What is this thing that people call "God?'
Just use the atheist definition.
The reason that the atheist definition is so vague is because when we ask ten different Christians what they mean by God, we get twelve different answers, so it's impossible to nail down WTF anyone is talking about.
The one thing that can be agreed on, however, is that whatever the fuck it is people are referencing when using that word, it's really kind of stupid.
The reason that the atheist definition is so vague is because when we ask ten different Christians what they mean by God, we get twelve different answers, so it's impossible to nail down WTF anyone is talking about.
The one thing that can be agreed on, however, is that whatever the fuck it is people are referencing when using that word, it's really kind of stupid.
I don't think the atheist definition of what they don't believe in is vague.
God is the alpha and the omega. Surely that covers everything pan-atheism disbelieves in.
You’d think if there were an actual god who actually communicated, the christians would all be acquainted with the same one as each other.
God is the alpha and the omega. Surely that covers everything pan-atheism disbelieves in.
See, that’s just so over-the-top hollywood drama, you know?God is the alpha and the omega.
The reason that the atheist definition is so vague is because when we ask ten different Christians what they mean by God, we get twelve different answers, so it's impossible to nail down WTF anyone is talking about.
The one thing that can be agreed on, however, is that whatever the fuck it is people are referencing when using that word, it's really kind of stupid.
I don't think the atheist definition of what they don't believe in is vague.
God is the alpha and the omega. Surely that covers everything pan-atheism disbelieves in.
See, that's exactly what I'm talking about. You've defined it into meaninglessness. Your definition of God isn't even something to disbelieve in because you're not giving it any characteristics. Fortunately, most Christians aren't your sect of deist wannabes and make an attempt to do something other than troll people with nonsense statements and actually have a measure of intellectual integrity, so conversations can be had with them. They can get into specifics and those specifics can be shown to be baseless.
All powerful.
(Oh no Lion IRC. That's too vague.)
Ever living.
(Oh no Lion IRC. That's too vague.)
Creator of all that is seen and unseen.
(Oh no Lion IRC. That's too vague.)
How ironic that in this age of non-judgemental post-modernism and relativism, and where personal choice and ambiguity is worshipped, God is the one being commanded to emphatically declare Himself so that we can judge Him.
All powerful.
(Oh no Lion IRC. That's too vague.)
Ever living.
(Oh no Lion IRC. That's too vague.)
Creator of all that is seen and unseen.
(Oh no Lion IRC. That's too vague.)
How ironic that in this age of non-judgemental post-modernism and relativism, and where personal choice and ambiguity is worshipped, God is the one being commanded to emphatically declare Himself so that we can judge Him.
All powerful.
(Oh no Lion IRC. That's too vague.)
Ever living.
(Oh no Lion IRC. That's too vague.)
Creator of all that is seen and unseen.
(Oh no Lion IRC. That's too vague.)
How ironic that in this age of non-judgemental post-modernism and relativism, and where personal choice and ambiguity is worshipped, God is the one being commanded to emphatically declare Himself so that we can judge Him.
And you know what? I wish God would show up. I really do. No so that I could judge him, but for many reasons I could go on about. I would certainly appreciate the appearance. Outside of that though, it's your job to convince us of the existence of your god. By saying that he's all powerful, never dies, and creates everything, you're not accomplishing anything.
How ironic that in this age of non-judgemental post-modernism and relativism, and where personal choice and ambiguity is worshipped, God is the one being commanded to emphatically declare Himself so that we can judge Him.
I think there's an implicit 'If God Is Real' there, though.See I can't bring myself to "wish he would show up," because I can't dredge up even a single iota of feeling that anything outside of Lion's imagination even exists.
See, that's exactly what I'm talking about. You've defined it into meaninglessness. Your definition of God isn't even something to disbelieve in because you're not giving it any characteristics. Fortunately, most Christians aren't your sect of deist wannabes and make an attempt to do something other than troll people with nonsense statements and actually have a measure of intellectual integrity, so conversations can be had with them. They can get into specifics and those specifics can be shown to be baseless.
I think I hit a raw nerve.
Atheists disbelieve in 1,000 different types of God(s) and yet you want to quibble about the fine details of the biblical theist God?
Surely atheists, of all people, don't want to do that whole Courtiers Reply thing.
And when they pretend as if they do it turns out to be a gutless bait and switch.
You want to discuss to nature of God about as much as PZ Myers does.
Don't make me puke.
You don't make Jesus less relevant by talking about Him.
Well you go right on ahead and keep talking about Him if you want.
I think there's an implicit 'If God Is Real' there, though.I can't dredge up even a single iota of feeling that anything outside of Lion's imagination even exists.
If there really is/are God(s), I would really appreciate it if they would reveal themselves, to take the discussion out of the hands of
Aw, you don't accept a hypothetical for the sake of discussion, then let them suddenly reveal that it's a bait and switch? You're so heartles.I get stuck in this loop with them,