Climate Change(d)?

[Elixir]

What a despicable rag Teh Gruaniad is.

That's important.

But the despicable traitor trying to do away with American democracy?
No biggie.

WTF is wrong with those people?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Turning carbon dioxide into gasoline efficiently

Captured CO2 can be turned into carbon-neutral fuels, but technological advances are needed. In new research, a new catalyst increased the production of long-chain hydrocarbons in chemical reactions by some 1,000 times over existing methods.

news.stanford.edu

I think if we can get energy from smugness or road rage, it'd be greener.

Making gasoline from fossil fuels (even if that's not done until those fossil fuels have been burned once at a power plant first) does exactly nothing to mitigate climate change.

If you are going to make synthetic gasoline, you have to extract the carbon directly from air, and not from the smokestacks of fossil fuelled power plants; Any carbon taken from those smokestacks needs to be permanently locked away, which conversion to gasoline doesn't achieve.

Better still, eliminate those power plants completely.

Can you scrub enough CO2 from the atmosphere to be able to make enough fuel? Also, where is the hydrogen coming from?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

No surprise that the jew baiting Gruaniad are running this piece;

Emissions from Israel’s war in Gaza have ‘immense’ effect on climate catastrophe. Israel’s unprecedented bombardment of Gaza since Hamas killed as many as 1,200 Israelis has caused widespread death and destruction. According to the Gaza health authority, almost 23,000 Palestinians – mostly women and children – have been killed, with thousands more buried under the rubble presumed dead. About 85% of the population has been forcibly displaced and faces life-threatening food and water shortages, according to UN agencies. More than 100 Israeli hostages remain captive in Gaza and hundreds of Israeli soldiers have been killed.

In addition to the immediate suffering, the conflict is exacerbating the global climate emergency, which goes far beyond the CO2 emissions from bombs and planes. The new research calculates that the carbon cost of rebuilding Gaza’s 100,000 damaged buildings using contemporary construction techniques will generate at least 30m metric tonnes of warming gases. This is on a par with New Zealand’s annual CO2 emissions and higher than 135 other countries and territories including Sri Lanka, Lebanon and Uruguay.

Teh Gruaniad

Takeaway, jews are making climate change much worse. What a despicable rag Teh Gruaniad is.

While the research seems quite a silly angle to look at the Gaza operation, I think your complaining of anti-Semitism baiting is quite hypocritical.

 

[bilby]

Turning carbon dioxide into gasoline efficiently

Captured CO2 can be turned into carbon-neutral fuels, but technological advances are needed. In new research, a new catalyst increased the production of long-chain hydrocarbons in chemical reactions by some 1,000 times over existing methods.

news.stanford.edu

I think if we can get energy from smugness or road rage, it'd be greener.

Making gasoline from fossil fuels (even if that's not done until those fossil fuels have been burned once at a power plant first) does exactly nothing to mitigate climate change.

If you are going to make synthetic gasoline, you have to extract the carbon directly from air, and not from the smokestacks of fossil fuelled power plants; Any carbon taken from those smokestacks needs to be permanently locked away, which conversion to gasoline doesn't achieve.

Better still, eliminate those power plants completely.

Can you scrub enough CO2 from the atmosphere to be able to make enough fuel?

According to the paper I linked from Los Alamos National Laboratory, yes. They use the Carbon Dioxide that the cooling water dissolves out of the atmosphere as it cascades through the cooling towers as their source; That Carbon Dioxide is 'scrubbed' from the water using Potassium Carbonate as a catalyst.

Also, where is the hydrogen coming from?

Water. Some comes from the water used in the scrubbing process, some from water electrolysed using energy generated by the power plant.

 

[Jokodo]

Modern electric cars have batteries that fill most of the 'available' space in the car, and form the floor of the vehicle; As such they would require disassembly of the entire vehicle to replace, and are an essential structural element whose incorrect fitting and securing would compromise the crash resilience of the vehicle.

I am no automobile engineer, but from what I know I would hope it is not strictly speaking the batteries themselves but the grid on which they are installed that carries the load and takes the crunch? Part of that structure could remain part of the car while the battery or batteries are made removable, with only minor changes, no?

A car could, certainly, be designed with a replacable battery pack, but this pack would necessarily be rather smaller than an integrated battery (that's why they integrate them); So range between swaps/charges would be lower.

High storage density batteries are also fragile. Even slight damage during handling and storage could render them highly dangerous; Would you be happy to swap your brand new battery for a beaten up old battery that has been abused by the employees of hundreds of battery swapping facilities?

Even if the replacement is not damaged enough to be dangerous (or can be designed to be robust without becoming too heavy to be practical), it likely has far less capacity than the new unit does - you're swapping a valuable unit for an almost worthless one, and paying for the privilege.

What do you mean, "your" battery? In this model, the battery isn't conceptually part of the car but rather something else you need to actually drive, like a driver or roads. Or like those bottles of pressurised CO2 I bed for my little machine that makes sparkling water at home. I carry the empty bottle to the shop to get a full one every time, and around half of the time the full one is more beaten up than the one I brought. So what? I'm not buying the bottle, I'm buying the content, and dealing is just way more convenient than refilling the one I brought, and can be done at every supermarket checkout without extra infrastructure.

 

[TSwizzle]

Oh dear;

Car rental giant Hertz is selling 20,000 EVs - a third of its electric fleet - due to a lack of demand and expensive repair costs. The proceeds from those sales will be used to reinvest in gas cars, the company said in its most recent filings.

Daily Mail

 

[Shadowy Man]

Oh dear;

Car rental giant Hertz is selling 20,000 EVs - a third of its electric fleet - due to a lack of demand and expensive repair costs. The proceeds from those sales will be used to reinvest in gas cars, the company said in its most recent filings.

Daily Mail

I can easily imagine that people wouldn’t want to rent an electric vehicle. They make most sense as a daily commuter vehicle for homeowners who can recharge every night.

EVs are not a panacea but part of the overall approach and it should not be surprising that they don’t fill every niche of vehicle usage.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No surprise that the jew baiting Gruaniad are running this piece;

Emissions from Israel’s war in Gaza have ‘immense’ effect on climate catastrophe. Israel’s unprecedented bombardment of Gaza since Hamas killed as many as 1,200 Israelis has caused widespread death and destruction. According to the Gaza health authority, almost 23,000 Palestinians – mostly women and children – have been killed, with thousands more buried under the rubble presumed dead. About 85% of the population has been forcibly displaced and faces life-threatening food and water shortages, according to UN agencies. More than 100 Israeli hostages remain captive in Gaza and hundreds of Israeli soldiers have been killed.

In addition to the immediate suffering, the conflict is exacerbating the global climate emergency, which goes far beyond the CO2 emissions from bombs and planes. The new research calculates that the carbon cost of rebuilding Gaza’s 100,000 damaged buildings using contemporary construction techniques will generate at least 30m metric tonnes of warming gases. This is on a par with New Zealand’s annual CO2 emissions and higher than 135 other countries and territories including Sri Lanka, Lebanon and Uruguay.

Teh Gruaniad

Takeaway, jews are making climate change much worse. What a despicable rag Teh Gruaniad is.

While the research seems quite a silly angle to look at the Gaza operation, I think your complaining of anti-Semitism baiting is quite hypocritical.

He does have a point--it's an example of trying to throw as much mud at the Jews as possible. And when your opponent is slinging a torrent of mud you can pretty much figure he doesn't have any good points.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Oh dear;

Car rental giant Hertz is selling 20,000 EVs - a third of its electric fleet - due to a lack of demand and expensive repair costs. The proceeds from those sales will be used to reinvest in gas cars, the company said in its most recent filings.

Daily Mail

That's not a problem with EVs. That's a problem with Teslas being pieces of shit.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Oh dear;

Car rental giant Hertz is selling 20,000 EVs - a third of its electric fleet - due to a lack of demand and expensive repair costs. The proceeds from those sales will be used to reinvest in gas cars, the company said in its most recent filings.

Daily Mail

I can easily imagine that people wouldn’t want to rent an electric vehicle. They make most sense as a daily commuter vehicle for homeowners who can recharge every night.

EVs are not a panacea but part of the overall approach and it should not be surprising that they don’t fill every niche of vehicle usage.

Exactly. EVs make fine daily cars for most people.

 

[TSwizzle]

ffs, between the covid nonsense and the coming climate apocalypse the damage being done to some young people by the unhinged doomsters is disgusting;

“It sucks… and it’s only going to get worse,” my client says, disbelief colouring their facial expression. I’m inclined to agree, it does suck. I can feel my hands starting to get clammy as my memory flashes back to the catastrophic climate events I’ve watched unfold recently. Bearing witness to the climate crisis can feel surreal at times, yet I do not mention this to my client. I have a job to do, and it is not to escalate their rational anxieties and fears, it is to manage what is manageable; to teach coping strategies, to encourage connection to nature and social relationships, to channel their grief into sustainable action that feels meaningful. I work closely with adolescents and young adults, and I have witnessed yet again this summer an alarming surge in feelings of anger and despair over the climate. The source of their distress is not a personal trauma or a fleeting setback; it is an existential threat that looms larger every passing day.
Life as we know it is becoming more unstable with each passing day.

Teh Gruaniad

No it is not you fucking charlatan.


All week it has been a catastrophic 63 in Santa Monica. Climate change my ass.

 

[steve_bank]

A beer in one hand, the other working between your legs, and you manage to type at the same time.

Neat trick.

 

[Elixir]

Hey, today we learned that a week in Santa Monica is “Climate”.
The educational value of this place would be hard to underestimate.

 

[TSwizzle]

A beer in one hand, the other working between your legs, and you manage to type at the same time.

Neat trick.

What the actual fuck are you on about here? If I read you correctly, the implication is that I masturbate and drink beer while posting? Is that it? Do you think you are clever? Do you think you are smart? Funny perhaps? Do better.

 

[lpetrich]

Jimmy Higgins's link: Turning carbon dioxide into gasoline efficiently | Stanford News

Captured CO2 can be turned into carbon-neutral fuels, but technological advances are needed. In new research, a new catalyst increased the production of long-chain hydrocarbons in chemical reactions by some 1,000 times over existing methods.

... The new catalyst is composed of the element ruthenium – a rare transition metal belonging to the platinum group – coated in a thin layer of plastic. Like any catalyst, this invention speeds up chemical reactions without getting used up in the process. Ruthenium also has the advantage of being less expensive than other high-quality catalysts, like palladium and platinum.

Cargnello and his team describe the catalyst and the results of their experiments in their latest paper, published this week in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Noting Steering CO2 hydrogenation toward C–C coupling to hydrocarbons using porous organic polymer/metal interfaces | PNAS

Cargnello and his team took seven years to discover and perfect the new catalyst. The hitch: The longer the hydrocarbon chain is, the more difficult it is to produce. The bonding of carbon to carbon requires heat and great pressure, making the process expensive and energy intensive.

 

[steve_bank]

A beer in one hand, the other working between your legs, and you manage to type at the same time.

Neat trick.

What the actual fuck are you on about here? If I read you correctly, the implication is that I masturbate and drink beer while posting? Is that it? Do you think you are clever? Do you think you are smart? Funny perhaps? Do better.

Can you pronounce the word metaphor?

The image of a scientifically ignorant person in his underwear swilling beer while ranting that those who understand climate change are disgusting.

Such Internet behavior which is common is a form of self gratification. To extend the metaphor, when you masturbate the only person you fool is yourself.

Your repeated simplitic messaging does nothng to us, I can only assume you are very pleased with yourself thinking you are putting it to us.

 

[TSwizzle]

A beer in one hand, the other working between your legs, and you manage to type at the same time.

Neat trick.

What the actual fuck are you on about here? If I read you correctly, the implication is that I masturbate and drink beer while posting? Is that it? Do you think you are clever? Do you think you are smart? Funny perhaps? Do better.

Can you pronounce the word metaphor?

The image of a scientifically ignorant person in his underwear swilling beer while ranting that those who understand climate change are disgusting.

Such Internet behavior which is common is a form of self gratification. To extend the metaphor, when you masturbate the only person you fool is yourself.

Your repeated simplitic messaging does nothng to us, I can only assume you are very pleased with yourself thinking you are putting it to us.

I understand, much easier for you resort to school yard name calling. Carry on.

 

[steve_bank]

Fizzle, this is a science forum. Most of us posting on science have some foundations in science. Enough to understand the basis for climate predictions.

Yo have posted nothing refuting the scientific basis for predicting climate change and the causes. How many repetitive posts have you made saying 'climate change is a cult'? Do you make the rounds of forums on the net posting the same words?

If you want to make what are political and social commentaries about what is going on the political forum is more appropriate.

 

[TSwizzle]

Yo have posted nothing refuting the scientific basis for predicting climate change and the causes.

the science of Jimmy having to rake leaves in December? lol.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Yo have posted nothing refuting the scientific basis for predicting climate change and the causes.

the science of Jimmy having to rake leaves in December? lol.

Well, he’s got us there. Thread is over, folks.