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how to leave the US

It is going to depend on your employment. If you are able to work from home/remotely, I would recommend Prague. Good internet speeds and reliable connection, low cost of living, decent quality of life, easy access to the rest of Europe, and plenty of people that can speak and understand English.<snip>]

I'm not sure what kind of employment you're thinking of, but this sounds like a headache residence-permit wise: Not being employed in the country nor investing in it significantly sounds like you have to live from one tourist visum to the next, with a maximum stay of 90 days each and often restrictions on how much you can be in the country in total over the course of a year.
 
The only place outside the USA I've been to is Montreal on a vacation.

I've been to three (four if you count one I only transited) different foreign countries within the last 2 and a half months. But that may have more to do with the size of countries hereabouts - at not point was I more than 1000km from home in the process.
 
Cuba would probably welcome you with open arms. They need the propaganda of someone trying to flee to their country for the political freedom they offer to counter US propaganda displaying all the Cubans that fled to the US.
 
The hard part is getting citizenship in another country (and the US won't let you relinquish citizenship unless you have citizenship somewhere else--there are treaties about not creating stateless individuals and allowing you to relinquish without having another citizenship would make you stateless.)

Uh, wrong. There is a U.N. treaty called the Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness. However, the United States has never signed it and has never abided by it. Their position has always been that U.S. citizens have a right to renounce their citizenship, even if it makes them stateless.
 
The only place outside the USA I've been to is Montreal on a vacation.

I've been to three (four if you count one I only transited) different foreign countries within the last 2 and a half months. But that may have more to do with the size of countries hereabouts - at not point was I more than 1000km from home in the process.

With our western road systems and open spaces people travel 1000km away on a weekend for fun.

From Seattle alpine wilderness, high plains desert, sub tropical rain forest. and the ocean are all easy weekend journeys. I have no need to travel outside the USA. If I want a culture change I'd go to California...or Oregon..

When I was more mobile I'd drive 20 miles one way to get a hamburger at my favorite spot.

If I grew up in Texas I'd miss the wide open spaces.
 
I've been to three (four if you count one I only transited) different foreign countries within the last 2 and a half months. But that may have more to do with the size of countries hereabouts - at not point was I more than 1000km from home in the process.

With our western road systems and open spaces people travel 1000km away on a weekend for fun.

From Seattle alpine wilderness, high plains desert, sub tropical rain forest. and the ocean are all easy weekend journeys. I have no need to travel outside the USA. If I want a culture change I'd go to California...or Oregon..

When I was more mobile I'd drive 20 miles one way to get a hamburger at my favorite spot.

If I grew up in Texas I'd miss the wide open spaces.

This here is the main reason why America is such a widely despised global hegemon. The British Empire was administered by people who thought Britain was far superior to anywhere else; but they were not so stupid as to think that all the world's cultural variation was to be found within the British Isles.

Sure, Texas is unlike New Hampshire in lots of noticeable ways. But only someone who had never left the North American continent could possibly imagine that the cultural differences within the US are comparable to those outside in the wider world.

The reputation the Americans have for being insensitive jerks largely stems from this rather stupid belief that the whole world is much like the USA, only poorer.

Get a passport, get on a plane, and go somewhere on a different continent. I guarantee that if you do this (and mix with the people at your destination, rather than huddle in a sealed tour bus with a bunch of other Americans), you would understand that in order to consider yourself even vaguely knowledgeable about culture, you do indeed have a need to travel outside the USA. If you never do, then the rest of the world will continue to consider you to be culturally stunted intellectual midgets.
 
I've been to three (four if you count one I only transited) different foreign countries within the last 2 and a half months. But that may have more to do with the size of countries hereabouts - at not point was I more than 1000km from home in the process.

With our western road systems and open spaces people travel 1000km away on a weekend for fun.<snip>

"Your" Western road system? Would that be the one with a speed limit 10mph below ours?

And how are your high speed trains getting along?
 
Get a passport, get on a plane, and go somewhere on a different continent. I guarantee that if you do this (and mix with the people at your destination, rather than huddle in a sealed tour bus with a bunch of other Americans), you would understand that in order to consider yourself even vaguely knowledgeable about culture, you do indeed have a need to travel outside the USA. If you never do, then the rest of the world will continue to consider you to be culturally stunted intellectual midgets.

Too much carbon footprint to do that. This is the type of consumerism that is destroying the planet.
 
Get a passport, get on a plane, and go somewhere on a different continent. I guarantee that if you do this (and mix with the people at your destination, rather than huddle in a sealed tour bus with a bunch of other Americans), you would understand that in order to consider yourself even vaguely knowledgeable about culture, you do indeed have a need to travel outside the USA. If you never do, then the rest of the world will continue to consider you to be culturally stunted intellectual midgets.

Too much carbon footprint to do that. This is the type of consumerism that is destroying the planet.

Steve could sneak onto a cargo ship out of Seattle (or haggle with the captain for a fare) if he's worried about his carbon footprint (as someone who admits to driving 20 miles one way for a hamburger, he probably isn't). He's retired, he has the time to do that kind of stuff.
 
To physically leave the country is no big deal. Get a passport, go somewhere.

The hard part is getting citizenship in another country (and the US won't let you relinquish citizenship unless you have citizenship somewhere else--there are treaties about not creating stateless individuals and allowing you to relinquish without having another citizenship would make you stateless.)

Realistically, the routes are either money, heritage or marriage. There's no way you can create heritage so it leaves only money or marriage.

The rules vary on exactly how money works, in some cases you can simply outright buy citizenship--but most such places are countries you don't want to live in--such citizenship is only useful for pretending not to be whatever your real nationality is. Of the places that are reasonable to live the usual rule is investing the money in some fashion. For the worthwhile places it's normally in the 6 figures. (Example: In the US it's $500k per visa, the money must be directly invested in starting/expanding a company and produce at least 10 jobs for Americans--your role with the company doesn't count as one of the ten.)

Well, isn't that special? Give us your huddled masses yearning to INVEST.;)

It's actually a quite sensible policy. Bringing in the wealthy helps countries. Most every country has some version of visa by investment.
 
If you work at CIA, just make yourself a passport for the country you wish to enter. Don't forget to also forge a drivers licence and national ID card(s) if applicable!
What about language? can CIA download your brain with that?
 
If you work at CIA, just make yourself a passport for the country you wish to enter. Don't forget to also forge a drivers licence and national ID card(s) if applicable!
What about language? can CIA download your brain with that?

Well the best countries in the world, according to the OECD, are Australia, Norway, Canada, Sweden, and the USA (in that order); You can get by perfectly well with only English in all of those places; Although the Norwegians and Swedes would probably take more kindly to you if you at least made an effort to learn their language, most Norwegians and Swedes speak excellent English, as do some Canadians, and even one or two Americans.
 
bilby

I know you think you are engaged in an epic contest of wills with me, but is really all in your head.

That is absolutely the most entertaining anti-USA rant I have ever heard. Interesting mix of bigotry and ignorant stereotype.

Americans think the rest of the world as poor? Where do you get this drivel from? Which Americans wold that be?

A theme song for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_uujKuJMI

As to the world hating America, I would disagree. I have worked with many from around the world and have heard it all, the criticisms and the positive views.. I do not need to travel to get a sense of that.

Spending a week in Rome or Paris does not bring about cultural awareness, it may give the sense that you are. And perhaps a self delusion of understanding. What you probably mean by culture is the tourist facade.

You gain sensitivity over time actually dealing with cultural issues and communications. I've worked closely professionally with immigrants from India, South Africa, Iran, Somalia, China Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Russia, Vietnam, Iran and others who have English as a second language. Once you get past the language, stereotypes, and apparent cultural differences we are all pretty much the same. Eat, drink, family, socializing, work.

Culture and ethnicity is the major cause of conflict today

Kurds-Iraquis
Turks-Kurds
Catalonian separatists
Northern Ireland
Scottish separatists
Arabs-Persians

We look at the inability of Spain, Greece, and Portugal to get its finances in order. Greece is effectively a welfare state that sucked up our tax dollars in a bailout..

We look at the world and think we do it better, and yes even exceptional. we have bee an anchor post WWII. The still bickering European states can not work together without US leadership. They ask for it.

I grew up in the NYC metro area 'multi cultural' before it was called that. Given our cultural immigrant mix you can hardly say we are insensitive. We push assimilation, and at the same time celebrate differences. The NYC St Patrick's Day Parade is iconic. Hispanics widely celebrate Cinco de Mayo and display Mexican flags.

On the contrary I'd say a white Australian from a country which until well into the 1900s had a whites only immigration policy knows little of cultural diversity, and can not grasp what the diversity in the USA means.

In one direction from me there is a Sons Of Norway house. In another a Sikh temple, and another an Asian temple. All within about 5 miles of each other.

I am about 30 miles north of Seattle. When I go to the grocery store on a busy day there is always a mix of whites, Hispanics, blacks, Asians, and occasionally a mid east type. The background language patter is multi language. The Pacific coast inclusive of Vancouver BC is highly integrated with immigrant culture going back to the 1800s.

We look at the chronically unstable Italian politics, the mid east, and other places concluding we do a lot better. We tend to view the Europeans as weak ad unable to work together. Attested to by the half assed response to the Ukraine crisis. Despite the EU France, Germany, and England still play out petty power politics to their own detriment. NATO is useless without the USA.

I do not buy into the paradigm that all cultures are equal. What has Australia contributed to the world post WWII?

For most here Australia would be far too socialist and a 'nanny state'. Do I are about the social differences between Portugal and Germany? Not a bit. Much as the average Portuguese probably care little for other places.

The idea that Americans are singular cultural bad actors is nonsense. Consider French, German, and English nationalism.

Let me know when you have a black PM.

A past Washington governor is second or third generation Chinese. When in China as ambassador the Chinese media called him a 'white banana'. Meaning someone of Chinese ancestry who is part of western society. Jindal governor of Louisianan parents were from India.

My sense is you have your head up your butt on culture in general and the USA. I'd say your rant comes from ignorance and Aussie physical isolation. I'd probably find Australia bland and boring.

Tell me,would you buy a house in a 50/50 black-white split area? If you have a daughter would you be OK with her having a black husband and having mixed blood grand kids? Would your family accept it? Do you think twice about sitting next to blacks in a restaurant? The test of cultural sensitivity is how you react in real everyday situations, not traveling as a tourist. I have been through my own learning curve

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bilby

The US as a modern empire harking back to the British past is as much nonsense as the Zionist conspiracies.

It is right up there with the global Zionist conspiracy theory nonsense. The USA does not rule the world, it is a secret cabal of Jews. Haven't you heard, the USA is a pawn of the Zionists?


As to American hegemony and empire, reality does not fit the definition. If we were empire with an hegemony we wold not face the problems we do. We would dictate. Israel does what it wants, and the Arabs have joined in only in the face of an ISIS existential threat.

Post WWII Europe went its own way. France said fuck off and withdrew from NATO. We could not control Europe if we wanted to.

Japan and South Korea are stable economic centers, beneficial to Australia. We have little political influence over either. America opened trade with China leading to its economic surge, benefiting Australia.

The hegemony Australia has to worry about is China. China arbitrarily redrew international maritime and airspace boundaries to include most of the fish and natural resources and is threatening military action if any of the opposing states respond. Japan, Philippines, Malaysia,Vietnam. China clams the right to control cargo traffic through the South China sea, which affects Australia.

China is developing a blue water navy to challenge the American carrier battle group and enforce its demands. Another maritime security issue for Australia. There are ongoing naval standoffs,

Two years ago Vietnam asked for a US Navy visit as a signal to China, and recently there was a report of military cooperation negotiations with the USA.

The US leads a periodic Asian Pacific joint naval exercise. Japan is considering changing its restriction on the use of its military. It has developed a carrier initially for helicopters, but suitable for STOL fighter jets. China gets enraged claiming a rise in Japanese militancy, laughable. Point being an arms race in your region is developing.

Sometimes I think we should pull back from SEA ad let them all sort it out, intruding New Zealand and Australia both utterly dependent on free ocean navigation. Let them carry the regional burden.

You rant from ignorance and the physical isolation of Australia from the rest of the world. You need to get up to speed on your regional security and trade issues and impacts. Where would Australia’s economy be with a SEA political meltdown or strong Chinese hegemony?

Not as volatile as the Mid East, China and SEA have simmering religious issues.

Power vacuums are always filled. What happens to the region if we pull back?

How's that free trade deal with China going? I read it will bypass the US dollar for the Chinese currency. Your PM in a clip said without exports of minerals to China the Aussie economy would be in trouble. Looks like Australia may be part of the new Chinese hegemony.

The UK announced it will allow borrowing in Yen. China is who Australia needs to watch out for in the future.

America in decline and China on the rise. Hope the American decline is what you and the world hope for..
 
"Your" Western road system? Would that be the one with a speed limit 10mph below ours?

And how are your high speed trains getting along?

Trains are tools of socialism.
American trains declined with the building of the national highway system, mass produced cars, cheap gas, and the open west. The economy became distributed.

It is not how fast, it is how far. Try driving across Kansas or the upper mid west from Chicago to Seattle. There is a long stretch in the southwest with a history of people driving off the road. They don't fall asleep, they loose concentration.

Light rail is coming back, Portland Oregon developed a larger scale system, Seattle on a smaller scale.

SF has BART.

The problem with high speed trains is how we are distributed. They only make sense in a limited number of corridors.

Overlay the USA over western Europe. Major centers are fairly close.
 
That is absolutely the most entertaining anti-USA rant I have ever heard. Interesting mix of bigotry and ignorant stereotype.

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