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The US, which has a 7-day average of nearly 250,000 new cases a day (or 75 per 100,000 per day), is roughly 4.5 times higher than the Level IV threshold the CDC is using for high risk destinations.

Let's Go Brandon !! :ROFLMAO:
No sorry--stay out of Manitoba--stay out of Canada, puhleeze.
 
I got my booster last week, and I thought that perhaps, because it's a half dose I wouldn't feel as bad as when I got my second shot. That isn't true. It was even worse this time around. If that's the response to a spike protein, I can't imagine how bad one could possibly feel due to covid itself. Glad I ended up with Moderna all around though.
Moderna booster on the 23rd; Pfizer the first 2. The Moderna reactions was less than the Pfizer, and a little different.
 
In NH, 67% are reported fully vaccinated. Assuming that there are at least some partially vaccinated people, that means the unvaccinated are less than a third of the population. Yet they make up 2/3 of the hospitalizations. They are not only serving to spread and mutate the virus, they are monopolizing health care resources to the detriment of everyone else.

I hear a lot of "Omicron will save us from Delta ... some day", but they fail to mention that meanwhile NOTHING is going to save a lot of people from otherwise preventable deaths, due to hospitals filled with happy plague rats.

"Omicron isn't that bad", they said. Come on, kids it'll be fun!

A five-fold increase in pediatric admissions in New York City this month. Close to double the numbers admitted in Washington, DC. And nationwide, on average, pediatric hospitalizations are up 48% in just the past week.

Article said:
"It's almost like you can see the train coming down the track and you're just hoping it doesn't go off the rails," Dr. Claudia Hoyen, director of pediatric infection control at UH Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital in Cleveland told CNN.
"It's going to be a very interesting couple of weeks. We've just had all of these kids mixing together with everybody else during Christmas. We have one more holiday to get through with New Year's, and then we'll be sending everybody back to school," Hoyen said.
"Everybody is kind of waiting on the edge, wondering what we'll end up seeing."

Sounds like they need a little pep talk from Metaphor. I'm having a hard time getting on board.
I give Meta's Happy Talk at least double the chance of Derec's predictions did a year or so ago, but that was near zero in the first place.
Thank you for posting this. Particularly the stats on pediatric Covid.
 
I got my booster last week, and I thought that perhaps, because it's a half dose I wouldn't feel as bad as when I got my second shot. That isn't true. It was even worse this time around. If that's the response to a spike protein, I can't imagine how bad one could possibly feel due to covid itself. Glad I ended up with Moderna all around though.
Moderna booster on the 23rd; Pfizer the first 2. The Moderna reactions was less than the Pfizer, and a little different.

It seems to have more to do with the individual than the vaccine.
I'd already had C19, I believe, months earlier.

My first shot was nothing. I could only feel the spot I got the shot. Second one was very different. My upper arm throbbed painfully, and I was wheezy and puny for a couple days. Still, not a big deal. This was Moderna.

I think it just depends on the person.
Tom
 
*have* it. Not *had.* Present tense
She might have been kidding... I do that all the time when people get too close.

I'd never jokingly say I have Covid. I will purposely keep my shopping cart in the way of an unmasked person behind me preventing them from starting to put stuff up on the checkout conveyor until I can move ahead and I'm ready to let them start.
 
So, it now transpires that everyone who was at my house on Christmas Day has contracted some form of covid, another two positive this afternoon. And every person in attendance was vaccinated twice and most had a recent booster. So this obsession with vaccine passports and masks should stop. It does hee-haw to “stop or slow the spread”. Time for the control freaks to do one.
 
So, it now transpires that everyone who was at my house on Christmas Day has contracted some form of covid, another two positive this afternoon. And every person in attendance was vaccinated twice and most had a recent booster. So this obsession with vaccine passports and masks should stop. It does hee-haw to “stop or slow the spread”. Time for the control freaks to do one.
This has to be the weirdest bit of "logic" i've come across in quite some time.
 
So, it now transpires that everyone who was at my house on Christmas Day has contracted some form of covid, another two positive this afternoon. And every person in attendance was vaccinated twice and most had a recent booster. So this obsession with vaccine passports and masks should stop. It does hee-haw to “stop or slow the spread”. Time for the control freaks to do one.
This has to be the weirdest bit of "logic" i've come across in quite some time.
Well, there was that anti-vax meetup recently where a bunch of people got sick, and decided that this was evidence of an Anthrax attack by their political opponents.

But it's certainly "logic" of the kind we more usually see on this board from creationists.
 
So, it now transpires that everyone who was at my house on Christmas Day has contracted some form of covid, another two positive this afternoon. And every person in attendance was vaccinated twice and most had a recent booster. So this obsession with vaccine passports and masks should stop. It does hee-haw to “stop or slow the spread”. Time for the control freaks to do one.
First, did they all have a booster? Or were there a person (among those that are positive) with no booster, and several months since the second dose?

Second, did any of the people with a booster get a serious case of the disease?

Third, was anyone wearing a good mask? (or even any masks)

In any case, remember that that is one case of a spreading event, and only a few people were involved. It is very weak evidence, and there is evidence from entire countries.
 
So, it now transpires that everyone who was at my house on Christmas Day has contracted some form of covid, another two positive this afternoon. And every person in attendance was vaccinated twice and most had a recent booster. So this obsession with vaccine passports and masks should stop. It does hee-haw to “stop or slow the spread”. Time for the control freaks to do one.
This has to be the weirdest bit of "logic" i've come across in quite some time.
What have you been reading? This crap "logic" is coming up all the time here.
 
So, it now transpires that everyone who was at my house on Christmas Day has contracted some form of covid, another two positive this afternoon. And every person in attendance was vaccinated twice and most had a recent booster. So this obsession with vaccine passports and masks should stop. It does hee-haw to “stop or slow the spread”. Time for the control freaks to do one.
You should have been all drinking bleach. It works.
 
First, did they all have a booster? Or were there a person (among those that are positive) with no booster, and several months since the second dose?

I’m not sure if everyone had a booster but I know for sure everyone was double vaccinated.

Second, did any of the people with a booster get a serious case of the disease?

So far nothing serious.

Third, was anyone wearing a good mask? (or even any masks)
Are you having a laugh?

Is he having a laugh?

In any case, remember that that is one case of a spreading event, and only a few people were involved. It is very weak evidence, and there is evidence from entire countries.

We’re batting 1000 in my super spreader event. 11 for 11.
 
USA! USA !!!

The U.S. hit a new high for new daily COVID cases with 512,533 cases reported on Thursday, breaking its previous record of 489,267 reported on Wednesday, according to a DailyMail.com analysis of John Hopkins data.

Daily Mail


Let’s Go Brandon !!
 
TSwizzle said:
I’m not sure if everyone had a booster but I know for sure everyone was double vaccinated.
But after a few months, protection against infection wanes by a lot - though they probably still have some good protection against severe disease.

TSwizzle said:
So far nothing serious.
Great!

But then the anecdotal evidence still supports vaccination.


TSwizzle said:
Are you having a laugh?

Is he having a laugh?
No; rather, I'm considering your argument. You said:
TSwizzle said:
So, it now transpires that everyone who was at my house on Christmas Day has contracted some form of covid, another two positive this afternoon. And every person in attendance was vaccinated twice and most had a recent booster. So this obsession with vaccine passports and masks should stop. It does hee-haw to “stop or slow the spread”.
The cases you observe are only anecdotal evidence. But if they weren't wearing any masks, it constitutes zero evidence against masks. The argument against masks makes zero sense.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
However, that doesn't mean Delta isn't still out there. And prior infection doesn't seem to offer a lot of protection against Omicron (so quit bleating "herd immunity!") so Omicron probably doesn't offer much protection against Delta, either. Omicron swamping Delta won't get rid of Delta.
Do you have any evidence of that?

Here's some inconclusive evidence against your assessment above:



 
"Inconclusive..."


"Evidence of..."

Inconclusive evidence is nothing but evidence of inconclusivity.
 
"Inconclusive..."


"Evidence of..."

Inconclusive evidence is nothing but evidence of inconclusivity.
You do not seem to understand evidence. Inconclusive evidence of X is some evidence on the basis of which one should increase one's probabilistic assessment of X, but which is not enough on its own to establish X conclusively, i.e., beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
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