How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Loren Pechtel]

Russia invaded Ukraine because their economy is shit and having 40% of the world’s grain supply would help fix that.

Russia also invaded Ukraine because they thought it would be quick and easy.

I suspect they no longer think that; But it's too late now, they've painted themselves into a corner.

Yes, that was the plan. But It is you who is in the corner now. You can't win in Ukraine without starting WW3.

If your armed forces collapse it doesn't cause WWIII. If your economy collapses it doesn't cause WWIII.

Nobody's going to invade Russia. There simply is no reason for WWIII.

 

[ZiprHead]

Do you have any ideas?

I have. Get the hell out of Ukraine and Russia. You have no business there.

We aren't in Russia. And you get the hell out of Ukraine, you have no business there.

Ukraine IS Russia.

A dog is a cat.

Two can play that stupid game.

 

[ZiprHead]

It's a war between West and Russia. Ukraine is irrelevant. West does not care what happens to it, all they care is defeat of Russia one way or the other. Of course short of miracle, West is not going to achieve their goal.

If Ukraine is irrelevant then there's no reason for you to stay.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Russia invaded Ukraine because their economy is shit and having 40% of the world’s grain supply would help fix that.

Russia also invaded Ukraine because they thought it would be quick and easy.

I suspect they no longer think that; But it's too late now, they've painted themselves into a corner.

Yes, that was the plan. But It is you who is in the corner now. You can't win in Ukraine without starting WW3.

If your armed forces collapse it doesn't cause WWIII. If your economy collapses it doesn't cause WWIII.

Nobody's going to invade Russia. There simply is no reason for WWIII.

Invading Russia might win one a booby prize. Having to run Russia afterwards. A massive basket case.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Do you have any ideas?

I have. Get the hell out of Ukraine and Russia. You have no business there.

We aren't in Russia. And you get the hell out of Ukraine, you have no business there.

Ukraine IS Russia.

Ukraine is not Russia.

 

[barbos]

Do you have any ideas?

I have. Get the hell out of Ukraine and Russia. You have no business there.

We aren't in Russia. And you get the hell out of Ukraine, you have no business there.

Ukraine IS Russia.

Ukraine is not Russia.

But it was and will be again, soon.

 

[barbos]

Russia invaded Ukraine because their economy is shit and having 40% of the world’s grain supply would help fix that.

Russia also invaded Ukraine because they thought it would be quick and easy.

I suspect they no longer think that; But it's too late now, they've painted themselves into a corner.

Yes, that was the plan. But It is you who is in the corner now. You can't win in Ukraine without starting WW3.

If your armed forces collapse it doesn't cause WWIII. If your economy collapses it doesn't cause WWIII.

Nobody's going to invade Russia. There simply is no reason for WWIII.

Invading Russia might win one a booby prize. Having to run Russia afterwards. A massive basket case.

So far it has been for you.

 

[barbos]

It's a war between West and Russia. Ukraine is irrelevant. West does not care what happens to it, all they care is defeat of Russia one way or the other. Of course short of miracle, West is not going to achieve their goal.

If Ukraine is irrelevant then there's no reason for you to stay.

It's irrelevant for you. For us, we can't afford having it "independent"

 

[barbos]

Russia invaded Ukraine because their economy is shit and having 40% of the world’s grain supply would help fix that.

Russia also invaded Ukraine because they thought it would be quick and easy.

I suspect they no longer think that; But it's too late now, they've painted themselves into a corner.

Yes, that was the plan. But It is you who is in the corner now. You can't win in Ukraine without starting WW3.

If your armed forces collapse it doesn't cause WWIII. If your economy collapses it doesn't cause WWIII.

Nobody's going to invade Russia. There simply is no reason for WWIII.

Not now, but once Russia collapsed as a result of proxy war you would invade. It was the plan. Didn't work, but it was a plan.

 

[barbos]

Do you have any ideas?

I have. Get the hell out of Ukraine and Russia. You have no business there.

We aren't in Russia. And you get the hell out of Ukraine, you have no business there.

Ukraine IS Russia.

You wanting it to be doesn't make it so.

It is a simple historical fact.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Russia invaded Ukraine because their economy is shit and having 40% of the world’s grain supply would help fix that.

Russia also invaded Ukraine because they thought it would be quick and easy.

I suspect they no longer think that; But it's too late now, they've painted themselves into a corner.

Yes, that was the plan. But It is you who is in the corner now. You can't win in Ukraine without starting WW3.

If your armed forces collapse it doesn't cause WWIII. If your economy collapses it doesn't cause WWIII.

Nobody's going to invade Russia. There simply is no reason for WWIII.

Invading Russia might win one a booby prize. Having to run Russia afterwards. A massive basket case.

So far it has been for you.

Russia, half the population of the USA, one tenth the GDP. Russia's one big export, oil and gas, crippled by sanctions and boycotts. Monetary reserves almost exhausted. And expensive war Russia really cannot afford for long. Rampant corruption.

 

[barbos]

Russia invaded Ukraine because their economy is shit and having 40% of the world’s grain supply would help fix that.

Russia also invaded Ukraine because they thought it would be quick and easy.

I suspect they no longer think that; But it's too late now, they've painted themselves into a corner.

Yes, that was the plan. But It is you who is in the corner now. You can't win in Ukraine without starting WW3.

If your armed forces collapse it doesn't cause WWIII. If your economy collapses it doesn't cause WWIII.

Nobody's going to invade Russia. There simply is no reason for WWIII.

Invading Russia might win one a booby prize. Having to run Russia afterwards. A massive basket case.

So far it has been for you.

Russia, half the population of the USA, one tenth the GDP. Russia's one big export, oil and gas, crippled by sanctions and boycotts. Monetary reserves almost exhausted. And expensive war Russia really cannot afford for long. Rampant corruption.

Keep telling that to yourself.

 

[ZiprHead]

Do you have any ideas?

I have. Get the hell out of Ukraine and Russia. You have no business there.

We aren't in Russia. And you get the hell out of Ukraine, you have no business there.

Ukraine IS Russia.

Ukraine is not Russia.

But it was and will be again, soon.

There's more evidence that parts of Russia belong to Ukraine than your conjecture.

 

[ZiprHead]

It's a war between West and Russia. Ukraine is irrelevant. West does not care what happens to it, all they care is defeat of Russia one way or the other. Of course short of miracle, West is not going to achieve their goal.

If Ukraine is irrelevant then there's no reason for you to stay.

It's irrelevant for you. For us, we can't afford having it "independent"

Yes, you can. You're irrational fears make me wonder if you can show us on the doll where Ukraine hurt you.

 

[ZiprHead]

Russia invaded Ukraine because their economy is shit and having 40% of the world’s grain supply would help fix that.

Russia also invaded Ukraine because they thought it would be quick and easy.

I suspect they no longer think that; But it's too late now, they've painted themselves into a corner.

Yes, that was the plan. But It is you who is in the corner now. You can't win in Ukraine without starting WW3.

If your armed forces collapse it doesn't cause WWIII. If your economy collapses it doesn't cause WWIII.

Nobody's going to invade Russia. There simply is no reason for WWIII.

Not now, but once Russia collapsed as a result of proxy war you would invade. It was the plan. Didn't work, but it was a plan.

Citation?

 

[Elixir]

There are a couple of Pootey’s private beach properties that are nice. Other than that, nobody really wants that frozen shithole Country.

The fact that it sucks is a big reason why they’re so historically expansionist.

 

[barbos]

Russia invaded Ukraine because their economy is shit and having 40% of the world’s grain supply would help fix that.

Russia also invaded Ukraine because they thought it would be quick and easy.

I suspect they no longer think that; But it's too late now, they've painted themselves into a corner.

Yes, that was the plan. But It is you who is in the corner now. You can't win in Ukraine without starting WW3.

If your armed forces collapse it doesn't cause WWIII. If your economy collapses it doesn't cause WWIII.

Nobody's going to invade Russia. There simply is no reason for WWIII.

Not now, but once Russia collapsed as a result of proxy war you would invade. It was the plan. Didn't work, but it was a plan.

Citation?

Do you have any ideas?

I have. Get the hell out of Ukraine and Russia. You have no business there.

We aren't in Russia. And you get the hell out of Ukraine, you have no business there.

Ukraine IS Russia.

Ukraine is not Russia.

But it was and will be again, soon.

There's more evidence that parts of Russia belong to Ukraine than your conjecture.

You asked for citations? here is one.

 

[barbos]

Ukraine is Russia, it has never been independent country. It has always been part of Russia an/or Poland.
Their behavior for the last 30 and especially last 10 years is a proof that they are incapable to be independent.

 

[barbos]

Shit starting to move faster in Ukraine. Even Ukraine's cheerleaders such as Julian Röpcke are now saying that ukro-wehrmacht is in the process of slow collapse.

 

[ZiprHead]

Ukraine is Russia, it has never been independent country. It has always been part of Russia an/or Poland.
Their behavior for the last 30 and especially last 10 years is a proof that they are incapable to be independent.

It was independent before the Russian assholes invaded.