George Floyd murderer's trial

[bilby]

I know one thing, cities are more unsafe today than they have ever been.

Then you know nothing.

Cities are FAR safer now than they were fifty years ago, and fifty years ago they were FAR safer than they were five hundred years ago.

If you “know” that cities are more unsafe today than they have ever been, then your problem is sensationalist media, not actual crime.

 

[ZiprHead]

Nearly $1.5 million settlement approved for correctional officers of color who were barred from guarding Derek Chauvin | CNN

The Ramsey County Board of Commissioners in Minnesota on Tuesday approved a nearly $1.5 million settlement agreement for eight correctional officers of color who were barred from guarding former police officer Derek Chauvin in 2020.

www.cnn.com

(CNN)The Ramsey County Board of Commissioners in Minnesota on Tuesday approved a nearly $1.5 million settlement agreement for eight correctional officers of color who were barred from guarding former police officer Derek Chauvin in 2020.
The correctional officers claimed in a lawsuit last year that the Ramsey County Adult Detention Center prohibited them from "interacting with or guarding Chauvin," who is White, "or going anywhere" on the floor where he was held in what the suit called a "segregation" order given by the detention center's superintendent, Steve Lydon.
CNN has reached out to the Ramsey County Sheriff's Office, which runs the detention center, for comment but has not received a response.

 

[Oleg]

Cities are FAR safer now than they were fifty years ago,

Probably. 50 years ago we enjoyed the benefit of progressive soft-on-crime polices; when downtown Manhattan went from Breakfast at Tiffany’s to Taxi Driver. Now we’ve got the new wave of progressive pro-criminal policies. Time will tell.

 

[Gospel]

Nearly $1.5 million settlement approved for correctional officers of color who were barred from guarding Derek Chauvin | CNN

The Ramsey County Board of Commissioners in Minnesota on Tuesday approved a nearly $1.5 million settlement agreement for eight correctional officers of color who were barred from guarding former police officer Derek Chauvin in 2020.

www.cnn.com

(CNN)The Ramsey County Board of Commissioners in Minnesota on Tuesday approved a nearly $1.5 million settlement agreement for eight correctional officers of color who were barred from guarding former police officer Derek Chauvin in 2020.
The correctional officers claimed in a lawsuit last year that the Ramsey County Adult Detention Center prohibited them from "interacting with or guarding Chauvin," who is White, "or going anywhere" on the floor where he was held in what the suit called a "segregation" order given by the detention center's superintendent, Steve Lydon.
CNN has reached out to the Ramsey County Sheriff's Office, which runs the detention center, for comment but has not received a response.

Oh look, it's the police costing the tax payer's money again. I bet across the country we spend around 300 million a year on law enforcement claim settlements. If that money was instead given to poverty stricken communities like Beattyville Kentucky we can give each person who lives there $200,000.00 and then another community the next year. Like Riverdale Chicago where they'd get 30 thousand per resident. Or we can let it accumulate for 10 years and spread roughly 3 billion dollars to Riverdale giving each citizen $300,000.00. If only we had an incentive to lower claim settlements and do something better with our tax money like, combat poverty which in turn decreases violent crimes which in turn decreases police misconduct. But that's just socialist talk. If you aint earn it F'off is our motto.

 

[ZiprHead]

Derek Chauvin, the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[ZiprHead]

George Floyd's family is suing Kanye West for $250,000 for repeatedly saying Floyd died from fentanyl.

 

[Oleg]

George Floyd's family is suing Kanye West for $250,000 for repeatedly saying Floyd died from fentanyl.

At the obvious risk of re-opening up this can of worms, it's interesing that the county medical examiner did not dismiss the fentanyl as a cause of death. He even wrote that the level of fentanyl in Floyd was "fatal under normal circumstances." The suit against Ye is probably going nowhere. https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12646/ExhibitMtD08282020.pdf

 

[Gospel]

Oh look, Oleg is already drowning in bullshit, it won't matter if I hold his head down so he can't come up for air right?

 

[Oleg]

Oh look, Oleg is already drowning in bullshit, it won't matter if I hold his head down so he can't come up for air right?

What bullshit? I gave you the link, FFS. But let's get your fentanyl blood level to 11 ng/ML and see how you do.

 

[Jarhyn]

When someone dies because of a compounding condition, such as (drugs) and (being attacked and strangled/choked), one normally still looks at which actions whoever might have taken to prevent the outcome.

It is uncertain whether being choked for that long would kill someone without drugs.

It is fairly certain that whatever quantity of drugs Floyd was on wasn't actually going to kill him.

We ought not let someone off the hook for running over a dying man just because "he was dying anyway".

 

[Oleg]

When someone dies because of a compounding condition, such as (drugs) and (being attacked and strangled/choked), one normally still looks at which actions whoever might have taken to prevent the outcome.

It is uncertain whether being choked for that long would kill someone without drugs.

It is fairly certain that whatever quantity of drugs Floyd was on wasn't actually going to kill him.

We ought not let someone off the hook for running over a dying man just because "he was dying anyway".

You may be right that Floyd was so drugged up that any push would send him over. (The autopsy observed that he had edema in his lungs likely from the fentanyl.) But the issue that rescurected this thread is the suit against Ye for noting Floyd's fatally high fentanyl level.

 

[Gospel]

Oh look, Oleg is already drowning in bullshit, it won't matter if I hold his head down so he can't come up for air right?

What bullshit? I gave you the link, FFS. But let's get your fentanyl blood level to 11 ng/ML and see how you do.

r/whoosh. "I'm not saying this killed him" FFS. Look Oleg, my comment went over your head, it's all good. What I mean to say is that the officer's actions (well inaction) was not a form of medical treatment. He kneeled on an unconscious man in need of medical attention "FFS". Kneeled on him for an unreasonable amount of time. Don't they, do that for someone resisting arrest? Well, he wasn't resisting for a significant amount of time.

 

[Jarhyn]

When someone dies because of a compounding condition, such as (drugs) and (being attacked and strangled/choked), one normally still looks at which actions whoever might have taken to prevent the outcome.

It is uncertain whether being choked for that long would kill someone without drugs.

It is fairly certain that whatever quantity of drugs Floyd was on wasn't actually going to kill him.

We ought not let someone off the hook for running over a dying man just because "he was dying anyway".

You may be right that Floyd was so drugged up that any push would send him over. (The autopsy noted that he had edema in his lungs likely from the fentanyl.) But the issue that rescurected this thread is the suit against Ye for noting Floyd's fatally high fentanyl level.

Because there is no grounds for a truth claim that he was lethally dosed with fentanyl.

He died of strangulation, and because he died of that before he could possibly have an opportunity to die from fentanyl, there is no way to test that such a claim. It would almost literally be "beating a dead horse."

As such, making unsubstantiated and in fact unsubstabtiable claims about persons, even dead ones, is defamation.

 

[Oleg]

Oh look, Oleg is already drowning in bullshit, it won't matter if I hold his head down so he can't come up for air right?

What bullshit? I gave you the link, FFS. But let's get your fentanyl blood level to 11 ng/ML and see how you do.

r/whoosh. "I'm not saying this killed him" FFS. Look Oleg, my comment went over your head, it's all good. What I mean to say is that the officer's actions (well inaction) was not a form of medical treatment. He kneeled on an unconscious man in need of medical attention "FFS". Kneeled on him for an unreasonable amount of time. Don't they, do that for someone resisting arrest? Well, he wasn't resisting for a significant amount of time.

Are you denying that Floyd's level of blood fentanyl is usually fatal?

 

[Jarhyn]

Oh look, Oleg is already drowning in bullshit, it won't matter if I hold his head down so he can't come up for air right?

What bullshit? I gave you the link, FFS. But let's get your fentanyl blood level to 11 ng/ML and see how you do.

r/whoosh. "I'm not saying this killed him" FFS. Look Oleg, my comment went over your head, it's all good. What I mean to say is that the officer's actions (well inaction) was not a form of medical treatment. He kneeled on an unconscious man in need of medical attention "FFS". Kneeled on him for an unreasonable amount of time. Don't they, do that for someone resisting arrest? Well, he wasn't resisting for a significant amount of time.

Are you denying that Floyd's level of blood fentanyl is usually fatal?

"Usually" doesn't matter. It was factually not fatal for Floyd, the person in question. What WAS fatal was the strangulation.

 

[laughing dog]

When someone dies because of a compounding condition, such as (drugs) and (being attacked and strangled/choked), one normally still looks at which actions whoever might have taken to prevent the outcome.

It is uncertain whether being choked for that long would kill someone without drugs.

It is fairly certain that whatever quantity of drugs Floyd was on wasn't actually going to kill him.

We ought not let someone off the hook for running over a dying man just because "he was dying anyway".

You may be right that Floyd was so drugged up that any push would send him over. (The autopsy observed that he had edema in his lungs likely from the fentanyl.) But the issue that rescurected this thread is the suit against Ye for noting Floyd's fatally high fentanyl level.

Yes, but Mr. West's statement is factually incorrect. In other words, it is a lie.

 

[Patooka]

Medical examiners write everything down with regards to possible cause of death. It was one of the things right wingers kept on pearl clutching over with regards to Covid deaths. The phrase "level of fentanyl in Floyd was fatal under normal circumstances" can easily be disputed in court. Any medical examiner can poke holes in that statement.

 

[Jarhyn]

When someone dies because of a compounding condition, such as (drugs) and (being attacked and strangled/choked), one normally still looks at which actions whoever might have taken to prevent the outcome.

It is uncertain whether being choked for that long would kill someone without drugs.

It is fairly certain that whatever quantity of drugs Floyd was on wasn't actually going to kill him.

We ought not let someone off the hook for running over a dying man just because "he was dying anyway".

You may be right that Floyd was so drugged up that any push would send him over. (The autopsy observed that he had edema in his lungs likely from the fentanyl.) But the issue that rescurected this thread is the suit against Ye for noting Floyd's fatally high fentanyl level.

Yes, but Mr. West's statement is factually incorrect. In other words, it is a lie.

And repeating it even knowing it is a lie, having the lie put to it is...

 

[Oleg]

Because there is no grounds for a truth claim that he was lethally dosed with fentanyl.

He died of strangulation

Here's that thing. That was not the medical examiner's initial conclusion. The body politic did not like his original report and raised all hell. He was pesterd until he amended his report to appease the braying mob.

 

[laughing dog]

Because there is no grounds for a truth claim that he was lethally dosed with fentanyl.

He died of strangulation

Here's that thing. That was not the medical examiner's initial conclusion. The body politic did not like his original report and raised all hell. He was pesterd until he amended his report to appease the braying mob.

Please tell us whatever it is that you are drinking so we can avoid it.