democratic governance is not a reasonable or equitable response, and I don't think sympathizing with the feelings of the alt-right political engine will do anything to dissuade the insurrectionist cause. If everyone in every city had a magical change of heart tomorrow and never said anything rude or condescending about poor Southern whites ever again... they would not abandon their project. Because their goal isn't to make city people treat them more politely. Their goal is to seize the reins of government and silence or eliminate everyone they consider a threat to their understanding of the national culture. Portayals of some of those enemies as condescending assholes are a weapon for their war, a tool to recruit rural middle class families to their side, not a true motivating issue for the alt-right. As such, they'll happily make the accusation whether its true or not.
 
I don't like this idea that Trumpism is somehow justified by urban elitism.

Who expressed that idea?
There are definitely reasons for trumpism, but I don’t see any of them rising to the level of justification.
And urban elitism isn’t even one of the reasons IMO. It’s a sort of mass psychosis, and it spans a bunch of demographics.
 
Country people are not angry because of mean tweets. They’re tired of being considered stupid, backward and ignorant. And are tired of property taxes and crop prices driving them off their land or their neighbors, with the new people complaining that manure smells bad and farm equipment moves too slow. It’s painful to know that the land your family has owned and farmed for over 100 years will not support your kids and they’ll be off in the city living in some little box.
Which part of that is supporting a white nationalist coup supposed to solve?

I think we are getting bogged down by conflating the city/country us vs them dynamic, with the actual problem of trumpsuckers. The problem of trumpsuckers, as has been pointed out, is not that they are all country bumpkins. They're NOT, as also pointed out regarding the 1/6 crowd; they obviously weren't at their jobs that day, and had money for travel and lodging...
The problem of trumpsuckers was identified above; it's about the desire for an authoritarian father figure they can look up to, identify with and pretend to resemble. I just wonder what depths of self hate causes anyone to look up to DJT.
I don't like this idea that Trumpism is somehow justified by urban elitism. It's a wan "both sides" argument that fails to take the threat of right wing extremism seriously. Is there bigotry in cities? Of course there is. But no one I know of is trying to kill or even hurt poor rural whites. If it's a real problem, attempts to violently otherthrow democratic governance is not a reasonable or equitable response, and I don't think sympathizing with the feelings of the alt-right political engine will do anything to dissuade the insurrectionist cause. If everyone in every city had a magical change of heart tomorrow and never said anything rude or condescending about poor Southern whites ever again... they would not abandon their project. Because their goal isn't to make city people treat them more politely. Their goal is to seize the reins of government and silence or eliminate everyone they consider a threat to their understanding of the national culture. Portayals of some of those enemies as condescending assholes are a weapon for their war, a tool to recruit rural middle class families to their side, not a true motivating issue for the alt-right. As such, they'll happily make the accusation whether its true or not.
I don’t think that Trumpism is justified. Period.

I have seen for years urbanite distain towards rural and small town dwellers, Think about it: the two coasts disregard the rest of the country, except Chicago and except for their occasional recreational needs. They call everywhere they don’t live flyover country, and want to make the US senate-the ONLY place where large population states and small population states are equal-completely proportionately represented as if House of Representatives and electoral votes are not enough. Why settle for two out of three?

As far as I can see, urbanites are killing other urbanites and mostly it’s poor people killing other poor people, except when big corporations do it or cities through their neglect.

There are no hoards of rural dwellers coming to kill city folk. Not even on Jan 6.

Trumpism appeals to the disaffected wherever they live,

Yes, country folk as a whole are more socially conservative and more likely to attend church and to oppose abortion. I just saw a poll that says most democrats oppose abortion after 15 weeks. Just like in Mississippi,

Again, I’d love to see where most of the Jan 6 insurrectionists hail from. Same with proud boys.

I’ve mentioned before that we learned some years after his death that my mother’s stepfather ( a farmer) belonged to the Klan. I knew he was deeply racist and avoided him from a very young age. But the only time I saw anybody actually dressed in Klan robes, IRL was just outside Washington DC in a very well to do suburb.
 
I don't like this idea that Trumpism is somehow justified by urban elitism.

Who expressed that idea?
There are definitely reasons for trumpism, but I don’t see any of them rising to the level of justification.
And urban elitism isn’t even one of the reasons IMO. It’s a sort of mass psychosis, and it spans a bunch of demographics.

What I liked about Poli's point was the recognition that the alleged contempt of urban elites was a weapon for converting people to Trumpism and validating their sense of victimization. Nobody in the Trumpist leadership really cares about urban elites and what they think. They care about recruiting people into the personality cult and keeping them there, because that is what gives them a large base of useful supporters to take and hold political power. So this divisive issue about the urban-rural divide is just buying into a Trumpist talking point that works for Trumpism and doesn't particularly help Democrats or the struggle to keep our democratic republic from losing to creeping authoritarianism.
 
I will say this. I have Free Speech TV on in the background most of the day. If you are unfamiliar, they are quite liberal/progressive/whatever you want to call it. But they support rural people and farmers. Bioneers, farm markets, regenerative farming for low carbon farming.

I've made deliveries all over the state. Inevitably in small towns if asked where I'm from and I tell them, they'd say "Oh, I'd never go there." because I live in a city.
 
I don't like this idea that Trumpism is somehow justified by urban elitism.

Who expressed that idea?
There are definitely reasons for trumpism, but I don’t see any of them rising to the level of justification.
And urban elitism isn’t even one of the reasons IMO. It’s a sort of mass psychosis, and it spans a bunch of demographics.

What I liked about Poli's point was the recognition that the alleged contempt of urban elites was a weapon for converting people to Trumpism and validating their sense of victimization. Nobody in the Trumpist leadership really cares about urban elites and what they think. They care about recruiting people into the personality cult and keeping them there, because that is what gives them a large base of useful supporters to take and hold political power. So this divisive issue about the urban-rural divide is just buying into a Trumpist talking point that works for Trumpism and doesn't particularly help Democrats or the struggle to keep our democratic republic from losing to creeping authoritarianism.
Nobody in the Trump leadership cares about anything other than themselves. But they are willing to exploit the urban/rural divide by espousing views they don’t actually hold ( family values anyone??)
I will say this. I have Free Speech TV on in the background most of the day. If you are unfamiliar, they are quite liberal/progressive/whatever you want to call it. But they support rural people and farmers. Bioneers, farm markets, regenerative farming for low carbon farming.

I've made deliveries all over the state. Inevitably in small towns if asked where I'm from and I tell them, they'd say "Oh, I'd never go there." because I live in a city.
Yes, I'm familiar. I wasn't allowed as a teen to go 15 miles into the city where my father worked every day because reasons.

When we first moved here from a major city, one of our 10 year old's new friends was over and I said something about moving to our town (pop 25K) was a big adjustment for him. The new friend helpfully piped up and said he knew what son felt like: he had moved a couple of years before from the next town over (population 425. Not thousand: 425) and our town was quite an adjustment.

When we moved here, I knew my career prospects were zilch and that our kids would move away to the city where jobs are. People will go to the city to visit their kids.
 

I have seen for years urbanite distain towards rural and small town dwellers
you keep saying that, and everyone seems to be fine with just letting you get away with it, but i call bullshit.
'city people' don't have disdain for rural people, because 'city people' don't have any thoughts about rural people *period*.

the only city people with any sort of active disdain for rural people are former rural people who now live in a big city.
if you grew up in an urban area and never spent time in a truly bumfuck region and have no experience with it, you literally don't think about those people.

this whole "nyeh city people are so disdainful of country folk" meme is just a combination of classic conservative projection (blaming others for the thing you're doing) and buying into a narrative you saw on TV that doesn't exist in real life.

Think about it: the two coasts disregard the rest of the country
and therein lies the truth - there's no disdain, there's simply disregard, mostly born of ignorance (the innocent kind) and when it isn't a complete lack of acknowledgement entirely it's disdain of rural folk for being absolute horrendous pieces of shit and not because they live in a small town.

'small town' culture is an equally disgusting and degenerate mass of bullshit as what you see from the ultra rich - completely delusional idiots with no concept of life outside of their own little bubble, mired in rigid hypocrisy and fantasy in a pathetic attempt to force their narrow view of reality on everyone else.

there's nothing inherently wrong with living in a small town, but the entire concept of a small town is predicated on something that no longer exists.
small self-contained and self-sustaining rural communities in the U.S. started out as leeches suckling at the engorged varicose veins of plantations and/or gold mines. they sprouted up around some kind of economic backbone that artificially supported them, and were only able to exist on that scale due to the outside resources brought in by that backbone.
when the slaves and the gold went away these towns all withered up and barely survived until the manufacturing boom hit, and that only happened because they were all so poor and desperate that it was profitable to use them as factory slave labor.
when that went away because there are even cheaper brown people in other countries, the towns immediately died again.

the big fat lie that every small town in the U.S. in the present day is founded on is that it's a self-contained system... that the town doesn't need the 'outside world' and can get by solely on its own local ecosystem.
and that's probably true for a small town that contents itself with subsistence living-off-the-land and local trade, but here's the big fat secret rural types don't want you to know that makes the whole thing fall apart: none of them want that.
small town people want infrastructure, water treatment, electricity, daily mail service, high speed internet, HBO, and a walmart.
they want an urban life, they just don't want to have to be around other people or to generate any kind of viable economic activity to make bringing it all to them worth anyone's investment to bother with.

and so they sit in their dusty bumfuck nowhere collection of shacks and bemoan 'big city' people, because those evil 'big city' people have bent over fucking backwards to bring the modern world to them and they resent it because fucked up inbred protestant idiocy makes them think being given something means they are 'lesser than.'


Trumpism appeals to the disaffected wherever they live,
this is such BS, this is like saying that cannibalism appeals to anyone with cancer, because they have cancer and want a cure for it, and cannibalism is.... something something?

the absolute fact is that rural idiots vote republican, and republicans do absolutely NOTHING in any way shape or form to materially improve their living conditions.
democrats verifiably DO improve their living conditions, but by doing so initiate some kind of fucktarded hillbilly vengeance pact against the very people who are trying to help them, because that "hard work" ethic you're so fond of makes these communities incapable of accepting the economic and infrastructure assistance they require in order to live in the modern world without going completely ape shit over the fact that someone handed them something.

rural people actively vote to destroy their own lives, and they do it year after year and they are screamingly proud of it.
they aren't struggling with economic hardship and just wanting to live a safe and stable american dream life... they fucked themselves into desperation, and now they're trying to cut the throat of anyone who tries to help them.
 
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