#IStandWithAhmed (or Inventing While Muslim is a thing?)

[barbos]

Whether or not it's easy is not very relevant.
What is relevant is that it is utterly pointless and this "genius" is not soldering anything on that picture.

It's not pointless. It's thrifty. It's what people who like electronics work do when the cost of replacing something is high and the cost of fixing it is negligible. It can be frustrating. It can take a fair amount of time. But a repaired PCB can work just as well as a new one, so why spend money needlessly?

Stop lecturing me, you are in no position to lecture me. You have no clue whatsoever.

I think you took this stance because you're looking for excuses to disparage the kid, not because you can't imagine why someone would take a soldering tool to a PCB.

No, I disparage this kid because he and his family are liars and frauds.

And again, I saw that particular video, he is not soldering anything he is using it as a pointer and points to that big chip for some reasons. That board which looks like it is from old CD changer is a useless junk which can not be used for anything, you can salvage few discrete components and that's it.
This kid is a weirdo, he appears to be fascinated with electronics "porn" but this fascination is just all he has, he does not do anything meaningful with it. I mean when I was 6-7 I was fascinated with electronics too and by the age of 10 I was doing meaningful stuff, what this 14 year old does is bullshit.

Oh, so his interest in electronics is porn, and you started jacking off at the age of 6-7? Thanks for the reminder not to take your posts seriously.

His "interest" in electronics is weird, and I explained why it is weird.

Because to you it's porn, which you started jacking off to when you were 6-7. You're right, that's weird.

He is collecting electronic junk without doing anything with it.

He built a pencil case clock with some of it, remember?

He bought it.

 

[Arctish]

It's not pointless. It's thrifty. It's what people who like electronics work do when the cost of replacing something is high and the cost of fixing it is negligible. It can be frustrating. It can take a fair amount of time. But a repaired PCB can work just as well as a new one, so why spend money needlessly?

Stop lecturing me, you are in no position to lecture me. You have no clue whatsoever.

Wrong. I've seen many a laptop and tablet repaired in my kitchen and at a workstation in the spare bedroom. I've helped with some of them. PCBs can be repaired, and repairing one is a hell of a lot cheaper than replacing one.

I think you took this stance because you're looking for excuses to disparage the kid, not because you can't imagine why someone would take a soldering tool to a PCB.

No, I disparage this kid because he and his family are liars and frauds.

What lie did he tell?

And again, I saw that particular video, he is not soldering anything he is using it as a pointer and points to that big chip for some reasons. That board which looks like it is from old CD changer is a useless junk which can not be used for anything, you can salvage few discrete components and that's it.
This kid is a weirdo, he appears to be fascinated with electronics "porn" but this fascination is just all he has, he does not do anything meaningful with it. I mean when I was 6-7 I was fascinated with electronics too and by the age of 10 I was doing meaningful stuff, what this 14 year old does is bullshit.

Oh, so his interest in electronics is porn, and you started jacking off at the age of 6-7? Thanks for the reminder not to take your posts seriously.

His "interest" in electronics is weird, and I explained why it is weird.

Because to you it's porn, which you started jacking off to when you were 6-7. You're right, that's weird.

He is collecting electronic junk without doing anything with it.

He built a pencil case clock with some of it, remember?

He bought it.

So now you're claiming Ahmed bought the pencil case clock?

 

[barbos]

Stop lecturing me, you are in no position to lecture me. You have no clue whatsoever.

Wrong. I've seen many a laptop and tablet repaired in my kitchen and at a workstation in the spare bedroom. I've helped with some of them. PCBs can be repaired, and repairing one is a hell of a lot cheaper than replacing one.

You are mistaken. nobody repairs PCBs, not your husband, not even when you send them back for "repair".
Repairing typical failed motherboard would be way more expensive than simply replacing it.

I think you took this stance because you're looking for excuses to disparage the kid, not because you can't imagine why someone would take a soldering tool to a PCB.

No, I disparage this kid because he and his family are liars and frauds.

What lie did he tell?

Pretty much everything.

And again, I saw that particular video, he is not soldering anything he is using it as a pointer and points to that big chip for some reasons. That board which looks like it is from old CD changer is a useless junk which can not be used for anything, you can salvage few discrete components and that's it.
This kid is a weirdo, he appears to be fascinated with electronics "porn" but this fascination is just all he has, he does not do anything meaningful with it. I mean when I was 6-7 I was fascinated with electronics too and by the age of 10 I was doing meaningful stuff, what this 14 year old does is bullshit.

Oh, so his interest in electronics is porn, and you started jacking off at the age of 6-7? Thanks for the reminder not to take your posts seriously.

His "interest" in electronics is weird, and I explained why it is weird.

Because to you it's porn, which you started jacking off to when you were 6-7. You're right, that's weird.

He is collecting electronic junk without doing anything with it.

He built a pencil case clock with some of it, remember?

He bought it.

So now you're claiming Ahmed bought the pencil case clock?

He said he bought it.

 

[Arctish]

Wrong. I've seen many a laptop and tablet repaired in my kitchen and at a workstation in the spare bedroom. I've helped with some of them. PCBs can be repaired, and repairing one is a hell of a lot cheaper than replacing one.

You are mistaken. nobody repairs PCBs, not your husband, not even when you send them back for "repair".
Repairing typical failed motherboard would be way more expensive than simply replacing it.

And yet a quick google search turns up a variety of methods for doing just that, and a moment's thought reveals the obvious reason for giving it a try: it's cheaper than buying a new one.

I think you took this stance because you're looking for excuses to disparage the kid, not because you can't imagine why someone would take a soldering tool to a PCB.

No, I disparage this kid because he and his family are liars and frauds.

What lie did he tell?

Pretty much everything.

You have been evading this question for months. What lie did he tell? If you can't answer the question, don't make the claim.

So now you're claiming Ahmed bought the pencil case clock?

He said he bought it.

Citation needed.

 

[barbos]

You are mistaken. nobody repairs PCBs, not your husband, not even when you send them back for "repair".
Repairing typical failed motherboard would be way more expensive than simply replacing it.

And yet a quick google search turns up a variety of methods for doing just that.

I did not say it can not be done or at least tried, I merely said it is not worth it, unless you have $2000 motherboard.
And certainly 14 year old punk with $7 soldering iron from RadioShack can't do it.

I think you took this stance because you're looking for excuses to disparage the kid, not because you can't imagine why someone would take a soldering tool to a PCB.

No, I disparage this kid because he and his family are liars and frauds.

What lie did he tell?

Pretty much everything.

You have been evading this question for months. What lie did he tell? If you can't answer the question, don't make the claim.

He lied about making a clock, he lied about having being questioned for 1h 25 minutes.

So now you're claiming Ahmed bought the pencil case clock?

He said he bought it.

Citation needed.

google it, you seem to be good at googling.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

You are mistaken. nobody repairs PCBs, not your husband, not even when you send them back for "repair".
Repairing typical failed motherboard would be way more expensive than simply replacing it.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=repair+pcb

Looks pretty cheap.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It's a factory made PCB with surface mounted components which nobody touches unless they designed the damn thing themselves. You throw it away if it does not work, the most you can do is to replace electrolytic caps if they failed.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=repair+pcb

I have a closet full of that shit, you are not gonna impress me with it.

If you go to a Texas high school and are Muslim, don't tell your English teacher about that.

 

[barbos]

You are mistaken. nobody repairs PCBs, not your husband, not even when you send them back for "repair".
Repairing typical failed motherboard would be way more expensive than simply replacing it.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=repair+pcb

Looks pretty cheap.

mindless googling.
We were not talking about PCB repairs as PCB itself repair. We were talking about PCB based electronics repair. That is when you have perfectly good looking motherboard or something like that which does not work. Of course you can replace physically busted resistor or capacitor, but you have to bust it first.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=repair+pcb

Looks pretty cheap.

mindless googling.

mindless reading.

We were not talking about PCB repairs as PCB itself repair. We were talking about PCB based electronics repair. That is when you have perfectly good looking motherboard or something like that which does not work.

Some of the links which you are dismissing out of hand have soldering in them.

Of course you can replace physically busted resistor or capacitor, but you have to bust it first.

So?

Also, here's a guy using a cheap radio shack soldering gun to fix a circuit board very cheaply:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAa-IxuGE8Y

 

[barbos]

mindless googling.

mindless reading.

We were not talking about PCB repairs as PCB itself repair. We were talking about PCB based electronics repair. That is when you have perfectly good looking motherboard or something like that which does not work.

Some of the links which you are dismissing out of hand have soldering in them.

Of course you can replace physically busted resistor or capacitor, but you have to bust it first.

So?

Also, here's a guy using a cheap radio shack soldering gun to fix a circuit board very cheaply:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAa-IxuGE8Y

I think discussion got drifted off topic. You posted a picture of ahmed the clockmeyster with a $7 soldering iron. That picture is from the video which I HAD SEEN BEFORE, he is not soldering anything there, he is using it as a pointer.
That PCB he is holding is most likely from CD changer and it is most certainly 10-15 years old at least, even if it is not CD changer.
As a practical device it has no value whatsoever. also it is merely a board without the rest of device.
As for your posting and mindless googling then it suggests that you have no clue whatsoever.
I am an expert here, not you, and virtually all experts agree with me, this kid is an idiot and liar too.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Here is a picture of Ahmed soldering something to a manufactured circuit board (or maybe he is just testing something):

I think that's a staged shot for the press.

I have never used a soldering iron without my other hand either holding solder or a solder sucker. With the other hand holding the circuit board what can he actually accomplish with that iron???

 

[dismal]

Here is a picture of Ahmed soldering something to a manufactured circuit board (or maybe he is just testing something):

I think that's a staged shot for the press.

I have never used a soldering iron without my other hand either holding solder or a solder sucker. With the other hand holding the circuit board what can he actually accomplish with that iron???

Clearly Ahmed is soldering that board to his computer monitor.

Or, as he would put it "inventing a computer monitor".

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I think it's showing that the dude is so damn good that he's managed to build a completely functional computer before even putting the motherboard into it.

Can any of you do that? No, you can't. So, fuck the whole lot of you. This kid is like a young Tony Stark.

 

[Nexus]

It can't be a "hoax bomb" without the "hoax" part

And the reverse of that logic is that it can be a hoax bomb with the hoax part.

 

[RavenSky]

It can't be a "hoax bomb" without the "hoax" part

And the reverse of that logic is that it can be a hoax bomb with the hoax part.

Exactly... except Ahmed wasn't trying to play a hoax on anyone, so... no "hoax" part

 

[Jayjay]

That's my point exactly: Ahmed's device did not display the time of day. If it did, then it would have been less suspicious.

Do you have any evidence at all of what the clock displayed? If not, then we should presume it is likely it displayed 12:00 upon starting up like clocks do.

As for timers visibly counting down, please take your cell phone, open the clock application and go to the timer. What does it show? Mine says 00:00.0. Just like Ahmed's device would if plugged in.

A cell phone is irrelevant. A clock (allegedly from 1986) displays 12:00.

I did not use the cellphone as an example of a clock, but a timer.

But, you are correct. US 12-hour clocks don't have 0:00 (unless it was in 24-hour mode, but that's doubtful) so I stand corrected. Most likely it showed a blinking 12:00, like this clock here by the same manufacturer:

https://youtu.be/-CdldNvI7fA?t=7m

A blinking 12:00 is closer to a clock, but it's still not an actual time. And even if someone would figure out from the display that the device was made from clock parts, it still looked like a bomb, unless the either Ahmed or the teacher lied, and ultimately what people think it looks like is what matters.

 

[Jayjay]

[Young Muslim male brings an electronic device to school in a pencil case.] Then...
Claim#1: "It's a bomb!"

Nobody made this claim.

[Claim#1 is proved wrong.]. Then...
Claim#2: "It's a hoax bomb!"

[Claim#2 is proved wrong.] Then...
Claim#3: "Well, he made me think it was a hoax bomb. It was a hoax hoax bomb!"

No, that would still be a hoax bomb, according to the legal definition.

 

[Jayjay]

We know for a fact that the English teacher thought it looked like a bomb when she confiscated it.

*beep*beep*beep*
"Who is making that noise?"
"Sorry, ma'am."
<teacher looks at device in backpack>
"Young man, you put that bomb on my desk this instant and return to your seat! There will be no further disruptions in my classroom, is that understood?"
"Yes, ma'am".


The teacher didn't think it was a bomb. She did not report a bomb in her classroom, the school was not evacuated, and the bomb squad was not called in to deal with the device.

And I never claimed that she thought it was a bomb. As I've pointed out for the past hundred or so pages of this thread.

Apparently she thought it was something that violated school policy, but we haven't heard from her what policy she was thinking about. She might have been thinking about a "no weapons or dangerous items in school" policy, or she might have been thinking about a policy that all electronic devices must be kept in lockers until the end of the day. She might have suspected shenanigans were imminent, and called the Principal to warn him.

The student code of conduct in the school district lists "look-alive weapons" as contraband. Danger is irrelevant, only what it looks like.

 

[angelo]

Genius ' clock boy ' is a muslim, muslims lean way to way left! Democrats are a natural for ' clock boy' and his politico dad.

I would say it's other way around, democrats have a thing for all kinds minorities regardless of the facts.

So clock boy IS a Democrat shoe in.

 

[angelo]

Whether or not it's easy is not very relevant.
What is relevant is that it is utterly pointless and this "genius" is not soldering anything on that picture.

It's not pointless. It's thrifty. It's what people who like electronics work do when the cost of replacing something is high and the cost of fixing it is negligible. It can be frustrating. It can take a fair amount of time. But a repaired PCB can work just as well as a new one, so why spend money needlessly?

I think you took this stance because you're looking for excuses to disparage the kid, not because you can't imagine why someone would take a soldering tool to a PCB.

And again, I saw that particular video, he is not soldering anything he is using it as a pointer and points to that big chip for some reasons. That board which looks like it is from old CD changer is a useless junk which can not be used for anything, you can salvage few discrete components and that's it.
This kid is a weirdo, he appears to be fascinated with electronics "porn" but this fascination is just all he has, he does not do anything meaningful with it. I mean when I was 6-7 I was fascinated with electronics too and by the age of 10 I was doing meaningful stuff, what this 14 year old does is bullshit.

Oh, so his interest in electronics is porn, and you started jacking off at the age of 6-7? Thanks for the reminder not to take your posts seriously.

His "interest" in electronics is weird, and I explained why it is weird.

Because to you it's porn, which you started jacking off to when you were 6-7. You're right, that's weird.

He is collecting electronic junk without doing anything with it.

He built a pencil case clock with some of it, remember?

Correction! He placed the guts of a clock into the pencil case. Clock boy hasn't built a thing.