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And the tourism industry tanks. Who the fuck would ever want to take a vacation here? Or travel here for business?
Hey, I think it’s a great idea. If they ever expressed a favorable opinion of Trump or of anyone who has ever expressed such a positive opinion, they should be disallowed, and locked up, should they make it to our golden shores.
Fuck Trump, and fuck trumpsuckers, whether they’re ignorant bubbas or greedy rich bastards.
 

And the tourism industry tanks. Who the fuck would ever want to take a vacation here? Or travel here for business?
No sane person would do it twice. US Border agents made it quite clear that non-US Citizens were an unwelcome nuisance even back in the '90s when I visited. I had a hotel booking, and an onward plane ticket to London 48 hours later, and they insisted on grilling me about whether I intended to work while I was in the US.

It took extreme patience not to say "Yeah, I plan to set up a shoe-shine business in the departure lounge, in the hope of earning more than my wasted hotel booking is worth, so I can profit from my visit. Who needs sleep after a sixteen hour flight across a dozen timezones anyway?".

Of course, they have neither brains nor sense of humour, so saying that would likely have gotten me jailed.

And that was before 9-11; I dread to imagine what they are like now.

Foreign tourism in the US is clearly not an industry the US Border agents are keen to promote. Maybe they get a kick-back from the Canadians.
 
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The missus and I were planning to visit New England during Canadian trip in 2027 but now might not bother as it seems to be just too much work. Though that might affect our wishing to go on those whale watching cruises up to Alaska
 
The missus and I were planning to visit New England during Canadian trip in 2027 but now might not bother as it seems to be just too much work. Though that might affect our wishing to go on those whale watching cruises up to Alaska
By 2027 we may have given Alaska back to Russia.
 
On the face of it, this looks like a pretty stupid idea and after a more in depth look, it's still stupid. However, stupid is where the money is these days.

Sifting through every visa applicant's social media and other online data has never been practical because it simply takes too long and requires a bureaucratic network that would cost equal to the Army and Navy combined.

However, if you were a techbro with an AI company, the sales pitch writes itself. An AI data center along with the software could run 5 years of TicTok and emails(who uses emails these days?) in less than an hour. During the process, it will also collect data unrelated to national security, but valuable all the same.

It's tough being an AI techbro these days. Everybody keeps looking for signs the bubble has reached bursting point. If you could get a government contract that foots the bill for your data center and what's even better, makes providing electricity and water to it a matter of national security, you could float on your bubble for a very long time.

It's still a stupid idea that does more harm than any benefit, but theses are desperate times for techbros who keep hoping against hope that today isn't the day it all crashes.
 
ICE has kidnapped a U.S. citizen.

An immigration attorney, Victoria Slatton, has a client who was BORN IN MARYLAND, a U.S. BORN CITIZEN, and ICE took her into custody on December 16th.

That alone should terrify you.
But it gets worse.

Her legal team filed habeas corpus, the legal protection meant to stop the government from disappearing people.

A COURT GRANTED IT.

The judge issued an injunction stating she:

-CANNOT be deported.
-CANNOT be moved out of the jurisdiction.

Because she is a U.S. citizen. Born in America.

ICE ignored the court order.

Even after being given her valid U.S. birth certificate, ICE moved her anyway, transferring her to Louisiana, a location widely known as a final stop before deportation.

Let me say this again, because it should make your stomach drop:

THIS WOMAN WAS BORN IN THE UNITED STATES.

DHS is now:

-Ignoring a federal court order
-Holding a U.S. citizen
-Denying her access to her lawyer

Her attorney didn’t stop at a birth certificate. They provided:

-Immunization records
-Sworn affidavits from people present at her birth
- And has personally confirmation from the hospital that records of her birth exist

None of it mattered.

Despite overwhelming proof, DHS is still refusing to release her and is actively transporting a U.S. born citizen across state lines, in direct defiance of the court.

This is not “border security.”
This is not “law and order.”

This is the federal government deciding it can erase citizenship on a whim

 
As Bovino and the DHS have embraced the power of cinema to document immigration arrests and promote current policies, the Trump administration is also cracking down on individuals who choose to record immigration operations. In a December 4 memo, originally leaked by journalist Ken Klippenstein, the Justice Department encourages federal prosecutors to press "domestic terrorism" charges against people for "doxing" law enforcement officers. While undefined in the memo, "doxing" in this context is understood to mean the publishing of information that identifies law enforcement officers, which the Justice Department insinuates is a threatening activity used to "silence opposing speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning of a democratic society."

This definition mirrors previous statements by DHS officials earlier this year, including a statement made by Noem in July: "Violence is anything that threatens [agents] and their safety, so it's doxing them, it's videotaping them where they're at when they're out on operations."
 
As Bovino and the DHS have embraced the power of cinema to document immigration arrests and promote current policies, the Trump administration is also cracking down on individuals who choose to record immigration operations. In a December 4 memo, originally leaked by journalist Ken Klippenstein, the Justice Department encourages federal prosecutors to press "domestic terrorism" charges against people for "doxing" law enforcement officers. While undefined in the memo, "doxing" in this context is understood to mean the publishing of information that identifies law enforcement officers, which the Justice Department insinuates is a threatening activity used to "silence opposing speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning of a democratic society."

This definition mirrors previous statements by DHS officials earlier this year, including a statement made by Noem in July: "Violence is anything that threatens [agents] and their safety, so it's doxing them, it's videotaping them where they're at when they're out on operations."

Trump and his goons are the ones who are creating terror.
 
As Bovino and the DHS have embraced the power of cinema to document immigration arrests and promote current policies, the Trump administration is also cracking down on individuals who choose to record immigration operations. In a December 4 memo, originally leaked by journalist Ken Klippenstein, the Justice Department encourages federal prosecutors to press "domestic terrorism" charges against people for "doxing" law enforcement officers. While undefined in the memo, "doxing" in this context is understood to mean the publishing of information that identifies law enforcement officers, which the Justice Department insinuates is a threatening activity used to "silence opposing speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning of a democratic society."

This definition mirrors previous statements by DHS officials earlier this year, including a statement made by Noem in July: "Violence is anything that threatens [agents] and their safety, so it's doxing them, it's videotaping them where they're at when they're out on operations."
What a tacit admission of wrongdoing than criminalizing accountability.
 

Good!
Good?!

Do you not understand the concept of “temporary”?
Do you not understand the concept of "U.S. District Court Judge"?

Their entire job is to interpret such concepts, as codified in law. So that angry Internet randos can't just use any casual interpretation that suits their racist agenda.

If you want to know exactly what temporary means in this precise context, that judge is the person to ask. So if you are unsure, you can read her judgement.
 

Good!
Good?!

Do you not understand the concept of “temporary”?
Do you not understand the concept of "U.S. District Court Judge"?

Their entire job is to interpret such concepts, as codified in law. So that angry Internet randos can't just use any casual interpretation that suits their racist agenda.

If you want to know exactly what temporary means in this precise context, that judge is the person to ask. So if you are unsure, you can read her judgement.
They only like judges who agree with them. If they don't they're "bad judges and should be disbarred".
 
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