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Freddie Gray dies a week after being injured during arrest

Definitely on the scale of badness "dying in police custody" ought to rank higher than "naming a youth center after the guy that died in police custody".

But I'm a socialist so what do I know?
 
Derec said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Of course, being negligent to allow a person in your custody to die... seems like a worse mistake.
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Maybe Freddie just forgot his safe word. #50ShadesOfFreddieGray
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The hashtag makes no sense because Gray wasn't restrained.

Right-Winger Comedic Deficiency Syndrome - Thinking merely referencing something else automatically makes it funny.
 
ZiprHead said:
Do they (legal teams) interview jury members to see where the problem was? That doesn't seem fair to me.
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No, they are under a gag order.

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Jimmy Higgins said:
Derec said:
Is it state law or judge's discretion to not release the breakdown to the public? Because when the trial of the Jonathan Ferrell killing ended in mistrial the breakdown (8-4 in favor of acquittal) was made public.
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They aren't done yet. The mistrial was announced yesterday. Get your knickers out of a bunch.
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The judge's discretion. He issued a gag order.
 
Mosby is a disgrace, just one more in the long line of disgraceful prosecutors.
 
maxparrish said:
Mosby is a disgrace, just one more in the long line of disgraceful prosecutors.
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How do you figure that? Don't worry, Max, she is going to get the culprits. You seem awful okay with the the cops killing Freddie. Why is that? Why is this prosecutor a disgrace? Because you do not believe in justice for black people when they are abused by cops. It is your attitude that the BLM movement is responding to. The fact that there are a lot of white people who share your thinking is the problem. This guy Freddie was killed. You seem to be forgetting that...as if it should be a normal event for cops to break a black guy's back then ignore him in his death throes. Do you know if Freddie actually committed any particular crime to get himself arrested? Or was his main crime just being black, poor, and uneducated?
 
Trausti said:
maxparrish said:
Mosby is a disgrace, just one more in the long line of disgraceful prosecutors.
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And she got her comeuppance. Her ploy to railroad six cops for future political gain is collapsing. Hurrah. Enjoy the moment.
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I think you also seem to think it is okay to kill black men with excessive roughness. You really need to realize that cops are not ALWAYS RIGHT. These cops killed Freddie. Unless you can tell me a very good reason for that happening, perhaps you should not crow so loud.
 
arkirk said:
Trausti said:
And she got her comeuppance. Her ploy to railroad six cops for future political gain is collapsing. Hurrah. Enjoy the moment.
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I think you also seem to think it is okay to kill black men with excessive roughness. You really need to realize that cops are not ALWAYS RIGHT. These cops killed Freddie. Unless you can tell me a very good reason for that happening, perhaps you should not crow so loud.
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Qué? You think it's okay for a prosecutor to use the power of state peril to haul people into court to advance a political agenda? From the start it was publicity über alles for this prosecutor, regardless of the embarrassingly weak cases against the cops. There was clearly a rush to charge. Now it's all falling apart. Good. I hope her career is ruined.
 
Trausti said:
arkirk said:
I think you also seem to think it is okay to kill black men with excessive roughness. You really need to realize that cops are not ALWAYS RIGHT. These cops killed Freddie. Unless you can tell me a very good reason for that happening, perhaps you should not crow so loud.
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Qué? You think it's okay for a prosecutor to use the power of state peril to haul people into court to advance a political agenda? From the start it was publicity über alles for this prosecutor, regardless of the embarrassingly weak cases against the cops. There was clearly a rush to charge. Now it's all falling apart. Good. I hope her career is ruined.
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Actually it is a very strong case against the cops. Freddie was alive and fine when he went into the van. He had a crushed spine when he came out.
 
Nice Squirrel said:
Trausti said:
Qué? You think it's okay for a prosecutor to use the power of state peril to haul people into court to advance a political agenda? From the start it was publicity über alles for this prosecutor, regardless of the embarrassingly weak cases against the cops. There was clearly a rush to charge. Now it's all falling apart. Good. I hope her career is ruined.
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Actually it is a very strong case against the cops. Freddie was alive and fine when he went into the van. He had a crushed spine when he came out.
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If they actually killed him, don't you think they did something wrong? Why would you not want justice for Freddie? I don't understand what Truasti seems to want. He just thinks that if it is in court and it is a woman DA she automatically should lose. I am not a fan of the idea that we should be competing in a court over justice. We should all be wanting it. I think Truasti need to splain this thing to me? Why no justice for this young black man who was killed due to ill willed mistreatment in the back of a cop van. He looked in bad shape before he was even put in the van. This case is about treatment that nobody should be experiencing in America, so quit tap dancing around the truth. When you say the woman is a disgrace, I feel she is never as much disgrace as people who accept murder in police custody for anybody black or white.
 
More left-wing hysteria: a hung jury is just like a lynching.
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Derec said:
More left-wing hysteria: a hung jury is just like a lynching.
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While the victim wasn't lynched he did needlessly die in police custody. I'm not certain why this needs to be repeated. If he was restrained, his family wouldn't have had a large cash payout and he'd be alive.

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Trausti said:
arkirk said:
I think you also seem to think it is okay to kill black men with excessive roughness. You really need to realize that cops are not ALWAYS RIGHT. These cops killed Freddie. Unless you can tell me a very good reason for that happening, perhaps you should not crow so loud.
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Qué? You think it's okay for a prosecutor to use the power of state peril to haul people into court to advance a political agenda?
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So holding the Police responsible for the needless death of someone in their custody is now a "political agenda"? I thought that would be their job?
 
Nice Squirrel said:
Trausti said:
Qué? You think it's okay for a prosecutor to use the power of state peril to haul people into court to advance a political agenda? From the start it was publicity über alles for this prosecutor, regardless of the embarrassingly weak cases against the cops. There was clearly a rush to charge. Now it's all falling apart. Good. I hope her career is ruined.
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Actually it is a very strong case against the cops. Freddie was alive and fine when he went into the van. He had a crushed spine when he came out.
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Except we have evidence that he was faking injuries. Maybe he tried to make something that looked real and succeeded too well.
 
Nice Squirrel said:
Trausti said:
Qué? You think it's okay for a prosecutor to use the power of state peril to haul people into court to advance a political agenda? From the start it was publicity über alles for this prosecutor, regardless of the embarrassingly weak cases against the cops. There was clearly a rush to charge. Now it's all falling apart. Good. I hope her career is ruined.
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Actually it is a very strong case against the cops. Freddie was alive and fine when he went into the van. He had a crushed spine when he came out.
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So how does that make a strong case against the bike cops? And that he died while in custody doesn't mean the police did anything wrong. It seems quite probable that, given the type of fatal injury, he did it to himself. The video of him before being placed in the van definitely shows his proclivity to melodrama. He's the boy who cried wolf.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Nice Squirrel said:
Actually it is a very strong case against the cops. Freddie was alive and fine when he went into the van. He had a crushed spine when he came out.
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Except we have evidence that he was faking injuries. Maybe he tried to make something that looked real and succeeded too well.
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And maybe god broke his neck...

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Trausti said:
Nice Squirrel said:
Actually it is a very strong case against the cops. Freddie was alive and fine when he went into the van. He had a crushed spine when he came out.
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So how does that make a strong case against the bike cops? And that he died while in custody doesn't mean the police did anything wrong. It seems quite probable that, given the type of fatal injury, he did it to himself. The video of him before being placed in the van definitely shows his proclivity to melodrama. He's the boy who cried wolf.
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Is there any evidence he suffered a single sustained injury?
 
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