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bilby said:
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ZiprHead said:
Damn, I shoulda written down the lotto numbers.
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You had one job!
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Two jobs.

Everyone knows, if you invent time travel, you win the lotto and kill Hitler.
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I always pondered that as a Sci-Fi novel. We invent time travel, turns out there is only one time line. If we prevent the holocaust, the entire future timeline is erased and rewritten, wiping us all out. The question is, what decision is made regarding changing history.

Or the Kilgore Trout version, we want to prevent the Holocaust, but in doing so, we stop the invention of time travel and can't stop the holocaust.
Or the more Kilgore Trout version, we want to prevent the Holocaust, but in doing so, we would stop all future generations from existing in the timeline... so the people decide to just rewrite the history book and pretend it never happened.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
bilby said:
hurtinbuckaroo said:
ZiprHead said:
Damn, I shoulda written down the lotto numbers.
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You had one job!
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Two jobs.

Everyone knows, if you invent time travel, you win the lotto and kill Hitler.
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I always pondered that as a Sci-Fi novel. We invent time travel, turns out there is only one time line. If we prevent the holocaust, the entire future timeline is erased and rewritten, wiping us all out. The question is, what decision is made regarding changing history.

Or the Kilgore Trout version, we want to prevent the Holocaust, but in doing so, we stop the invention of time travel and can't stop the holocaust.
Or the more Kilgore Trout version, we want to prevent the Holocaust, but in doing so, we would stop all future generations from existing in the timeline... so the people decide to just rewrite the history book and pretend it never happened.
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1) Larry Niven showed that you can't have time machines in a resettable time line. If history can be changed then someday somebody will change it, the only stable state is the one where time machines are not developed.

2) James Hogan, Thrice Upon a Time. Single, resettable time line, but not subject to Niven's problem because the machine can only talk to itself. Time roads, not time machines.

3) Jacob Holo (with David Weber), Gordian Division novels. Small changes disappear into the noise, they didn't realize that big changes fork the universe instead and can have cataclysmic results. No, they don't kill Hitler: they save him. (Without him WWII doesn't go nuclear, by the time the bomb is used there are a lot more around making it much worse.)
 
bilby said:
Everyone knows, if you invent time travel, you win the lotto and kill Hitler.
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NO. NO. I told ya before. My folks MET in DC during the war. Without the war, I don't exist. (or is that part of your plan?)
gmbteach said:
And give Trumps dad a condom!
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That's the ticket.
 
unapologetic said:
Without the war, I don't exist.
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With the war, millions of people don't exist.

The war prevented the existence of vast numbers of potential people.

Millions of people gave their lives to defeat Hitler; Why do you demand special treatment? It's not like you are going to suffer - nobody's going to shoot, bayonet, bomb, gas, or shell you.
 
bilby said:
Millions of people gave their lives to defeat Hitler; Why do you demand special treatment? It's not like you are going to suffer - nobody's going to shoot, bayonet, bomb, gas, or shell you.
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Now you're making me feel guilty for stealing your time machine.
Er... you can't prove it was me.
 
Aw NUTZ.
I just proved the branching timelines theory. Not my intent.
I spent 3 weeks in 2010 setting it up. Found my way onto a location shoot of The Apprentice. Shot Rump dead while they were taping.
Biggest ratings ever. Biggest of any TV show. After a 3 day hiatus Ivanka came in as subsitute host.

However, now that I'm back I see nothing has changed. Rump is still alive and POTUS. We're still fucked.
@bilby, Do you want your time machine back? It ain't good for anything but history research.
Hmm, my memory has always been a little weak. (Too many drugs in the 70s) There are a few folks here I don't remember. (probably it's just my memory) Who is this Barbos guy?
 
Oh? I guess they had to get hitched, after half the country tried to stop them from dating for no real reason. Prediction: the kids will have some weird-ass names.
 
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bilby said:
The war prevented the existence of vast numbers of potential people.
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I don't have the stats, But I think the resulting 'baby boom' was much larger than the war casulties.

Looking for a chart to support it, I found this chart that seems to indicate the 'boom' was all in China and India. ???
Does not show total world population, just top 5 countrys.
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Charts I've found with total world population, only start at 1950.
 
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