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Is Georgia on your mind?

If the Ds win both elections, will they even be seated as Senators? The GOP crime family will file a lawsuit in Georgia demanding recounts or alleging fraud; how do things play out from there? Will they prevent Warnock and Ossoff from being seated for many months, as they did against Franken in 2009? I see that the GOP-majority Pennsylvania Senate has already usurped control from its Democratic leader in order to prevent a D incumbent from being re-seated as State Senator.

We don't want a 50-48 Senate with Moscow Mitch still in charge. Perhaps the humans should challenge two of the Gopsters to get a 48-48 Senate. Of course this would escalate; maybe all the way to a 0-0 Senate with Kamala Harris deciding all questions!
 
RW is now ahead of KL by 1% or 46,551 votes.
JO is now ahead of DP by 0.22% or 9.527 votes.

Adam Nagourney: If Ossoff also wins, will Dems try to recruit Republican Senators to switch sides and join a new majority party? There's precedent and it is now the Trump Republican Party, so some might be tempted.

That would be interesting. Who might change sides? Susan Collins?

Would the Democrats try to dangle some nice committee seats in front of them? Metaphorically, of course.

Jim Rutenberg: The state of Georgia has not had a Democratic United States Senator since early 2005, when Zell Miller, who endorsed George W. Bush in 2004, retired.

Me:  Zell Miller was a conservative Democrat who liked Republicans.
 
I'd be more afraid that Manchin could switch parties like Miller did.
 
Warnock has been declared the winner and Ossoff most likely will win. He's about 15000 votes ahead and the remaining votes to be counted are in heavily Democratic districts! Woooooo. We did it! ( I'm pretty sure ):D
 
blastula said:
I'd be more afraid that Manchin could switch parties like Miller did.
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Joe Manchin of WV? Seems plausible. He is one of the most conservative Democrats there, comparable with "moderate" Republicans like Susan Collins ME and Lisa Murkowski AK - Report Cards for 2019 - Ideology Score - All Senators - GovTrack.us


Laurence Lewis on Twitter: "If the Perdue and Loeffler both lose, how will they know where to invest their money?" / Twitter
:D


Live Georgia Election Updates And Results | FiveThirtyEight
Perry Bacon, Jr.:

Mitch McConnell has been perhaps the most important person in the U.S. government since 2014, particularly with Trump often so disengaged from policy issues. So if he is no longer the Senate majority leader, as seems likely right now, that is of course a huge, huge shift. He stops bills that a majority of senators support from going to the floor. He singlehandedly blocks Democratic priorities. He really controls the agenda in the chamber. A Senate where Joe Manchin is the 51st Democratic vote is not a liberal Senate, but it’s well to the left of one where McConnell decides what gets voted on in the first place. Loeffler and Perdue have been fairly unremarkable senators. But their votes to make McConnell the majority leader were hugely important.
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MMC sometimes calls himself the gravedigger of Democrats' "socialism". From how he describes it, MMC has been acting like some prime minister. I must add NP, giving the US a pair of coprime ministers.
 
So, did they cancel the riot scheduled for later today?
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
I would also like to express my appreciation for the Libertarian in the General Election. Without them, this wouldn't have been possible. Always nice to have a spoiler hurt the other side every once in a long while.
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This is the most historic thing about all of this. Unless I'm mistaken, it represents the very first time in history that a libertarian actually did something useful.
 
Well looks like I'm going to leave work early today to celebrate.
 
Tom Sawyer said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
I would also like to express my appreciation for the Libertarian in the General Election. Without them, this wouldn't have been possible. Always nice to have a spoiler hurt the other side every once in a long while.
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This is the most historic thing about all of this. Unless I'm mistaken, it represents the very first time in history that a libertarian actually did something useful.
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Proof that a blind pig actually can fall into the mud wallow of common good and come out with an acorn in its mouth.
 
Now we wait to see what the far-right racists assholes do on the street in DC. Part of them must feel bad because they are losing again and again, and they keep talking a big game. So either their need to engage their white rage boners, or go flaccid... again, burn a #BLM sign and go home, and lick their wounded pride.
Tom Sawyer said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
I would also like to express my appreciation for the Libertarian in the General Election. Without them, this wouldn't have been possible. Always nice to have a spoiler hurt the other side every once in a long while.
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This is the most historic thing about all of this. Unless I'm mistaken, it represents the very first time in history that a libertarian actually did something useful.
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They have also caught many dogs.
 
So Abrams is right about turnout.

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Georgia voters who may have bucked their traditional election patterns in November's clash appeared to return home to their corners, according to preliminary exit polls.

College-educated White voters, particularly men, shifted back toward Republicans after moving toward Biden in the general election. Perdue won college-educated men by only 14 points in November, but more than doubled that lead to more than 30 points in this runoff.
Meanwhile, the Democratic challengers appeared to erase any gains President Donald Trump had made among non-White voters in November. Ossoff consolidated Black voters around his bid, growing his lead from 76 points in November to 86 points Tuesday. Likewise, his lead among Hispanic voters was 30 points on Tuesday, up from 9 points in November.
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Unless there is a botch in the college-educated men category, Perdue doubled his support among them... and lost by more than Trump lost to Biden. Turnout, turnout, turnout.

I believe 114,000 new voters in this election over the General Election. That number likely was the difference.
 
Tom Sawyer said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
I would also like to express my appreciation for the Libertarian in the General Election. Without them, this wouldn't have been possible. Always nice to have a spoiler hurt the other side every once in a long while.
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This is the most historic thing about all of this. Unless I'm mistaken, it represents the very first time in history that a libertarian actually did something useful.
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I think there were several factors. Trump suppressing the R vote by saying the election is rigged, and McConnell refusing to pass the $2,000 stimulus. Biden said last week, if you want that $2K you need to vote for the Dems. According to news report this morning, that was a factor.

I also wonder how many Georgians went to DC for the big crybaby rally instead of staying home and voting.
 
Most of the credit goes to Stacey Abrams. Nobody gets out the vote like she does. Right now, Ossoff is about 17,000 votes ahead and Dekalb County, probably the most Democratic county in the entire state, has a lot of votes to be counted. She won't say yet if she will run against Kemp in 2022, but I think she probably will, but this time she will win easily.

Perdue is saying that he's going to fight this and take every legal action he can. But, if Ossoff leads by more than .5%, Perdue can go fuck himself. You can't have a recount unless the winner wins by .5% or less. There are still lots of absentee ballots to be counted, and a lot more Dems have voted that way this year. I'm very optimistic that we are going to have two Democratic Senators in Georgia.

There will still be lots of drama today between the assholes who will be protesting in DC and the Republican assholes who are pretending they can over turn the election.
 
T.G.G. Moogly said:
Tom Sawyer said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
I would also like to express my appreciation for the Libertarian in the General Election. Without them, this wouldn't have been possible. Always nice to have a spoiler hurt the other side every once in a long while.
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This is the most historic thing about all of this. Unless I'm mistaken, it represents the very first time in history that a libertarian actually did something useful.
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Proof that a blind pig actually can fall into the mud wallow of common good and come out with an acorn in its mouth.
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We can also thank the racists who came up with that rule that one has to have over 50% to win. Oh, the delicious irony.
 
southernhybrid said:
Most of the credit goes to Stacey Abrams. Nobody gets out the vote like she does. Right now, Ossoff is about 17,000 votes ahead and Dekalb County, probably the most Democratic county in the entire state, has a lot of votes to be counted. She won't say yet if she will run against Kemp in 2022, but I think she probably will, but this time she will win easily.
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She can win, but it won't be easy. These victories are deep purple, not a deep blue like in Virginia or Colorado. Abrams has definitely broke the Matrix code. Georgia is going to need to be quick to come up with 100 new felonies to put on the books, like jaywalking, listening to music with large over the ear headphones, and breathing without a permit.

Perdue is saying that he's going to fight this and take every legal action he can. But, if Ossoff leads by more than .5%, Perdue can go fuck himself. You can't have a recount unless the winner wins by .5% or less. There are still lots of absentee ballots to be counted, and a lot more Dems have voted that way this year. I'm very optimistic that we are going to have two Democratic Senators in Georgia.
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Ossoff is above 0.5% with almost 100% certainty. So the question becomes what legal avenues can they take. Pretty much everything has already been adjudicated from the General Election. So if Georgia certifies it, will McConnell pull a bullshit maneuver if Perdue sues in Federal Court as a delay mechanism? Of course, Federal Courts will have very very very little room for being a legal venue.
 
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