Henry-Finland
Member
I hope we could discuss this: The US-EU military help for Ukraine
The U.S. Army has 3,700 Abrams in storage in Arizona. Most of them are from U.S. Marines that does not use them anymore.
It would be cheaper to sell (a part ? of) them to Ukraine instead of scrapping them. They need to be partly updated.
Who would pay for that?
EU told a year ago, that they can't produce as much military equipment as UA needs. They also told that the EU has money for the ammo and what not.
What does this mean for the US taxpayer?
- US would get the scrap metal price(?) for all the needed equipment.
- US would get paid for the updating, the needed (US made) update equipment and the transportation. This means that there would be more job opportunities in US. And also more tax revenues.
![Abrams.jpg Abrams.jpg](https://iidb.org/data/attachments/45/45283-84f7a0b9a035922b050a9dbe5b92b335.jpg?hash=v19Mond05s)
The "old" cluster munitions that USA do not use
US has a stockpile of 5.5 million cluster munitions containing about 728.5 million submunitions.
The same with some airplanes.
Why does not the Biden administration do anything about this?
P.S. 90% of the 60 billion dollars that US gives to UA stays in USA.
Lend & Lease-contracts would be a very good deal for USA. Ukraine has announced that they do not care how they get their weapons: As a gift, loan or Lend & Lease-contract. The main thing is that they get the weapons.
"Give us the tools and we will do the work".
Do not take this as some kind of US-bashing. The politicians in EU are exactly the same; just running around like chickens in a chicken coop. I hope they will come to their senses and begin to cooperate - in EU, with USA and the rest of the democratic world.
The U.S. Army has 3,700 Abrams in storage in Arizona. Most of them are from U.S. Marines that does not use them anymore.
It would be cheaper to sell (a part ? of) them to Ukraine instead of scrapping them. They need to be partly updated.
Who would pay for that?
EU told a year ago, that they can't produce as much military equipment as UA needs. They also told that the EU has money for the ammo and what not.
What does this mean for the US taxpayer?
- US would get the scrap metal price(?) for all the needed equipment.
- US would get paid for the updating, the needed (US made) update equipment and the transportation. This means that there would be more job opportunities in US. And also more tax revenues.
![Abrams.jpg Abrams.jpg](https://iidb.org/data/attachments/45/45283-84f7a0b9a035922b050a9dbe5b92b335.jpg?hash=v19Mond05s)
The "old" cluster munitions that USA do not use
US has a stockpile of 5.5 million cluster munitions containing about 728.5 million submunitions.
The same with some airplanes.
Why does not the Biden administration do anything about this?
P.S. 90% of the 60 billion dollars that US gives to UA stays in USA.
Lend & Lease-contracts would be a very good deal for USA. Ukraine has announced that they do not care how they get their weapons: As a gift, loan or Lend & Lease-contract. The main thing is that they get the weapons.
"Give us the tools and we will do the work".
Do not take this as some kind of US-bashing. The politicians in EU are exactly the same; just running around like chickens in a chicken coop. I hope they will come to their senses and begin to cooperate - in EU, with USA and the rest of the democratic world.