How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Harry Bosch]

South Korea is warming up to sending arms and potentially troops (long shot) to Ukraine as a result of North Korea sending troops to Ukraine:

MSN

Great news!

 

[barbos]

South Koreans are notorious BSers when it comes to their NK business.

 

[Harry Bosch]

South Koreans are notorious BSers when it comes to their NK business.

Agreed. But the US has been asking SK to send arms to Ukraine for years. Their arms, in particular their artillery, are very high quality. It's a win win because they are producing a surplus.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'm just thinking of Putin and his roundtable 48 months ago, discussing the Ukraine invasion plan.

General1: And at month 30, we'll get North Korea to send in troops.
Putin: Good, good. That'll help manage the staggering loss of manpower we'll be expecting. So how long until we project we'll finally break through in the east?
General2: *pulls out binder* For that, we need to look at the 10 year onward document. As you see on page 21...

 

[barbos]

South Koreans are notorious BSers when it comes to their NK business.

Agreed. But the US has been asking SK to send arms to Ukraine for years. Their arms, in particular their artillery, are very high quality. It's a win win because they are producing a surplus.

Artillery is no longer the main problem for Nazi Regime in Kiev. It's soldiers. They are running out of meat for russian FABs.
And if SK sends soldiers then NK will definitely ask Putin to allow theirs to take part.

 

[barbos]

I'm just thinking of Putin and his roundtable 48 months ago, discussing the Ukraine invasion plan.

General1: And at month 30, we'll get North Korea to send in troops.
Putin: Good, good. That'll help manage the staggering loss of manpower we'll be expecting. So how long until we project we'll finally break through in the east?
General2: *pulls out binder* For that, we need to look at the 10 year onward document. As you see on page 21...

Well, it's your thinking. In reality we know that Nuland's plan was to have Russia run out of missiles in 2 months.
How do we know that? Because they said that much!

 

[ZiprHead]

I'm just thinking of Putin and his roundtable 48 months ago, discussing the Ukraine invasion plan.

General1: And at month 30, we'll get North Korea to send in troops.
Putin: Good, good. That'll help manage the staggering loss of manpower we'll be expecting. So how long until we project we'll finally break through in the east?
General2: *pulls out binder* For that, we need to look at the 10 year onward document. As you see on page 21...

Well, it's your thinking. In reality we know that Nuland's plan was to have Russia run out of missiles in 2 months.
How do we know that? Because they said that much!

Cite?

 

[barbos]

I'm just thinking of Putin and his roundtable 48 months ago, discussing the Ukraine invasion plan.

General1: And at month 30, we'll get North Korea to send in troops.
Putin: Good, good. That'll help manage the staggering loss of manpower we'll be expecting. So how long until we project we'll finally break through in the east?
General2: *pulls out binder* For that, we need to look at the 10 year onward document. As you see on page 21...

Well, it's your thinking. In reality we know that Nuland's plan was to have Russia run out of missiles in 2 months.
How do we know that? Because they said that much!

Cite?

LOL, have you forgotten what these assholes were telling you in spring 2022?

 

[barbos]

Reality is, there is no North Korean anything in Ukraine. You failed to provide any evidence.
We know there were Iranian drones at some point, because there is evidence. And there is no evidence of north korean ammunition.
Russia does not have problems with production of anything, period.
Syrsky has said that himself. He said Russia has more of everything now than at the start.
More tanks, more men, more missiles, more drones of all kinds.

 

[ZiprHead]

I'm just thinking of Putin and his roundtable 48 months ago, discussing the Ukraine invasion plan.

General1: And at month 30, we'll get North Korea to send in troops.
Putin: Good, good. That'll help manage the staggering loss of manpower we'll be expecting. So how long until we project we'll finally break through in the east?
General2: *pulls out binder* For that, we need to look at the 10 year onward document. As you see on page 21...

Well, it's your thinking. In reality we know that Nuland's plan was to have Russia run out of missiles in 2 months.
How do we know that? Because they said that much!

Cite?

LOL, have you forgotten what these assholes were telling you in spring 2022?

Yes. So please provide the cite.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

South Koreans are notorious BSers when it comes to their NK business.

Agreed. But the US has been asking SK to send arms to Ukraine for years. Their arms, in particular their artillery, are very high quality. It's a win win because they are producing a surplus.

Artillery is no longer the main problem for Nazi Regime in Kiev. It's soldiers. They are running out of meat for russian FABs.
And if SK sends soldiers then NK will definitely ask Putin to allow theirs to take part.

You've been making a mantra out of the *insert reason Ukraine is about to fall*. It keeps changing and you keep obfuscating. The whole point of my post is to poke fun at your 'all going to plan' mentality. And all you can respond is that Ukraine hasn't defeated Russia, therefore Russia awesome.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'm just thinking of Putin and his roundtable 48 months ago, discussing the Ukraine invasion plan.

General1: And at month 30, we'll get North Korea to send in troops.
Putin: Good, good. That'll help manage the staggering loss of manpower we'll be expecting. So how long until we project we'll finally break through in the east?
General2: *pulls out binder* For that, we need to look at the 10 year onward document. As you see on page 21...

Well, it's your thinking. In reality we know that Nuland's plan was to have Russia run out of missiles in 2 months.
How do we know that? Because they said that much!

Cite?

LOL, have you forgotten what these assholes were telling you in spring 2022?

The assholes are out there murdering Ukrainians.

 

[Elixir]

So trumpy of you.

So you approve.

 

[steve_bank]

One of the area where Russia is still way ahead of China is aerospace and weapons (nuclear subs, Air Defence in particular).
Which is kinda remarkable considering that Russia has been stagnating there since the end of the USSR.
Apparently it's tough nut to crack, even with money Chinese have.
Russia is the only country outside of the combined West (1bil people) which has comparable full spectrum aerospace expertise.

Российский двигатель для новых широкофюзеляжных самолетов. Образец ПД-35 показал устойчивую работу в ходе испытаний

Опытный образец авиадвигателя - демонстратора технологий ПД-35 успешно завершил первый этап испытаний, о чем пишет ТАСС со ссылкой на представителей предприятий, участвующих в разработке двигателя.

www.ixbt.com

Considering the Russian military performance in Ukraine against a determined adversary that can fight I do not put much stock in Russian weapons.


China is starting to build commercial jets and is planning missions to the Moon and Mars.

Look up and you will see their space station.

Russia is becoming more irrelevant every day Putin is in power. Like the Europeans China learned to enjoy its economic success.

Meanwhile Putin sticks to the old failed Soviet global paradigms and the war goes on with no end in sight. Ukraine is not Georgia.

 

[bilby]

I think being a president, or ex president means your life is constantly threatened. Being a celebrity sucks in that sense.

I don't recall who said it, but someone once defined fame as when someone you have never met wants to kill you.

 

[barbos]

South Koreans are notorious BSers when it comes to their NK business.

Agreed. But the US has been asking SK to send arms to Ukraine for years. Their arms, in particular their artillery, are very high quality. It's a win win because they are producing a surplus.

Artillery is no longer the main problem for Nazi Regime in Kiev. It's soldiers. They are running out of meat for russian FABs.
And if SK sends soldiers then NK will definitely ask Putin to allow theirs to take part.

You've been making a mantra out of the *insert reason Ukraine is about to fall*. It keeps changing and you keep obfuscating. The whole point of my post is to poke fun at your 'all going to plan' mentality. And all you can respond is that Ukraine hasn't defeated Russia, therefore Russia awesome.

Well, your own regimes are trying to shut this war down. Why would they do that if everything is going great for you and your regime in Kiev?
The fact is, MSM has been lying to you about everything from the get go. And you keep repeating that BS tirelessly.

 

[barbos]

Considering the Russian military performance in Ukraine against a determined adversary that can fight I do not put much stock in Russian weapons.

Russian military performance according to acting american generals is great.
And China is known to sell locally made copies or russian weapons while buying originals for themselves.
Western weapons overall has been shown to be expensive garbage.
Patriot - failed.
Tanks - failed
Artillery systems - failed (not enough ammo and and don't last very long)
F-16? nobody saw them.

 

[barbos]

Russia is becoming more irrelevant every day Putin is in power.

You are internationally posting this BS, aren't you?

 

[barbos]

China is starting to build commercial jets and is planning missions to the Moon and Mars.

These jets are not even close to be competitive to western or russian ones. And they are 90% from western parts whereas russian MC21 is close to 100% russian and it is competitive to western ones.
So think about that for a moment.
A country with 140mil people is competitive (technology wise) with combined West ($1bil people) and mighty China (1.4 bil people) is not yet capable to compete.

 

[barbos]

I'm just thinking of Putin and his roundtable 48 months ago, discussing the Ukraine invasion plan.

General1: And at month 30, we'll get North Korea to send in troops.
Putin: Good, good. That'll help manage the staggering loss of manpower we'll be expecting. So how long until we project we'll finally break through in the east?
General2: *pulls out binder* For that, we need to look at the 10 year onward document. As you see on page 21...

Well, it's your thinking. In reality we know that Nuland's plan was to have Russia run out of missiles in 2 months.
How do we know that? Because they said that much!

Cite?

LOL, have you forgotten what these assholes were telling you in spring 2022?

The assholes are out there murdering Ukrainians.

Yes, Nuland, BoJo, Graham, Biden and Elensky himself are assholes.