How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

Balance is in the fact that China has NOT moved to invade Taiwan, destroy its infrastucture and murder its citizens.

.. while the US was doing nothing but objecting to their amassing hundreds of thousands of troops and war gear at the Ukrainian border, and lying about it being a "military exercise".
The mere fact that the Ukrainian people expressed their preference for a President that was not a Putin Puppet, was their only "crime".

So you understand why balance is necessary. Of course, China will not destroy Taiwan. It gets its chips from there.
Why US was not doing anything is because they wanted Russia to attack Ukraine, wanted to get Russia involved in a war.
In international politics, one should not do such crimes, because they have their repercussions.
Yeah, China at the moment is not doing anything about Taiwan, but one never knows what will happen in future.

You are false. Russia attacking Ukraine has been very bad for the US. It's doubled our rate of inflation. It will probably lead to the total republican takeover of the house, senate and presidency this November. What is your evidence that the US wants this war? You are making an assertion without evidence.

Yes, your war with Russia did not go the way you advertised it.

 

[barbos]

What is your evidence that the US wants this war?

You are fucking unbelievable. Fucking Elesnky agreed to all russian demands (pretty mild ones at that) in Istanbul. Then US sends Johnson and he orders him to fight.
You are fucking unbelievable.

 

[barbos]

Why US was not doing anything is because they wanted Russia to attack Ukraine, wanted to get Russia involved in a war.

That's simply ridiculous.

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Elensky agrees with aupmanyav.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Balance is in the fact that China has NOT moved to invade Taiwan, destroy its infrastucture and murder its citizens.

.. while the US was doing nothing but objecting to their amassing hundreds of thousands of troops and war gear at the Ukrainian border, and lying about it being a "military exercise".
The mere fact that the Ukrainian people expressed their preference for a President that was not a Putin Puppet, was their only "crime".

So you understand why balance is necessary. Of course, China will not destroy Taiwan. It gets its chips from there.
Why US was not doing anything is because they wanted Russia to attack Ukraine, wanted to get Russia involved in a war.
In international politics, one should not do such crimes, because they have their repercussions.
Yeah, China at the moment is not doing anything about Taiwan, but one never knows what will happen in future.

You are false. Russia attacking Ukraine has been very bad for the US. It's doubled our rate of inflation. It will probably lead to the total republican takeover of the house, senate and presidency this November. What is your evidence that the US wants this war? You are making an assertion without evidence.

Yes, your war with Russia did not go the way you advertised it.

Righttooo! We all thought that Ukraine would beat the shit out of your country! Quite surprising that you’ve lasted this long against a military so much larger than the Russian military.

 

[Harry Bosch]

What is your evidence that the US wants this war?

You are fucking unbelievable. Fucking Elesnky agreed to all russian demands (pretty mild ones at that) in Istanbul. Then US sends Johnson and he orders him to fight.
You are fucking unbelievable.

First off, what is your aversion to the letter Z? It’s very weird. The US and allies werent comfortable with the Istanbul talks because they would require the west to implement a no fly zone over Ukraine if the Russians were to invade Ukraine again. We don’t want war with Russia.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Balance is in the fact that China has NOT moved to invade Taiwan, destroy its infrastucture and murder its citizens.

.. while the US was doing nothing but objecting to their amassing hundreds of thousands of troops and war gear at the Ukrainian border, and lying about it being a "military exercise".
The mere fact that the Ukrainian people expressed their preference for a President that was not a Putin Puppet, was their only "crime".

So you understand why balance is necessary. Of course, China will not destroy Taiwan. It gets its chips from there.
Why US was not doing anything is because they wanted Russia to attack Ukraine, wanted to get Russia involved in a war.
In international politics, one should not do such crimes, because they have their repercussions.
Yeah, China at the moment is not doing anything about Taiwan, but one never knows what will happen in future.

Oh, stop watching conspiracy theory videos

Its just rediculous

 

[Elixir]

what is your aversion to the letter Z?

Well, after all they are ...
not z's right?

 

[aupmanyav]

What is your evidence that the US wants this war?

Supply of arms to Ukraine knowing well that it would not end the war but only escalate it. Perhaps US wants Russia to use bomb in Ukraine, so that it can ask other nations to completely boycott Russia. That may lead to more serious consequences.

 

[aupmanyav]

And he hasn’t even broken out the nukes yet.

That is perhaps what NATO wants. https://iidb.org/threads/how-should...vasion-of-ukraine.25317/page-777#post-1195988

 

[aupmanyav]

Oh, stop watching conspiracy theory videos.
Its just ridiculous.

I don't know, but Russia-Ukraine war is playing like that only, like a great conspiracy.

 

[Elixir]

And he hasn’t even broken out the nukes yet.

That is perhaps what NATO wants. https://iidb.org/threads/how-should...vasion-of-ukraine.25317/page-777#post-1195988

What are you smoking?

 

[aupmanyav]

First off, what is your aversion to the letter Z? It’s very weird. The US and allies weren't comfortable with the Istanbul talks because they would require the west to implement a no fly zone over Ukraine if the Russians were to invade Ukraine again. We don’t want war with Russia.

Again, proper noun. Various ways to spell or pronounce it. Yeah, you don't want a war with Russia, but you have no problem with Ukraine fighting a war with Russia. And that is why you are supplying arms to Ukraine - 'Go ahead, fight, and die'.

 

[Patooka]

What should I be apologizing for? I am just stating my views.

"I'm just asking questions". Maybe there is an idiomatic language barrier here but what you are doing is passive aggressive bullshit. Entertaining Putin's bad faith rationale for invading Ukraine is the literal definition of being an apologist. Ukraine is not a part of NATO and has never been a part of NATO. Using NATO as an excuse to invade is then horseshit. More importantly, Orban and Erdogan would have blocked Ukraine's admission into NATO forever if Putin left the country the fuck alone. There is no rational justification for Putin invading Ukraine. None.

Reports say that Ukraine is using those arms inside Russia.

You mean after they got invaded twice? Funny how that shit works.

 

[Patooka]

First off, what is your aversion to the letter Z? It’s very weird. The US and allies weren't comfortable with the Istanbul talks because they would require the west to implement a no fly zone over Ukraine if the Russians were to invade Ukraine again. We don’t want war with Russia.

Again, proper noun. Various ways to spell or pronounce it. Yeah, you don't want a war with Russia, but you have no problem with Ukraine fighting a war with Russia defending itself against any unprovoked attacks.

Seriously, dude. It's not that difficult to understand.

 

[aupmanyav]

What are you smoking?

I smoke three normal mild-type cigarettes a day as permitted by my wife.

 

[Elixir]

“I’m just a Hindu atheist”
“I’m not a Pacifist”
“Ukraine should talk”

How’s your Russian, Aupy?
Also - do Hindu atheists disbelieve in all gods or just Hindu gods?
Who is your least favorite Hindu god?

 

[aupmanyav]

.. fighting a war with Russia defending itself against any unprovoked attacks.

That is how West wants the Ukraine-Russia war to be understood.

 

[Patooka]

.. fighting a war with Russia defending itself against any unprovoked attacks.

That is how West wants the Ukraine-Russia war to be understood.

It's how anyone with basic cognitive reasoning understands it.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-11/4 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Unless "The West" comprises of over 135 countries, you are dead wrong.

 

[barbos]

Balance is in the fact that China has NOT moved to invade Taiwan, destroy its infrastucture and murder its citizens.

.. while the US was doing nothing but objecting to their amassing hundreds of thousands of troops and war gear at the Ukrainian border, and lying about it being a "military exercise".
The mere fact that the Ukrainian people expressed their preference for a President that was not a Putin Puppet, was their only "crime".

So you understand why balance is necessary. Of course, China will not destroy Taiwan. It gets its chips from there.
Why US was not doing anything is because they wanted Russia to attack Ukraine, wanted to get Russia involved in a war.
In international politics, one should not do such crimes, because they have their repercussions.
Yeah, China at the moment is not doing anything about Taiwan, but one never knows what will happen in future.

You are false. Russia attacking Ukraine has been very bad for the US. It's doubled our rate of inflation. It will probably lead to the total republican takeover of the house, senate and presidency this November. What is your evidence that the US wants this war? You are making an assertion without evidence.

Yes, your war with Russia did not go the way you advertised it.

Righttooo! We all thought that Ukraine would beat the shit out of your country! Quite surprising that you’ve lasted this long against a military so much larger than the Russian military.

That' was not your plan, You plan was to destroy Russia with sanctions. Hence sanctions, destruction of NordStream.
It failed spectacularly.

 

[aupmanyav]

How’s your Russian, Aupy?
Also - do Hindu atheists disbelieve in all gods or just Hindu gods?
Who is your least favorite Hindu god?

It extends to 'Dasvidanya' and 'Nyet', thanks to Mumbai film industry.
I am a strong atheist, so not even Hindu Gods and Goddesses for me.
Gods, Goddesses, messengers, soul, heaven, hell, judgment, deliverance, reincarnation, individuals, nations, wars, Earth and the Universe, all are illusions - 'maya'.
I follow Advaita philosophy of Hinduism (non-duality).