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TSwizzle

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No wonder Trump is in no hurry to help out Europe when it is in this state.

London’s West End was illuminated yesterday (February 27) as Ramadan Lights London returned for its third year, organised and sponsored by the Aziz Foundation in celebration of their 10th anniversary. This year’s edition was bigger, brighter, and more immersive than ever before. Hundreds gathered to watch the switch-on ceremony, including communities, celebrities, and dignitaries. Mayor of London Sir Sadiq Khan said: “It’s a privilege to switch on Ramadan Lights London in our capital for the third year in a row. This fantastic display in the heart of the West End has quickly become a very popular tradition and is a wonderful way to celebrate Ramadan. It’s also a clear symbol of how our capital celebrates our diversity, as we build a better London for everyone.” The evening began with a lantern parade led by local school children, followed by the switch-on of the new ‘Spread The Light’ installation in Leicester Square, inviting guests to take part in illuminating the city.

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Quite an eye opener.
 
So in regard to London "our capital celebrates its diversity", whilst in USA the capital is collapsing into being the centre of a theocratic dictatorial state. So which country is in demise
Europe doesn't need Trump's "help". That would be like saying a house owner needs an arsonist's help, or a town needs a serial killer's help, or that a well -run profitable company needs the "help" of a dysfunctional accountant.
It is USA that actually needs help, and this it will have to do for itself because it is beyond help from anyone else.
 
So in regard to London "our capital celebrates its diversity",

London and other major cities in England are headed in the opposite direction of diversity. It is becoming less diverse.

Europe doesn't need Trump's "help". That would be like saying a house owner needs an arsonist's help, or a town needs a serial killer's help, or that a well -run profitable company needs the "help" of a dysfunctional accountant.

It is becoming more obvious that Europe does need the USA help defend it.
 
Funny, I don't recall your thread bemoaning Europe's demise when London was lit up for Christmas a few months ago.

Are coloured lights celebrating religious festivals always a sign of impending doom in your view?

Regent Street has had Christmas light displays since 1954, without obvious ill-effect on the entire continent of Europe.
 
London and other major cities in England are headed in the opposite direction of diversity. It is becoming less diverse.
Bullshit.

https://www.london.gov.uk/events/diwali-square-2024

https://www.visitlondon.com/things-to-do/whats-on/christmas/best-christmas-lights-in-london

https://www.shinnyoenuk.org/lantern-floating-festival

https://www.london.gov.uk/events/chanukah-square-2024

All those Sikh Musilms, Christian Muslims, Shinto Muslims, and Jewish Muslims are creating a monoculture in London!!1!!one!
 
Funny, I don't recall your thread bemoaning Europe's demise when London was lit up for Christmas a few months ago.

Are coloured lights celebrating religious festivals always a sign of impending doom in your view?

Regent Street has had Christmas light displays since 1954, without obvious ill-effect on the entire continent of Europe.
There, there. TSwizzle was condemning the trend AGAINST diversity. I think most godly Americans are happy to tolerate all three major religions: the Methodists, the Southern Baptists AND the Evangelical Lutherans.
 
Funny, I don't recall your thread bemoaning Europe's demise when London was lit up for Christmas a few months ago.

Are coloured lights celebrating religious festivals always a sign of impending doom in your view?

Regent Street has had Christmas light displays since 1954, without obvious ill-effect on the entire continent of Europe.
The demise in his view is Hitler losing and the browns being allowed in as a result. The Third Reich indeed did meet its demise. I can see how that is a sad state of affairs for its supporters, and also why Trump doesn't want anything to do with Europe as a result and instead prefers Russia's vision. The last bastion of hope for a return to Third Reich like politics.
 
London and other major cities in England are headed in the opposite direction of diversity. It is becoming less diverse.
Bullshit.

https://www.london.gov.uk/events/diwali-square-2024

https://www.visitlondon.com/things-to-do/whats-on/christmas/best-christmas-lights-in-london

https://www.shinnyoenuk.org/lantern-floating-festival

https://www.london.gov.uk/events/chanukah-square-2024

All those Sikh Musilms, Christian Muslims, Shinto Muslims, and Jewish Muslims are creating a monoculture in London!!1!!one!
Some of The finest Indian restaurants in the world are found in London. The Brits love their curry houses. Multi-culturism seems to have acquired deep roots and flourished there long before now.
 
I ate lunch at a halal cafeteria in Pittsburgh on Sunday after having supper at Trinidadian and Thai restaurants the two nights before that. This while visiting family up there that like spicy food. My Pakistani brother in-law is clearly part of a movement to destroy diversity and my white SIL is clearly brainwashed and enabling the movement.
 
Can you think of anything multicultural besides food and music that has had a positive influence on our societies?

I wonder how mixing people from different parts of the world had changed how we see things such as:
  • Our attitudes towards work and leisure
  • How we treat our family and friends
  • Religiosity
  • The role of government in people's lives
  • Tolerance of people who are different
  • Intellectualism
  • Social class
It's easy to point to something like Vietnamese food and say "that shit's amazing, and we wouldn't have that without Vietnamese immigrants".
But beyond a lack of good food, I wonder what trajectory my country would have taken if we had persisted with a whites-only - and therefore cultural homogeneous - immigration policy.
 
Most Europeans seem to disagree with most people here.


In our survey, carried out before President Trump’s executive order was announced, respondents were given the following statement: ‘All further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped’. They were then asked to what extent did they agree or disagree with this statement. Overall, across all 10 of the European countries an average of 55% agreed that all further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped, 25% neither agreed nor disagreed and 20% disagreed.


This^ is an interesting article about what's happening in Sweden. I'd post an excerpt, but any one paragraph would be misleading. What there appears to be in the subtext however, is that this violence began to erupt following 2015 when Sweden began taking in large numbers of Muslim immigrants. This year there were 27 bombings in 27 days to begin this new year. While these have been small time bombings, to play it down is ignoring what appears to be a burgeoning problem that can either be dealt with or ignored until it's impossible to contain.

People are fed up with the unreciprocated tolerance that Muslim immigrants bring to the nations taking them in. There's a difference between diversity and taking advantage of and abusing the well-intended liberal policies of diversity. When you emigrate to a new country, you should have the right to worship or not as you see fit, but you also have a responsibility to respect the common culture of your new nation and reasonably integrate into it.

With respect to the U.S.:

1. Is Trump POTUS again on this one issue alone? Of course not, but it was a contributing factor. Seeing people call Biden "Genocide Joe" in support of a violent and oppressive theocratic regime was outrageous. Just as the GOP attracts neo-Nazis, so the left appears to be attracting would-be Islamic authoritarians. Not a good look.

2. Yes, the U.S. is certainly dealing with its own burgeoning problem of religion becoming law, but it is possible to deal with the issue at hand rather than engaging in the leftist Whataboutism that has so long been a product of GOP/Trumpism.
 
Can you think of anything multicultural besides food and music that has had a positive influence on our societies?

I wonder how mixing people from different parts of the world had changed how we see things such as:
  • Our attitudes towards work and leisure
  • How we treat our family and friends
  • Religiosity
  • The role of government in people's lives
  • Tolerance of people who are different
  • Intellectualism
  • Social class
It's easy to point to something like Vietnamese food and say "that shit's amazing, and we wouldn't have that without Vietnamese immigrants".
But beyond a lack of good food, I wonder what trajectory my country would have taken if we had persisted with a whites-only - and therefore cultural homogeneous - immigration policy.
How about all the businesses started by immigrants, either first or second generation? Many of the world's most valuable companies were founded by immigrants in the US, raising wages and creating a lot of wealth.
 
Can you think of anything multicultural besides food and music that has had a positive influence on our societies?

I wonder how mixing people from different parts of the world had changed how we see things such as:
  • Our attitudes towards work and leisure
  • How we treat our family and friends
  • Religiosity
  • The role of government in people's lives
  • Tolerance of people who are different
  • Intellectualism
  • Social class
It's easy to point to something like Vietnamese food and say "that shit's amazing, and we wouldn't have that without Vietnamese immigrants".
But beyond a lack of good food, I wonder what trajectory my country would have taken if we had persisted with a whites-only - and therefore cultural homogeneous - immigration policy.
How about all the businesses started by immigrants, either first or second generation? Many of the world's most valuable companies were founded by immigrants in the US, raising wages and creating a lot of wealth.
Entrepreneurship. That's a good example. Thank you.
 
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But beyond a lack of good food, I wonder what trajectory my country would have taken if we had persisted with a whites-only - and therefore cultural homogeneous - immigration policy.
You are kidding, right? I mean, I seriously hope you are being ironical here. Because apart from the fact that the U.S. has NEVER been “whites-only,” it’s a well established fact that immigrants from ALL OVER the world have had a HUGELY beneficial impact on this nation, in every conceivable way, and I see that here every single day in New York City, where I am lucky enough to live.
 
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But beyond a lack of good food, I wonder what trajectory my country would have taken if we had persisted with a whites-only - and therefore cultural homogeneous - immigration policy.
You are kidding, right? I mean, I seriously hope you are being ironical here. Because apart from the fact that the U.S. has NEVER been “whites-only,” it’s a well established fact that immigrants from ALL OVER the world have had a HUGELY beneficial impact on this nation, in every conceivable way, and I see that here every single day in New York City, where I am lucky enough to live.
I meant the White Australia policy, and what Australia would be like now if we had kept that policy.
 
Can you think of anything multicultural besides food and music that has had a positive influence on our societies?

I wonder how mixing people from different parts of the world had changed how we see things such as:
  • Our attitudes towards work and leisure
  • How we treat our family and friends
  • Religiosity
  • The role of government in people's lives
  • Tolerance of people who are different
  • Intellectualism
  • Social class
It's easy to point to something like Vietnamese food and say "that shit's amazing, and we wouldn't have that without Vietnamese immigrants".
But beyond a lack of good food, I wonder what trajectory my country would have taken if we had persisted with a whites-only - and therefore cultural homogeneous - immigration policy.
How about all the businesses started by immigrants, either first or second generation? Many of the world's most valuable companies were founded by immigrants in the US, raising wages and creating a lot of wealth.
The focus of the OP is about illegal immigration. If one the world's most valuable companies was started by an illegal immigrant in the US, I would like to hear about it. Most people don't have a problem with legal immigration done according to our laws, in particular, TSwizzle, who is a legal immigrant to the US himself.
 
Can you think of anything multicultural besides food and music that has had a positive influence on our societies?

I wonder how mixing people from different parts of the world had changed how we see things such as:
  • Our attitudes towards work and leisure
  • How we treat our family and friends
  • Religiosity
  • The role of government in people's lives
  • Tolerance of people who are different
  • Intellectualism
  • Social class
It's easy to point to something like Vietnamese food and say "that shit's amazing, and we wouldn't have that without Vietnamese immigrants".
But beyond a lack of good food, I wonder what trajectory my country would have taken if we had persisted with a whites-only - and therefore cultural homogeneous - immigration policy.
How about all the businesses started by immigrants, either first or second generation? Many of the world's most valuable companies were founded by immigrants in the US, raising wages and creating a lot of wealth.
The focus of the OP is about illegal immigration. If one the world's most valuable companies was started by an illegal immigrant in the US, I would like to hear about it. Most people don't have a problem with legal immigration done according to our laws, in particular, TSwizzle, who is a legal immigrant to the US himself.
That distinction (illegal immigration) was not made in bigfield’s post.

But anyway, according to the Washington Post Musk did work illegally in the US. He denies that, but his denial could be one of the many things that he just got wrong. After all, no one can expect him to bat a thousand.
 
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