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January 6 Hearings Live

Any word from Sen Lankford?

On Monday he took the bold step of asking GSA about their “process”. Said he was satisfied and walked away. This by some degree is tethered to Biden getting intel briefings. Or could be if you need it to be.
I think after his initial comment last week, someone rapped him one and he has been mealy-mouthing his way back in line since.

Apparently he thinks the phrase “step in” means something different from what everyone else in the country thought it meant and is blaming others for twisting his words. Nice.
 
Apparently he thinks the phrase “step in” means something different from what everyone else in the country thought it meant and is blaming others for twisting his words. Nice.

I think we all know what it means to "step in dog shit".
The Senator stepped in it bigly when he intimated that he would try to countermand Trump's treasonous course of (in)action.
 
One of the Wayne County coupsters.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/DelWilber/status/1328860684352950278?s=20[/TWEET]
 
- So Sen. Graham tries to get mail-in ballots tossed in Georgia.

- Two Wayne County workers tried to hijack the state of Michigan's electoral votes.

- Countless accusations of fraud from Trump.

This is the closest the US has been to an 1876 election outcome since... well... 1876.
 
Giuliani asked the Trump campaign for $20,000 per day to represent it. This is what they're paying for.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/_AlexGookin/status/1328893248409047042?s=20[/TWEET]

Or as Hannity would say, nailed it.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1328884522021126145?s=20[/TWEET]
 
https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/politics/2020/11/18/rudy-giuliani-court

Rudy Giuliani makes a fool of himself in Federal court to overturn PA election

“You’re alleging that the two individual plaintiffs were denied the right to vote,” Brann said. “But at bottom, you’re asking this court to invalidate more than 6.8 million votes, thereby disenfranchising every single voter in the commonwealth. Can you tell me how this result can possibly be justified?”

In response, Giuliani said that Trump’s campaign was seeking only to throw out about 680,000 ballots cast in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, because, he said, Republican observers were not allowed to watch them being counted.

But Trump’s attorneys had removed legal claims relating to that issue in an amended version of the lawsuit they filed over the weekend, the judge reminded him.

“The poll-watching claims were deleted,” Brann told Giuliani. “They’re now not before this court, so why should I consider them now?”

The best part

At a different moment, Giuliani said: “I’m not quite sure what ‘opacity’ means. It probably means you can see.”

The judge responded: “It means you can’t.”
 
The worst thing about this coup is that it can actually work. Republicans are bending over backwards to please Trump, and all Trump has to do is flip three states. Even two might be enough.
 
Giuliani asked the Trump campaign for $20,000 per day to represent it. This is what they're paying for.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/_AlexGookin/status/1328893248409047042?s=20[/TWEET]

I'm sure Rudy is more of an expert in bird law rather than constitutional law. I can imagine him actually saying "I'll just regress, because I feel I've made myself perfectly redundant."
 
[TWEET]https://twitter.com/AmyEGardner/status/1329468989983125505[/TWEET]

What could this be? Surely not plotting to ignore the election results? :glare:
 
Meanwhile Cocaine Mitch is silent. What in the hell?!

The GOP are directly and in the wide open now trying to commit electoral fraud.
 
[TWEET]https://twitter.com/AmyEGardner/status/1329468989983125505[/TWEET]

What could this be? Surely not plotting to ignore the election results? :glare:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/1...ing-michigan-gop-lawmakers-to-the-white-house
After failing repeatedly in court to overturn election results, President Trump is taking the extraordinary step of reaching out directly to Republican state legislators as he tries to subvert the Electoral College process, inviting Michigan lawmakers to meet with him at the White House on Friday.

Mr. Trump contacted the Republican majority leader in the Michigan State Senate to issue the invitation, according to a person briefed on the invitation. It is not clear how many Michigan lawmakers will be making the trip to Washington, nor precisely what Mr. Trump plans to say to the lawmakers. The president has made few public appearances since the election and his daily schedule often has no events scheduled, despite the worsening coronavirus pandemic.

The White House invitation to Republican lawmakers in a battleground state is the latest — and the most brazen — salvo in a scattershot campaign-after-the-campaign waged by Mr. Trump and his allies to cast doubt on President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s decisive victory.

It comes as the Trump campaign and its allies have been seeking to overturn the results of the election in multiple states through lawsuits and intrusions into the state vote certification process, often targeting cities like Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Atlanta with large and politically powerful Black populations. Mr. Trump himself reached out personally to at least one election official in Wayne County, Mich., home of Detroit, who tried to decertify the results there.

Some members of Mr. Trump’s team have promoted the legally dubious theory that friendly legislatures could under certain scenarios effectively subvert the popular vote and send their own, pro-Trump delegations to the Electoral College.

The Michigan Senate leader who received Mr. Trump’s invitation, Mike Shirkey, said in an interview earlier this week with Bridge Michigan, a local news outlet, that the Legislature would not move to appoint its own slate of electors, stating, “That’s not going to happen.”
 
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The Michigan Senate leader who received Mr. Trump’s invitation, Mike Shirkey, said in an interview earlier this week with Bridge Michigan, a local news outlet, that the Legislature would not move to appoint its own slate of electors, stating, “That’s not going to happen.”

Mighty bold words for someone who hasn't yet listened to the upcoming "offer he can't refuse..."
 
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The Michigan Senate leader who received Mr. Trump’s invitation, Mike Shirkey, said in an interview earlier this week with Bridge Michigan, a local news outlet, that the Legislature would not move to appoint its own slate of electors, stating, “That’s not going to happen.”

Mighty bold words for someone who hasn't yet listened to the upcoming "offer he can't refuse..."

Like $Million and a Pardon? Question is is federal or state law? Probably state so pardon is not good.
 
Meanwhile Cocaine Mitch is silent. What in the hell?!

The GOP are directly and in the wide open now trying to commit electoral fraud.

Why not?

Fail and don't try produce the same result -- lose the presidency.

Success means they remain in power forever.
 
A pause button here.

The United States Constitution and Federal law do not prescribe the method of appointment other thanrequiring that electors must be appointed on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November (November8, 2016).
Now if state laws require the winning candidate get their slate of electors who are already known it would be a pretty slimy and obvious public stink bomb to use state legislature choice in place of voters choice.

If you haven't noticed November 8 has long since passed. I'm pretty sure courts would take offense to such attempts without strong (already found to be demonstratively nonexistent) justification.
 
A pause button here.

The United States Constitution and Federal law do not prescribe the method of appointment other thanrequiring that electors must be appointed on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November (November8, 2016).
Now if state laws require the winning candidate get their slate of electors who are already known it would be a pretty slimy and obvious public stink bomb to use state legislature choice in place of voters choice.

If you haven't noticed November 8 has long since passed. I'm pretty sure courts would take offense to such attempts without strong (already found to be demonstratively nonexistent) justification.

I would agree wholeheartedly except that it’s ultimately going to be in the hands of the Supreme Court, one stuffed by Trump appointees. Roberts doesn’t want this. He will vote against it. Kavanaugh is dying to get revenge who tried to sabotage his coronation. The new lady will do what the men want. Alito has already shown his hand and Thomas fears replacement in the coming four years. That leaves Gorsuch, Trump’s first appointee, as the deciding vote. Scary thought.

SLD
 
This whole thread represents a very dangerous game. When you stop letting people choose their leaders with their votes, they will start to choose their leaders with violence. When given the choice, choose ballots over bullets.
 
Trump uses power of presidency to try to overturn the election and stay in office - The Washington Post
After courts rejected the Trump campaign’s baseless allegations of widespread voter fraud, the president is now trying to remain in power with a wholesale assault on the integrity of the vote by spreading misinformation and trying to persuade loyal Republicans to manipulate the electoral system on his behalf.

In an extraordinary news conference Thursday at the Republican National Committee headquarters, Trump’s attorneys claimed without evidence there was a centralized conspiracy with roots in Venezuela to rig the U.S. presidential election. They alleged voter fraud in Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia and other cities whose municipal governments are controlled by Democrats and where President-elect Joe Biden won by large margins.

“We cannot allow these crooks — ’cause that’s what they are — to steal an election from the American people,” said one of the attorneys, Rudolph W. Giuliani. “They elected Donald Trump; they didn’t elect Joe Biden. Joe Biden is in the lead because of the fraudulent ballots, the illegal ballots that were produced and that were allowed to be used after the election was over. Give us an opportunity to prove it in court and we will.”

Neither Giuliani nor other Trump attorneys have furnished evidence to support that or any other claim of widespread fraud.
 
Are Rural Voters the ‘Real’ Voters? Wisconsin Republicans Seem to Think So - The New York Times - from 2018 Dec 6 - "A last-minute power grab by state lawmakers draws on an argument as old as the nation."
In much of Wisconsin, “Madison and Milwaukee” are code words (to some, dog whistles) for the parts of the state that are nonwhite, elite, different: The cities are where people don’t have to work hard with their hands, because they’re collecting welfare or public-sector paychecks.

That stereotype updates a very old idea in American politics, one pervading Wisconsin’s bitter Statehouse fights today and increasingly those in other states: Urban voters are an exception. If you discount them, you get a truer picture of the politics — and the will of voters — in a state.

Thomas Jefferson believed as much — “the mobs of great cities add just so much to support of pure government,” he wrote, “as sores do to the strength of the human body.”
 
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