Free Speech and Trump Statements

[SLD]

So free speech doesn't apply to "fake news" as he defines it.

This was a more recent video from four days ago. But I was looking for other similar such statements made before Kirk was assassinated. Quotes or videos. Post them here. I want to build a database basically of them.

 

[barbos]

What's the point? Trump contradicts himself every 10 minutes.

 

[Patooka]

What's the point? Trump contradicts himself every 10 minutes.

I agree. But I also agreed with Ted Cruz so it's a strange fucking week for me. I wish I still drank so that could explain it.

barbos is still right, however.

 

[ideologyhunter]

It's heartening that FCC chair Brendan Carr's statements about Kimmel were so extreme and Orwellian that there was -- at last -- some pushback from Trump's party, notably Ted Cruz. But there's not nearly enough discussion of the toxic notions Trump is trying out on his base. Here he is saying that if a President has enough popularity with voters, that "negative reporting" is "illegal". Illegal! What a sinister idea to come from a President. He's also said that Kimmel's anti-Trump monologues constitute an illegal campaign contribution to Democrats, which is beyond absurd and should be abhorrent to any American with an understanding of our Constitution. It is no hyperbole at all to state that this administration is taking a wrecking ball to democracy. Trump is letting us know in explicit language that he is not done suing media when he doesn't like the coverage and attempting to condition the free press to his own political agenda. He's going places that Nixon never dreamed of going, with the backing of a party and a SCOTUS which have given him the means and the immunity to do it. I never thought I could loathe a public figure to this extent, but this addled old dotard seems determined to refashion the government to his greedy and tyrannical ends. Our former allies and especially our neighbors to the north watch us succumbing to all this and wonder at how far we've fallen.

 

[bilby]

The Trump administration is using boa constrictor tactics. They need not concern themselves with resistance; They just tighten their grip until resistance starts, and then stop and wait for their victim to relax.

A boa constrictor doesn't use physical strength to kill its prey; It just remorselessy takes up the slack, every time its prey pauses for breath.

If there's pushback, back down just a tiny bit. Then come back next month and squeeze just a little harder. Eventually all resistance is crushed, and the victim is left wondering how they got there.

 

[Elixir]

The Trump administration is using boa constrictor tactics. They need not concern themselves with resistance; They just tighten their grip until resistance starts, and then stop and wait for their victim to relax.

If a boa constrictor has an animal in its coils and you cut off its head, does the body relax, or tighten its coils?

 

[crazyfingers]

Trump, Vance, the whole cabal is trying to incite violence. They are malevolent.

 

[SLD]

The Trump administration is using boa constrictor tactics. They need not concern themselves with resistance; They just tighten their grip until resistance starts, and then stop and wait for their victim to relax.

A boa constrictor doesn't use physical strength to kill its prey; It just remorselessy takes up the slack, every time its prey pauses for breath.

If there's pushback, back down just a tiny bit. Then come back next month and squeeze just a little harder. Eventually all resistance is crushed, and the victim is left wondering how they got there.

Precisely. I've heard such bizarre contortionist talk by conservative friends justifying these statements and actions. Ohhh, it's just trump. He doesn't mean it. You're just suffering from TDS. Others claim that Biden was worse for pressuring google to stop COVID misinformation and Twitter internal documents regarding hunter biden's laptop - BEFORE Biden was elected.

We are heading down the same path of many other Democratic Republics I fear - is it inevitable that they end in chaos and authoritarianism? Athens, Rome, Venice, Italy in the 20's, Weimar Germany, more recently, Russia, others as well.

I don't think they have to. We can chose to make democracy great again. But I fear it is too late. Indeed it was too late after the election of Ronald Reagan. I still blame him and his policies for where we've headed in the last 40 years. The only thing that can save us is a serious economic downturn so that the country totally repudiates the Republican Party and its bullshit philosophy in its entirety.

Delanda est GOP.

 

[Tigers!]

What's the point? Trump contradicts himself every 10 minutes.

10 minutes is overly generous. His next statement too often contradicts the previous one.

 

[Tigers!]

What's the point? Trump contradicts himself every 10 minutes.

I agree. But I also agreed with Ted Cruz so it's a strange fucking week for me. I wish I still drank so that could explain it.

barbos is still right, however.

I have agreed twice with Barbos (on different topics) this last 2 weeks.
Perhaps the alt-reality is finally getting to me.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Look, if conservatives were funny and TV executives thought they could make money with conservative comedians hosting late night shows I’m sure those shows would exist.

 

[thebeave]

Look, if conservatives were funny and TV executives thought they could make money with conservative comedians hosting late night shows I’m sure those shows would exist.

Late Night Ratings Revealed: Who’s Top & Who’s Lagging Behind?

The biggest ratings winner, however, was Fox News’ Gutfeld! in the 10 pm slot. The show, which takes a satirical look at the weekly news with a panel of comedians and political commentators, averaged 3.289 million viewers for the second quarter and 238,000 in the demo.

 

[bilby]

Look, if conservatives were funny...

I like a wild speculation as much as anyone, but really, this hypothetical is beyond absurd.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Look, if conservatives were funny and TV executives thought they could make money with conservative comedians hosting late night shows I’m sure those shows would exist.

Late Night Ratings Revealed: Who’s Top & Who’s Lagging Behind?

The biggest ratings winner, however, was Fox News’ Gutfeld! in the 10 pm slot. The show, which takes a satirical look at the weekly news with a panel of comedians and political commentators, averaged 3.289 million viewers for the second quarter and 238,000 in the demo.

Well, there you go! Not in direct competition since it is on an hour earlier, but good for them. Free speech!!

Edited to add: this is a cable show though, right?

 

[Shadowy Man]

Look, if conservatives were funny and TV executives thought they could make money with conservative comedians hosting late night shows I’m sure those shows would exist.

Late Night Ratings Revealed: Who’s Top & Who’s Lagging Behind?

The biggest ratings winner, however, was Fox News’ Gutfeld! in the 10 pm slot. The show, which takes a satirical look at the weekly news with a panel of comedians and political commentators, averaged 3.289 million viewers for the second quarter and 238,000 in the demo.

So out of curiosity I pulled up YouTube and I made it three minutes into this gutfeld episode:



I didn’t find it particularly funny, which I guess was to be expected, but neither did his audience it seemed. The laughter was anemic at best and a few jokes landed with no laughter at all. Just watch if and tell me if you think he was getting big laughs. He wasn’t.

Not sure why the ratings would be so high. I guess being earlier helps get those people who go to bed before the network late night shows come on.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

FBI Director Kash Patel fires trainee agent who displayed gay pride flag: reports

Patel allegedly referred to the flag as an ‘inappropriate display of political signage’

www.the-independent.com

Fired for free speech.

 

[SLD]

FBI Director Kash Patel fires trainee agent who displayed gay pride flag: reports

Patel allegedly referred to the flag as an ‘inappropriate display of political signage’

www.the-independent.com

Fired for free speech.

Happening all over.

 

[ZiprHead]

NSFW Language.

 

[Elixir]

NSFW

I don’t like the idea of actively goading ICE goons. Believe me, they don’t give any significant fraction of a fuck what anyone says or thinks.
These are just people clinging to their crowd mgmt and situational awareness training, hoping that if shit gets out of control they can escape blame.
It’s the top of the command structure that is the fascist arm.

 

[ZiprHead]

ICE detains British journalist after criticism of Israel on US tour

Trump ally Laura Loomer took credit for Sami Hamdi’s detainment in move denounced as ‘affront to free speech’

www.theguardian.com

British journalist Sami Hamdi was reportedly detained on Sunday morning by federal immigration authorities at San Francisco international airport, and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (Cair) says that action is apparent retaliation for the Muslim political commentator’s criticism of Israel while touring the US.

A statement from Cair said it was “a blatant affront to free speech” to detain Hamdi for criticizing Israel’s ongoing military campaign in Gaza while he engaged on a speaking tour in the US. A Trump administration official added in a separate statement that Hamdi is facing deportation.


“Our attorneys and partners are working to address this injustice,” Cair’s statement said. The statement also called on US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) “to immediately account for and release Mr Hamdi”, saying his only “‘crime’ is criticizing a foreign government” that Cair accused of having “committed genocide”.

The press secretary for the Department of Homeland Security, Tricia McLaughlin, wrote of Hamdi in a social media post: “This individual’s visa was revoked, and he is in ICE custody pending removal”.

McLaughlin’s post also said: “Those who support terrorism and undermine American national security will not be allowed to work or visit this country.”