barbos
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That's a lie perpetuated by neocon Media.Going back to the start. Ukraine kicked out the pro Russian puppet leader.
That's a lie perpetuated by neocon Media.Going back to the start. Ukraine kicked out the pro Russian puppet leader.
That's a lie perpetuated by MSM. Yanukovich was not against EU, even Putin was not against Ukraine entering EU.they then chose to align with the EU
That's true, but eventually he agreed to Ukraine going to EU, provided Russian interests are protected.Putin wanted to keep Ukraine in the Russian Federation economic block.
That's BS perpetuated by neocon MSM.Then the invasion of Ukraine. It had nothing to do with any European or Ukrainian military threat to Russia. It is the same old Soviet imperialism that started with Stalin.
Really? It was a popular idea? Do you remember back in 2021, before the Russian sneak attack on Ukraine? In 2021, in post #4 in this thread YOU wrote: "No one in Russia considers it a great idea."That's BS perpetuated by neocon MSM.Then the invasion of Ukraine. It had nothing to do with any European or Ukrainian military threat to Russia. It is the same old Soviet imperialism that started with Stalin.
On a tactical level, Putin had no choice but to respond to US/NATO provocations. Public opinion was for it and if he had done nothing he would have risked having unrest in Russia.
Remember when I said it was a sneak attack? That's because Putin didn't actually warn Ukraine that a war was coming. Putin is a conniving snake who pretended he was having "military exercises" then chose to surprise the Ukranians with a whole lot of fucking murder. Russia didn't give Ukraine a chance to avoid this war because the war was a surprise! Hell the invasion of Russian soldiers (out of uniform) in 2014 into the Donbas was a deceptive surprise attack too. Don't fucking tell us that Russia was tricked into this war, or that it was planned by Washington. If Putin had actually warned Ukraine about war, there would be a record of their correspondence instead of a series of lies and deceptions on the part of Putin regarding the multiple illegal invasions of Ukraine.Putin has given Ukrainians multiple chances to avoid this war and settle on remarkably good for Ukraine terms. But the goal of regime in washington was not peace, their goal was to regime change Putin. They planned to start a war in Ukraine and have Russia lose it and maidan Putin out.
LOL, If sanctions weren't working you wouldn't complain so much about them.Problem is, plan did not work at all. In particular sanctions not only did not work, they did the exact opposite, they helped Russia economically, mainly becasue they stopped money drain to the West.
China and the rest of the global majority did not support sanctions. Russian oligarchs were sanctioned to the point where they could not pay people to tie their shoelaces. By the way, yachts you stole from russian oligarchs require expensive maintenance fee. And you can't sell them becasue nobody wants to buy stolen property.
You idiots basically provided free of charge parking and maintenance for these yachts. Cause you know what's going to happen, you are going to return them to their rightful owners. Same with arrested russian funds. You are going to return every cent of it. Saudi Arabia and other ME monarchies will make sure you do.
Unipolar world is over, learn to live in a new world.
I don't. I have thanked you for the sanctions many times.If sanctions weren't working you wouldn't complain so much about them.
I was not in Russian government and was not privy to the data they had at the time.We now know and independent observers confirmed it at the time that Ukrainina regime was increasing their shelling of NBReally? It was a popular idea? Do you remember back in 2021, before the Russian sneak attack on Ukraine?
So, Ukraine is just a fall guy for NATO.It's true that ultimately Nato's purpose .. an accident could happen leading to WW3. No one wins in this situation.
I have always said that Ukraine should not have fallen in the NATO trap. But they needed wiser leaders for that than Poroshenko and Zelensky. What hypocrisy are you talking about?Then why are you saying someone else should do that?
In English it’s called HYPOCRISY. Look it up.
Then do it a million and one times. And be specific.I did, million times.I don't know any Georgians although I did meet a family that fled when Russia took over. So no. You made the statement. You support it.Ask Georgians, they will explain it to you.What exactly is the shit we do that we need to be punished for?I think he is pretty competent but it is true that Russia and he himself has no way back out. Russia has to finish Ukraine to stay independent. Russia can not allow that shit you do go unpunished. And if we need to kill ukrainian soldiers for that so be it. Their deaths are on you and ukro-regime you installed. Georgians were punished and learned their lesson, so will ukrainians, eventually.Putin is an incompetent dictator obsessed on Ukraine. He has no way to back out, the only thing he can do is kill Ukrainian citizens.
Well, you snipped my post and took me out of context. Nato's purpose is to discourage Russia from invading its members. In this, it has been wildly successful.So, Ukraine is just a fall guy for NATO.It's true that ultimately Nato's purpose .. an accident could happen leading to WW3. No one wins in this situation.
There would be no war right now if Ukraine had been in Nato.I have always said that Ukraine should not have fallen in the NATO trap. But they needed wiser leaders for that than Poroshenko and Zelensky. What hypocrisy are you talking about?Then why are you saying someone else should do that?
In English it’s called HYPOCRISY. Look it up.
Ukraine is not a NATO member. At one time, it was Afghanistan. There may have been others too.Well, you snipped my post and took me out of context. Nato's purpose is to discourage Russia from invading its members. In this, it has been wildly successful.
I don't think that is true. I do not know if NATO members too will get involved, the way things are going.There would be no war right now if Ukraine had been in Nato.
In the 75 years since Nato's formation, which Nato countries have been invaded by Russia?I don't think that is true. I do not know if NATO members too will get involved, the way things are going.There would be no war right now if Ukraine had been in Nato.
Yours.What hypocrisy are you talking about?
Maybe kinda like Germany and Japan were fall guys for the Allies. Those countries went down the shitter because they invaded other countries and committed atrocities like Russia is doing in Ukraine. After their defeat both countries became economic giants. Maybe that's barbos's plan, destroy Russia so it can become a modern state. Tricksy barbos.So, Ukraine is just a fall guy for NATO.It's true that ultimately Nato's purpose .. an accident could happen leading to WW3. No one wins in this situation.
The unwritten agreement was the west provides security in the gulf and the Arabs keep oil flowin and keep prices stable, the global economy.That's BS perpetuated by neocon MSM.Then the invasion of Ukraine. It had nothing to do with any European or Ukrainian military threat to Russia. It is the same old Soviet imperialism that started with Stalin.
On a tactical level, Putin had no choice but to respond to US/NATO provocations. Public opinion was for it and if he had done nothing he would have risked having unrest in Russia. Putin has given Ukrainians multiple chances to avoid this war and settle on remarkably good for Ukraine terms. But the goal of regime in washington was not peace, their goal was to regime change Putin. They planned to start a war in Ukraine and have Russia lose it and maidan Putin out.
Problem is, plan did not work at all. In particular sanctions not only did not work, they did the exact opposite, they helped Russia economically, mainly becasue they stopped money drain to the West.
China and the rest of the global majority did not support sanctions. Russian oligarchs were sanctioned to the point where they could not pay people to tie their shoelaces. By the way, yachts you stole from russian oligarchs require expensive maintenance fee. And you can't sell them becasue nobody wants to buy stolen property.
You idiots basically provided free of charge parking and maintenance for these yachts. Cause you know what's going to happen, you are going to return them to their rightful owners. Same with arrested russian funds. You are going to return every cent of it. Saudi Arabia and other ME monarchies will make sure you do.
Unipolar world is over, learn to live in a new world.