steve_bank
Diabetic retinopathy and poor eyesight. Typos ...
Trying to explain physics to a tree stump is rather pointless.
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As you say, ineffective. Paris has done basically nothing--which means it isn't raising energy prices.
Now, if he goes through with his tariffs the result is going to be a huge increase.
Baffling that you think that's a reasonable response. You're dismissing evidence (which is admittedly not the most specific) of change with a response saying that change is normal.
That stop sign is not red because we expect stop signs to be red.
Directly, no. Indirectly through war, possibly. Indirectly through some of those who will die deciding to take their killers with them with a bioweapon, also possibly. We quite routinely synthesize DNA. We have synthesized a virus and demonstrated it worked. Smallpox was sequenced. Most DNA writing is done through big companies that are very careful about not producing known evils, but it doesn't have to be.
And with enough infection points smallpox would take us out. Doesn't even need to be made resistant to the vaccine.
DBT
Contributor
It would depend on the severity of the climate crisis. We've had them before and managed, the 536ad event followed by a mini ice age and another one during the middle ages, with much suffering but life went on.
Perhaps given the scale and complexity of our society we are not so resilient, but a total collapse is not inevitable.
TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
An odd response. I must be missing something. I am nowhere near Camarillo.
steve_bank
Diabetic retinopathy and poor eyesight. Typos ...
Out of sight out of mind.
What drug crisis? I don't know any drug addicts. We alwayss had drug addicts.
Alcoholic Actuary
Veteran Member
You keep referring to the temperature in Santa Monica as evidence against global warming while next door Malibu and Ventura are burning to the ground. BTW, the average temperature in Santa Monica in Nov has historically been around 65. 80 is evidence of warming if anything.
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TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
And you think California wildfires are caused by global warming/climate change? There are a lot of things in play when it comes to wildfires in California but climate change is not one of them.
Has the temperature in Santa Monica reached 80 this month? I can't say I have noticed. Right now it is a catastrophic 71f.
Elixir
Made in America
Ah good to know. Air temperature and oxidation are unrelated phenomena.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not even sure about the universe"
- A. Einstein
Shadowy Man
Contributor
why wouldn’t the state of the climate impact wildfires, their likelihood of starting and their rate of spread? On what basis are you saying that?
TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
Because it is a claim without evidence.
Alcoholic Actuary
Veteran Member
Average for October is 68. But the last thing I want to do is interrupt the hole you are digging - please continue. (I kind of understand how your anti-science brain can't figure out how wildfires relates to climate change. Rake the forests amirite?)
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TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
The temperature fluctuates at this time of year.
Surely you must be aware that wildfires in California are a natural and necessary phenomenon?
Shadowy Man
Contributor
So, your point is that there’s no evidence that the state of a climate has any impact on forest fires? Humidity doesn’t matter. Heat waves don’t matter.
Should all forests have the same kinds and amounts of fires irrespective of the local climate?
It's the interconnected bit that would do us in. Back then society wasn't so dependent on a wide variety of skills. People were fairly replaceable pegs. Low skill workers still are, but the high skill ones are not, especially the high skill ones that know how the systems tick. It doesn't take losing too many of those to cause a collapse--and once the collapse starts it inevitably continues. Without our tech we can't sustain our population, so even more would be lost, lowering the level even more.
steve_bank
Diabetic retinopathy and poor eyesight. Typos ...
I suppose there are people paid by anti climate change interests to post repetitious simplistic statements.
Similar to Barbos on Russia.
Similar to Barbos on Russia.
Climate change has made the fires worse. We are seeing a lot more of the big fires that make their own weather and the fire crews can do very little against them.
The forest is even more of a tinderbox than normal. I'm next door in Nevada but I've been seeing it here--there are more days that I consider too hot and when I go out the forests are even drier than normal. And I have seen no replacement at all of the stuff that burned more than 10 years ago. Nothing but annuals, no baby trees.
Nobody's saying all forests should have the same amount of fire. What we are saying is that the fires are bigger than normal and there are more of the unstoppable ones that wipe towns off the map.