How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Tigers!]

That was kinda the first thing that popped into my head. Why would anyone with her history and knowledge think that going to Russia is a good idea?

I have heard that muggings are common in Moscow. Of course, they are common in New York too if one is in a wrong area at a wrong time.

You were misinformed. Muggings are extremely rare in Moscow and even in Russia in general.

So that explains where Russia's is getting its Ukraine conscripts

What?

Muggers are sent to Ukraine to draw Ukrainian fire

 

[barbos]

We are ordinary citizens who oppose Russia and its invasion.

No, you are not. You were carefully brainwashed into thinking that.

 

[barbos]

That was kinda the first thing that popped into my head. Why would anyone with her history and knowledge think that going to Russia is a good idea?

I have heard that muggings are common in Moscow. Of course, they are common in New York too if one is in a wrong area at a wrong time.

You were misinformed. Muggings are extremely rare in Moscow and even in Russia in general.

So that explains where Russia's is getting its Ukraine conscripts

What?

Muggers are sent to Ukraine to draw Ukrainian fire

30 years ago there might have been some street crime, not anymore.

 

[bilby]

There's obviously less street crime, when the criminals are all busy running the country.

 

[barbos]

the criminals are all busy running the country.

As if you are somehow different.

 

[bilby]

the criminals are all busy running the country.

As if you are somehow different.

I am neither a criminal, nor running a country, so I am anyhow completely different.

 

[barbos]

the criminals are all busy running the country.

As if you are somehow different.

I am neither a criminal, nor running a country, so I am anyhow completely different.

You=West, obviously.

 

[bilby]

the criminals are all busy running the country.

As if you are somehow different.

I am neither a criminal, nor running a country, so I am anyhow completely different.

You=West, obviously.

I am 153° East of Greenwich. I am further East than the Far East.

 

[TomC]

the criminals are all busy running the country.

As if you are somehow different.

I am neither a criminal, nor running a country, so I am anyhow completely different.

You=West, obviously.

I am 153° East of Greenwich. I am further East than the Far East.

You're further left than California. By a lot.
And y'all can't really tell up from down.

And you're more Easter than the Vatican.
Whoa...

Tom

 

[TV and credit cards]

Status of Storm Shadow Use Within Russia

It is understood that although the UK wants to give Ukraine the freedom to do what they want with the long-range weapon, it requires consensus from allies, including the US, France and a third undisclosed Nato country. A government source stressed that the UK was not blaming the US for any delay, adding that such policy changes took time.

I reckon the US has some laborious assessment process it gets dragged through.

Status of JASSM Use for F-16s

A cadre of pro-Ukraine U.S. lawmakers has been pressing the administration to loosen restrictions on Kyiv’s ability to fire U.S.-supplied weapons into Russian territory. They argue that the U.S. should keep the momentum going after Ukrainian forces crossed the border into Russia on Aug. 6.

Probably a matter of when, not if. Does politics come into play? I'd like to think not but I stopped being naive about politics after Sandy Hook. Hopefully before the end of the year then.

And then... (my bold)

Once a frontrunner to be the Democratic nominee for vice president, Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona, a former Navy fighter pilot and NASA astronaut who now serves on the Senate Armed Services Committee, told a TV interviewer on Sunday that Ukraine’s successes in Kursk are a game-changer.

“About 130,000 Russians have had to leave their homes and, at this point in this conflict, I think the Ukrainians did something unpredictable that could really change the tide of how this conflict’s going to play out,” he said on the CBS program “Face the Nation” on Sunday.

When asked if he was okay with US-made missiles being used on Russian soil, he said that now he was.

“The Ukrainians were illegally attacked by Vladimir Putin,” Kelly said. “He is intentionally killing women, children, old people. It was an illegal invasion. This incursion... let’s characterize it that way for now. I don’t think the Ukrainians want to intentionally hold Russian territory for a long period... But, this really set Putin back on his heels.”

“Since the invasion, now, over two years ago, we have... periodically, as we should, reevaluate[d]... how we’re going to conduct ourselves with regards to the Ukrainians’ use of the security assistance that we provide them. And I think it’s appropriate to continue to look at what their needs are.”

A later guest on the same program, Republican Congressman Mike Turner of Ohio, who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, affirmed his support for Ukraine and agreed with Sen. Kelly in terms of loosening restrictions on arms sent to Kyiv.

“Those [restrictions] certainly are troublesome, and do result in a sort of status quo in what can be a game of attrition,” Turner said.

In other news, for some reason Modi is going to visit Kyiv. Maybe he's going to reaffirm his moral turpitude.
Betcha Russia attacks Kyiv shortly after he leaves.


Moral turpitude: An "act of baseness, vileness, or depravity in the private and social duties which a man owes to his fellowmen, or to society in general, contrary to the accepted and customary rule of right and duty between man and man."
-California Supreme Court, Chadwick v. State Bar (1989)

 

[barbos]

Another more recent video of an old man Ukro-SS was harrassing.
In it he shows his old ukro-passport from the time before US conducted Nazi revolt of 2014.
His daughter who was living in Russia took him to Russia and made him russian citizenship.

«100% у ВСУ»: дочь пропавшего в Курской области пенсионера заявила, что он в плену - Газета.Ru

Дочь пропавшего 73-летнего курянина Александра Григорьева, который стал героем ролика ВСУ, сообщила, что он живой, но находится в плену. До этого МВД Украины опубликовало видео с пенсионером, где тот рассказывает, как ночевал на обочине, и показывает украинский паспорт. Дочь узнала мужчину и...

www.gazeta.ru

 

[barbos]

the criminals are all busy running the country.

As if you are somehow different.

I am neither a criminal, nor running a country, so I am anyhow completely different.

You=West, obviously.

I am 153° East of Greenwich. I am further East than the Far East.

You're further left than California. By a lot.
And y'all can't really tell up from down.

And you're more Easter than the Vatican.
Whoa...

Tom

You are so West that you are in EuroVision.

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile MSM is starting to prepare to eventual collapse of Nazi invasion into Kursk Oblast.
Number of publications stating that it was stupid and irresponsible.

 

[Elixir]

NATO cannot attack anyone; It is a defensive alliance.

That needs to be tattooed on the back of Aupy’s hand.
He cannot seem to understand it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Meanwhile MSM is starting to prepare to eventual collapse of Nazi invasion into Kursk Oblast.

Yes and no. The surprise is that Russia has taken this long to not repel it yet. Ukraine isn't accomplishing much in Kursk... other than still actually being up there. Which is a surprise. Yes, I get it, Russia works on its own time line and are under no obligation to repel an invasion of their territory. But, most people were expecting Ukraine at best to run in, and then run back out. They remain very vulnerable, but the fact of the matter is, they still remain. Ukraine's actions aren't going to win them any Russian territory, but they do seem to be exposing just how impotent the Russian military apparently is.

Number of publications stating that it was stupid and irresponsible.

Meanwhile, I wonder what the locals in Kursk are thinking... regarding the relatively non-existent Russian military response.

 

[barbos]

The surprise is that Russia has taken this long to not repel it yet.

What would be the point to hurry up now? Nuclear plant now is safe from taking over by ukro-terrorists.
As I said before, the place was a desert with no military significance and that is why it was not really defended.
Elensky can go around and tell everybody how cool he is. But it does not impress anyone besides some idiots in the west.
Global majority is neither amused nor impressed. Chinese are actually mad becasue they were working hard to start negotiations.

Meanwhile, I wonder what the locals in Kursk are thinking... regarding the relatively non-existent Russian military response.

Well, registration on russian message boards is free.

 

[Elixir]

Meanwhile, I wonder what the locals in Kursk are thinking... regarding the relatively non-existent Russian military response.

Lulz. Probably thinking how stupid and irresponsible their goobermint is. But not gonna SAY it, no way.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Meanwhile, I wonder what the locals in Kursk are thinking... regarding the relatively non-existent Russian military response.

Lulz. Probably thinking how stupid and irresponsible their goobermint is. But not gonna SAY it, no way.

Certainly is an interesting question. Is there a level of indifference regarding Moscow and they aren't surprised or is there a sense of shock that Moscow hasn't seemingly done anything or is information held so tightly they don't realize what has happened?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The surprise is that Russia has taken this long to not repel it yet.

What would be the point to hurry up now?

Like I said, you'd come up with some reason. Your posts read more like a Elon Musk true believer and explaining why FSD isn't a complete fraud.

Nuclear plant now is safe from taking over by ukro-terrorists.
As I said before, the place was a desert with no military significance and that is why it was not really defended.

Certainly explains why Ukraine was able to get in. Ukraine was able to waltz in because there was almost no defense. But the question isn't about that, it is about why they are still there. I figured they'd been possibly wiped out or fled at this point.

Elensky can go around and tell everybody how cool he is. But it does not impress anyone besides some idiots in the west.
Global majority is neither amused not impressed. Chinese are actually mad becasue they were working hard to start negotiations.

None of that is relevant to the question of "Why is Ukraine STILL in Kursk". This incursion isn't going to lead to a Ukrainian conquering victory over Russia (though I will note, the Texas Revolution was won in a single battle). But it is really starting to feel like the awkward pause when a wife asks a husband something, and the excuse for the pause is becoming less and less benign.

Meanwhile, I wonder what the locals in Kursk are thinking... regarding the relatively non-existent Russian military response.

Well, registration on russian message boards is free.

Yes, and there are nothing but hot women on those 900 party numbers (yes, it is an old reference).

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile, I wonder what the locals in Kursk are thinking... regarding the relatively non-existent Russian military response.

Lulz. Probably thinking how stupid and irresponsible their goobermint is. But not gonna SAY it, no way.

Certainly is an interesting question. Is there a level of indifference regarding Moscow and they aren't surprised or is there a sense of shock that Moscow hasn't seemingly done anything or is information held so tightly they don't realize what has happened?

Get out of shit bubble of Western Neocon controlled narrative.
Russia has had more than fare share "humiliating" "defeats" from all kind of assholes who are now rotting in their unmarked prison graves. Noone in Russia is particularly impressed or humiliated. And most of the shit our finnish friend reposts is simply lies.