Forgery suspect killed by cop restricting his airway

[Derec]

 

[Deepak]

Did you suffer anoxia as a child? You speak by expelling air in the lungs.

And for that the airway must be open.

Let me step on your neck and I'll show you how someone can choke you into unconsciousness while you beg for help.

I'd like to see you try!

How profoundly stupid to think that this would create an airtight seal.

Your pronouncements don't convince anybody. What a ghoulish clown you are

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Every time there's a protest the thugs come out to get away with crimes they'd normally get in trouble for.

 

[Toni]

And yet, no revelation from you about the excessive force complaints on the nonwhite police officers. Hmmm.

How about you post a link if you have one? In the meantime, what do you think about George Floyd turning out to be an armed robber?

What relevance would the conviction for a crime committed 13 years ago have?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Every time there's a protest the thugs come out to get away with crimes they'd normally get in trouble for.

Yeah, criminals are like that.

 

[Toni]

You realize that an asthma attack can be fatal, right?

Which would mean natural causes, not a homicide.

An asthma attack precipitated by the knee to his neck is not ‘natural cause.’

The officer used a technique not allowed specifically because it is known to cause death.

Officers failing to acknowledge the medical distress expressed by the person that was in their custody?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

And yet, no revelation from you about the excessive force complaints on the nonwhite police officers. Hmmm.

How about you post a link if you have one? In the meantime, what do you think about George Floyd turning out to be an armed robber?

What relevance would the conviction for a crime committed 13 years ago have?

No cruel and unusual punishment. It is in the Bill of Rights! Guy can be an asshole, a criminal, we aren’t allowed to just kill them and say, ‘he ain’t no angel’.

How hard is this to understand?!

 

[repoman]

Damn, Derec, I am close to being a white nationalist/separatist and I don't have these crazy takes you have.

That cop deserve 10 years minimum of actual time served.

What is wrong with you?

Anyway, these cool rednecks are also referencing totally based rooftop Koreans

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1265839057994764288

 

[laughing dog]

And yet, no revelation from you about the excessive force complaints on the nonwhite police officers. Hmmm.

How about you post a link if you have one? In the meantime, what do you think about George Floyd turning out to be an armed robber?

I think the information is not relevant to this incident. Just like I think Mr. Floyd's past is not relevant to this incident. I think you looking for his criminal record is just another example of smearing the victim.

 

[laughing dog]

And yet, no revelation from you about the excessive force complaints on the nonwhite police officers. Hmmm.

How about you post a link if you have one? In the meantime, what do you think about George Floyd turning out to be an armed robber?

What relevance would the conviction for a crime committed 13 years ago have?

Especially one completely different than the alleged crime he was arrested for.

 

[Toni]

What relevance would the conviction for a crime committed 13 years ago have?

Especially one completely different than the alleged crime he was arrested for.

Note: The crime he was being arrested for in Minneapolis was a non-violent crime.

 

[Derec]

Just like I think Mr. Floyd's past is not relevant to this incident.

It is relevant as it tells us a lot about who George Floyd was as a person.
If it really were irrelevant, why do you think people with serious records are so over-represented among people killed by police?

I think you looking for his criminal record is just another example of smearing the victim.

"Smearing" implies a false accusation. He really was in prison for armed robbery.

 

[Derec]

Damn, Derec, I am close to being a white nationalist/separatist and I don't have these crazy takes you have.

Well I am not even close to being one. I would feel the same if the dead guy was white and the cop black. It's just that it would not have been nearly as big a news story.

That cop deserve 10 years minimum of actual time served.

We do not even have a cause of death yet. It is extremely premature to talk about an appropriate sentence.

It may turn out that the cop(s) should be charged with some crime. But first there needs to be an unbiased investigation.

Anyway, these cool rednecks are also referencing totally based rooftop Koreans

What is a "totally based rooftop Korean"?

 

[Derec]

An asthma attack precipitated by the knee to his neck is not ‘natural cause.’

Which would have to be determined at the autopsy. So why not wait for it?

The officer used a technique not allowed specifically because it is known to cause death.

So do tasers, and yet they are allowed.

Officers failing to acknowledge the medical distress expressed by the person that was in their custody?

It sucks, but is somewhat understandable given that many arrestees are faking it.

 

[Derec]

Misleading headline: the #BLMers are rioting, not protesting.

Black Lives Matter demonstrators march through downtown LA in protest of George Floyd death

 

[Derec]

Others are "protesting" the death of George Floyd by stealing TVs.

Looting and fires break out after protests in Minneapolis following death of George Floyd


Reminds me of this cartoon about Ferguson.


The thing is. All the Ferguson/Baltimore/Milwaukee/Minneapolis/Charlotte riots of 2014-2016 I think contributed significantly to Trump getting elected. Is history going to repeat itself in 2020?

 

[Trausti]

Misleading headline: the #BLMers are rioting, not protesting.

Black Lives Matter demonstrators march through downtown LA in protest of George Floyd death

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Conspiracy Theory 2020: BLM colludes with the Trump campaign to assure MAGA re-election. It's the election twist you'd never thought could happen, twice.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Wow racist caricatures in a thread about a black guy's murder and even a Stormfronter admits Derec goes too far.

Now I've seen everything.

 

[Derec]

Wow racist caricatures

What "racist" caricatures?

 

[Arctish]

Slate has an article on the difficulty of holding police accountable for the use of excessive force:

The Supreme Court Broke Police Accountability. Now It Has the Chance to Fix It.

The video of George Floyd’s death that emerged on Tuesday is both shocking and distressingly familiar. Floyd, a 46-year-old black man, is lying on the ground as a white police officer pins him to the ground by the neck. We hear Floyd begging the officer to stop, telling him repeatedly: “I cannot breathe.” But the officer does not let up, and his colleagues taunt Floyd as he dies. “You having fun?” one asks. “You a tough guy,” another says. “Tough guy, huh?” After killing Floyd, the officers falsely claimed he had “physically resisted officers,” necessitating their brutal response.

We’ve seen this before, over and over and over again: police officers, usually white, killing black people who pose no threat to their safety. Although we have only recently begun to witness these executions ourselves thanks to smartphones, they are not a new phenomenon. For as long as law enforcement has existed in the United States, white officers have murdered black people. After the Civil War, Congress sought to address the problem by letting victims and their families sue abusive government officials. But the Supreme Court has butchered that law to prevent countless victims of police brutality from seeking justice through one of the only state-sanctioned avenues available to them. At their conference on Thursday, the justices will have an opportunity to begin unraveling the catastrophic case law that allows so many officers—including, apparently, Floyd’s killers—to murder civilians with impunity. The court has an obligation to fix what it broke.

IMO the most shocking part was this:

The fight against out-of-control qualified immunity has produced a flood of appeals that force SCOTUS to confront the consequences of its own handiwork. On May 18, the court turned away three of these appeals, including a jaw-dropping case in which police were granted qualified immunity after literally stealing $225,000. (There is no clearly established right not to be robbed by cops, the court held.) But there are still 10 on the docket. These cases include:

• Baxter v. Bracey, in which two officers received qualified immunity after siccing their police dog on a suspect who had surrendered and was sitting on the ground with his hands up.

• Corbitt v. Vickers, in which a police officer received qualified immunity after barging into a family’s yard, shooting a 10-year-old child who was lying on the ground, and attempting to shoot a docile dog who posed no threat.

• Cooper v. Flaig, in which police officers received qualified immunity after using a stun gun on an unarmed black man nine times while he was undergoing a mental health episode, killing him. The officers continued to stun the victim while he lay face down on the floor with his hands cuffed behind his back. They laughed as he died in front of them.

Granted, the author is painting a very stark picture, perhaps too stark, but other sources I've looked at back up his claims of fact. .