Climate Change(d)?

[Elixir]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate. It is a phenomenon that has been happening on planet earth since forever.

You are ignoring the time scale. Most changes in the past took thousands of years. This one is only about two hundred years.

You’re arguing with someone whose entire worldview depends on anthropogenic climate change being a hoax or a non- issue. Personally I think he should become an actuary. It would be great to buy some insurance at “climate change hoax” rates.

 

[TSwizzle]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate. It is a phenomenon that has been happening on planet earth since forever.

You are ignoring the time scale. Most changes in the past took thousands of years. This one is only about two hundred years.

Not hardly.

It's a balmy 82 degrees in Santa Monica today. Oh the humanity!!!

 

[Shadowy Man]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate.

Strawman.

It is a phenomenon that has been happening on planet earth since forever.

How do you know that?

 

[TSwizzle]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate.

Strawman.

It is no more or less of a strawman when the "climate change denier" gets trotted out but I never see you call that out weirdly enough.

 

[steve_bank]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate. It is a phenomenon that has been happening on planet earth since forever.

Uhhhh....can you cite anyone on the forum or anywhere who clams climate never changes?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[TSwizzle]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate. It is a phenomenon that has been happening on planet earth since forever.

Uhhhh....can you cite anyone on the forum or anywhere who clams climate never changes?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Well you all seem so astonished that the climate fluctuates. I have to assume that many think that climate is static and does not change.

But in reality it is of course a strawman that SW has called out which is in response to the tiresome strawman "climate change denier" that your ilk keep trotting out.

 

[Shadowy Man]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate.

Strawman.

It is no more or less of a strawman when the "climate change denier" gets trotted out but I never see you call that out weirdly enough.

Actually, I believe that I addressed that before. Pedantically you are correct but the phrase is shorthand for something slightly nuanced. Are you the type that protests the use of “black lives matter” because there isn’t an explicit expression of the obviously implied “too”?

And I see you conveniently clipped out the question I asked.

 

[Shadowy Man]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate. It is a phenomenon that has been happening on planet earth since forever.

Uhhhh....can you cite anyone on the forum or anywhere who clams climate never changes?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Well you all seem so astonished that the climate fluctuates. I have to assume that many think that climate is static and does not change.

That’s a gross misinterpretation of what we are saying. Climate scientists know that the climate has changed over the eons. Climate scientists also know that the current changes we are seeing are not consistent with historical changes and have anthropogenic sources.

So, if you believe that the climate has changed that means that you believe what the climate scientists have told you. But you don’t seem to want to believe other things they tell you because it conflicts with your observation of the weather in Santa Monica.

Since you are clearly not a trained climate scientist I can simply dismiss your (at best) simplistic understanding of the science and defer to the expertise of the climate scientists.

 

[steve_bank]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate. It is a phenomenon that has been happening on planet earth since forever.

Uhhhh....can you cite anyone on the forum or anywhere who clams climate never changes?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Well you all seem so astonished that the climate fluctuates. I have to assume that many think that climate is static and does not change.

But in reality it is of course a strawman that SW has called out which is in response to the tiresome strawman "climate change denier" that your ilk keep trotting out.

Again support your assertion of those who say climate never changes.

In fact it is you who is exhibiting cult like behavior. How's that for irony?

Who on forum appears astonished? Most of us who debate evolution are well aware of historical climate chge.

There are well known climate cycles due to sun activity and the motion of the Earth. Climate deniers have used those known cyclic changes to argue the rapid changes are not man made.

Th changes over the last 200 years do not line up with any known cyclic changes.

It is known that the Sahara has had wet and green periods.

Anyone on the west coast from Ca to Wash knows about the short term cycles El Nino and El Nina, and how it affects weather. You do know what they are don't you?

 

[Elixir]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate. It is a phenomenon that has been happening on planet earth since forever.

Uhhhh....can you cite anyone on the forum or anywhere who clams climate never changes?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Well you all seem so astonished that the climate fluctuates. I have to assume that many think that climate is static and does not change.

That’s a gross misinterpretation of what we are saying. Climate scientists know that the climate has changed over the eons. Climate scientists also know that the current changes we are seeing are not consistent with historical changes and have anthropogenic sources.

So, if you believe that the climate has changed that means that you believe what the climate scientists have told you. But you don’t seem to want to believe other things they tell you because it conflicts with your observation of the weather in Santa Monica.

Since you are clearly not a trained climate scientist I can simply dismiss your (at best) simplistic understanding of the science and defer to the expertise of the climate scientists.

Republicans immediately become surpassing climate scientists once they find a crackpot or two voicing what they want to hear.

Of course 97% of climate scientists can be wrong. After all they were taught by other climate scientists, right? So one wrong climate scientist churns out hundreds of wrong scientist drones, who all repeat the conventional wisdom. And a bunch of them go into the teaching business. Next thing you know, 97% of so-called climate scientists" are wrong.

Meanwhile THE TRUTH® resides with the howling fossil fuel Company Lawyers, who have shown us again and again how the climate change industry is making bank scaring the hell out of people with their left wing climate change propaganda hoax.

 

[Shadowy Man]

I just want to know how one reasons that climate scientists are right about historical climate change but wrong about anthropogenic climate change.

I know the answer and it’s political in nature but it is just another example of exposing the hypocrisy.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate. It is a phenomenon that has been happening on planet earth since forever.

Yeah, and it has varied to extremes that we would find quite unsuitable. On the cold side most everything died. On the hot side most everything died.

 

[Swammerdami]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate.

Strawman.

It is no more or less of a strawman when the "climate change denier" gets trotted out but I never see you call that out weirdly enough.

Actually, I believe that I addressed that before. Pedantically you are correct but the phrase is shorthand for something slightly nuanced. Are you the type that protests the use of “black lives matter” because there isn’t an explicit expression of the obviously implied “too”?

And I see you conveniently clipped out the question I asked.

I literally burst out laughing when I saw the word "nuanced."

Have you ever seen a QOPAnon cultist indicate any understanding of "nuance"?

 

[Swammerdami]

I wrote scripts to process summary records from the NOAA world-wide weather stations, but nobody has taken me up on the offer.

The summaries are usually a day or two behind. The summary from weather station 994028 (Santa Monica Pier) currently goes only to 30 October.

It's a balmy 82 degrees in Santa Monica today. Oh the humanity!!!

Before anyone accuses Mr. Swizzle of ignoring the balm in his own eye, note that this report -- even if verified -- will not show the hottest Halloween Day on record for Santa Monica Pier. It would be in the #2 slot (though well ahead of the #3: 75.7° on 31-10-2019). The hottest Halloween Day recorded by the Santa Monica Pier weather station came in 2015 with a "balmy" 85.5°.

The 77.4° at the Pier on 30-10-2023 is also #2 for that date, far ahead of #3. The #1 record is, again, held by 2015.

 

[Shadowy Man]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate.

Strawman.

It is no more or less of a strawman when the "climate change denier" gets trotted out but I never see you call that out weirdly enough.

Actually, I believe that I addressed that before. Pedantically you are correct but the phrase is shorthand for something slightly nuanced. Are you the type that protests the use of “black lives matter” because there isn’t an explicit expression of the obviously implied “too”?

And I see you conveniently clipped out the question I asked.

I literally burst out laughing when I saw the word "nuanced."

Have you ever seen a QOPAnon cultist indicate any understanding of "nuance"?

I did say “slightly”…

 

[Shadowy Man]

I wrote scripts to process summary records from the NOAA world-wide weather stations, but nobody has taken me up on the offer.

The summaries are usually a day or two behind. The summary from weather station 994028 (Santa Monica Pier) currently goes only to 30 October.

It's a balmy 82 degrees in Santa Monica today. Oh the humanity!!!

Before anyone accuses Mr. Swizzle of ignoring the balm in his own eye, note that this report -- even if verified -- will not show the hottest Halloween Day on record for Santa Monica Pier. It would be in the #2 slot (though well ahead of the #3: 75.7° on 31-10-2019). The hottest Halloween Day recorded by the Santa Monica Pier weather station came in 2015 with a "balmy" 85.5°.

The 77.4° at the Pier on 30-10-2023 is also #2 for that date, far ahead of #3. The #1 record is, again, held by 2015.

See. It’s been getting cooler since 2015. Global warming is therefore a hoax.

 

[Swammerdami]

See. It’s been getting cooler since 2015. Global warming is therefore a hoax.

It's even worse than that. The Earth was a veritable furnace at the beginning of the Eocene. If you "scientists" knew how to connect two points with a straight line you'd see that in a few million years the Earth will be colder than Marjorie Taylor Greene's tit it was at the height of the Karoo glaciation -- an ice age from which not a single mammal survived.

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[Jimmy Higgins]

Well, thanks to this strong El Nino, it snowed last night. Gonna have the leaves raked before Xmas this year! Maybe even before December. First time in several years. Had one heck of an average seasonal summer, other than humidity.

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate. It is a phenomenon that has been happening on planet earth since forever.

We've been witnessing geological scale very fast warming of Earth, the air and water. This correlates well to industrialization. We had some of the warmest years during La Nina cycles, where things aren't supposed to be so warm. The Gulf Coast (land and water) saw record season long temps.

We don't know how this will ultimately impact our lives. It isn't going to end life on Earth, unless the methane release in the permafrost becomes a mass driver in too quick a time.

Heat waves are hotter and more enduring. We do know that catastrophic flooding is more common now. Hurricanes are blooming quicker and stronger in the last 20 years, than in the previous 20 years, and much more so than the 20 years before that. These are all being experienced globally. This is costing us more money and insurance companies are fleeing areas. There are actual impacts of climate change that expand beyond the weather in Southern California.

 

[TSwizzle]

It's baffling that people think the climate should not change or fluctuate.

Strawman.

It is no more or less of a strawman when the "climate change denier" gets trotted out but I never see you call that out weirdly enough.

Actually, I believe that I addressed that before. Pedantically you are correct but the phrase is shorthand for something slightly nuanced.

It is shorthand but there is nothing nuanced about it. It is base name calling. It is a religious chant aimed at heretics.

 

[steve_bank]

Name calling? More irony.

Climate change is a cult...climate change is a cult..climate change is a cult awk awk

You keep calling us mindless followers of a cult. Being a sensitive person I am deeply hurt.... oh not really.