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January 6 Hearings Live

T.G.G. Moogly said:
Cyber Ninjas has no experience auditing elections. That makes them the perfect candidate for doing audits by Trumpkin reasoning. The less experience you have at doing something, the better qualified you are for the job. That's trumpkin logic.
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Yabut they knew the right answer to “What did you find?” right from the start!
 
crazyfingers said:
The clown show "Audit" in Arizona has come out with a major lie.
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It isn't a lie. He stated a fact that was true and wildly incomplete. Much like if I say there wasn't a pandemic because in 2020 there was population growth in the US. But the statement was true and verifiable. Which is the worst kind of truth telling, ie, holding facts grossly out of context.
 
It isn't a lie. He stated a fact that was true and wildly incomplete.
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In my experience, those are the most effective(useful) kind of lies.

The partial truth kind of lies.

Tom
 
McCarthy makes his 5 GOP picks for Jan. 6 select committee - POLITICO
While the California Republican took his time deciding between naming more experienced members to the probe, filling his seats with firebrands, and refusing to tap any members at all, McCarthy ultimately chose to go with the former route with his selections. His picks have the committee leadership and oversight chops to counter Democrats who are expected to use the select panel to hammer Donald Trump and the GOP for fueling the deadly assault on the Capitol.

McCarthy’s choices for the panel, all talked about as likely, are led by Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.), chair of the Republican Study Committee, as the ranking member. Banks, who oversees the largest House GOP caucus, is viewed within the party as a skilled messenger.

The other members include Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, a moderate who serves as the top Republican on the House Administration Committee; Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee; Rep. Kelly Armstrong (R-N.D.), a lawyer by trade who served on the House Judiciary Committee during the first Trump impeachment; and freshman Rep. Troy Nehls (R-Texas), a former sheriff who supported Capitol Police in turning back rioters who tried to break into the House floor during the siege.
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Jim Jordan is a Tea Partier and a Trumpie.

Former House Speaker John Boehner recalls him, and his recollections are not very flattering. Almost as if one might expect him to do to this commission what he did to JB's career.

John Boehner, Finally, Unloads On The Republican Right Wing
Particularly not the ingrates who gave him a majority – with his help – and then turned on him with their "Freedom Caucus," ultimately driving him out of office in 2015.

"In the 2010 midterm election, voters from all over the place gave President Obama what he himself called a 'shellacking,' '' Boehner wrote. "And oh boy, was it ever. You could be a total moron and get elected just by having an R next to your name – and that year, by the way, we did pick up a fair number in that category."

Some more examples of Boehner dumping on his political foes in the new book:

On the new GOP House members elected in 2010:

"All of this crap swirling around was going to make it tough for me to cut any deals with Obama as the new House Speaker. Of course, it has to be said that Obama didn't help himself much either. He could come off as lecturing and haughty. He still wasn't making Republican outreach a priority. But on the other hand – how do you find common cause with people who think you are a secret Kenyan Muslim traitor to America?"

On Jim Jordan, the Ohio congressman who was a leader of the revolt that drove Boehner out of office, from an earlier interview with Politico:

"A legislative terrorist."
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Kevin McCarthy's picks for the 1/6 commission reveal his true goals - CNNPolitics
Of the five, three -- Banks, Jordan and Nehls -- voted to object to the to the 2020 Electoral College results despite the fact that there is zero evidence of any widespread voter fraud or major irregularities. Both Banks and Jordan also signed on to a Texas lawsuit aimed at invalidating votes in several key swing states, a suit that was summarily rejected by the Supreme Court.

Even without all of that, the choice of Jordan alone makes very clear what McCarthy wants out of the committee. Jordan is extremely close to Trump and has built his reputation on his willingness to be a dogged interrogator of witnesses not to mention his willingness to carry the former President's water -- as he did during Trump's first impeachment trial.

What Jordan's presence on the committee ensures then is that it will be a circus.
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With lots of bullying of witnesses and advocating of conspiracy theories.

AOC was recently interviewed on this issue, and she says that House R leader Kevin McCarthy wants to be the "chauffeur of the clown car" and to champion "the most ludicrous, irresponsible, and dangerous members of his party" instead of "the more even-keeled and responsible members of his party." She called his leadership "shameful", but she said that it would not stop Democrats and responsible people in general. As to Speaker NP vetoing KMC's picks, she leaves that decision to her. She then stated that some of KMC's picks were of supporters of the insurrection. She then said that some of KMC's picks are "insulting" not only on a party basis but to the country.
 
As to Speaker NP vetoing KMC's picks, she leaves that decision to her. She then stated that some of KMC's picks were of supporters of the insurrection. She then said that some of KMC's picks are "insulting" not only on a party basis but to the country.
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I wonder if this is 'giving them enough rope to hang themselves'?
Could attempts to shout down or bully witnesses be counted as obstruction of justice?
Or at least 'contempt of Congress?'
 
Pelosi said F-Off on the two that supported not certifying the vote. McCarthy, has then pulled his 5 nominees.

article said:
Pelosi's decision to reject the two Republicans -- and McCarthy's response to pull the rest his members -- injected new fuel into the partisan fight over the select committee that's been raging since Democrats created the panel last month to investigate the circumstances surrounding the January 6 attack on the Capitol.
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Of course the GOP wants nothing to be looked at for the riot, because several members of the GOP caucus incited it!

And with McConnell saying they won't lift the debt ceiling, our Government is almost officially broken and has about reached a point of no return.
 
Jim Jordan among GOP leader Kevin McCarthy's picks for Jan. 6 select committee
"Jordan has been a Trump firebrand in Congress, often haranguing witnesses and criticizing Democrats during high-profile hearings."

Trump defender Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan to get presidential medal of freedom - "Jordan was one of the 147 Republican representatives and senators who took part in the last-ditch effort to derail Biden’s legitimate victory by raising objections to the Electoral College results and echoing Trump’s baseless claims of a rigged election."


Pelosi may veto McCarthy's Jan. 6 select committee picks - NY Post
Speaker Nancy Pelosi hasn’t ruled out vetoing House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s selections to serve on the Jan. 6 select committee — saying Tuesday she will make a decision on whether she will approve his picks when “I’m ready.”
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Democrats begrudgingly accept McCarthy’s picks for Jan. 6 committee - POLITICO
Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), one of the last lawmakers to leave the House floor during the insurrection, reserved his strongest criticism for the GOP leader.

“This is McCarthy basically saying he didn't give a shit,” McGovern said, adding that, "I'm not OK" with having members like Jordan on the committee. “But what can I do about it?”

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), another Pelosi-tapped select committee member, said the panel would impose “serious parliamentary order” in an effort to tamp down disruption, adding he hoped the Republican members “take their responsibilities seriously.”
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Rep. Pramila Jayapal conceded that KMC's choices could have been "even worse". Like Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert.
“Kevin McCarthy has decided that he wants to be chauffeur of the clown car, and he's not just not taking this responsibility seriously, but any of the responsibilities surrounding [Jan. 6] seriously. [P]eople died right here on these steps,” said progressive Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) as she walked up the Capitol's East Front.

“They died. And he wants to make a joke out of this," she added. "So frankly, he should just turn in his pin.”
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Jim Jordan is a master of distraction.

He is dishonest and has no morality.

He turned away as kids were abused.
 
Cheney has run out of fucks.

Liz Cheney backs Pelosi over McCarthy following Jan. 6 committee bombshell | The Week

When asked whether she believes McCarthy should become House Speaker, Cheney effectively rejected such a notion, replying, "I think that any person who would be third in line to the presidency must demonstrate a commitment to the Constitution and a commitment to the rule of law and Minority Leader McCarthy has not done that."

"At every opportunity, the minority leader has attempted to prevent the American people from understanding what happened, to block this investigation," Cheney also argued.

The Wyoming representative, one of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) eight picks for the 13-member committee, shared her support for the veto of Reps. Jim Banks (R-Ind.) and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio). "[Pelosi] objected to two [of McCarthy's picks], one of whom may well be a material witness to events that led to ... Jan. 6. The other, who disqualified himself by his comments in particular over the last 24 hours demonstrating that he is not taking this seriously," said Cheney, referring to Jordan then Banks. The lawmaker also made sure to note that McCarthy voted against "the very best option" to investigate the events of Jan. 6 — a bipartisan commission.

She went on: "The idea that anybody would be playing politics with an attack on the United States Capitol is despicable and is disgraceful."
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I am so glad they won't be giving airtime to the seditious brainlet Jordan.
 
These Republicans are nothing more than American Arafats - and should be called out as such.
 
The Hill on Twitter: "Rep. @AOC: "I think that McCarthy's decision to seat Jim Jordan was intentional and he's trying to make a mockery, like most of his other work, make a mockery of pretty much everything he touches." (links)" / Twitter
AOC then praised Nancy Pelosi for kicking off Jim Jordan and Jim Banks.

McCarthy yanks all GOP picks from Jan. 6 committee | TheHill
KMC:
"Unless Speaker Pelosi reverses course and seats all five Republican nominees, Republicans will not be party to their sham process and will instead pursue our own investigation of the facts," he said in a statement.
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He ought to do so.
"This represents an egregious abuse of power and will irreparably damage this institution," he said in his statement. "Denying the voices of members who have served in the military and law enforcement, as well as leaders of standing committees, has made it undeniable that this panel has lost all legitimacy and credibility and shows the Speaker is more interested in playing politics than seeking the truth."
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What a big baby.

First the Democrats propose a bipartisan commission. The Senate Republicans reject it without as much as a peep from KMC. Then the House Democrats decide to go ahead on their own. Then KMC gets all butthurt rather than yelling at the Senate Republicans about what they enabled.
 
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President Trump (March 2021) said:
I wanted — I mean, personally, what I wanted is what they wanted. They showed up just to show support, because I happen to believe the election was rigged at a level like nothing has ever been rigged before.
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"Show support"? I'll take "Talking Down Things" for $1600.
President Trump (March 2021) said:
I think that the vice president of the United States must protect the Constitution of the United States, right? And it says very, very clearly, protect the Constitution of the United States. I don’t believe he’s just supposed to be a statue who gets these votes from the states and immediately hands them over.
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Pelosi kicks kooks off coup committee.
In June, weeks after Senate Republicans filibustered legislation to set up an independent, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6 Capitol riot, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi moved ahead with Plan B: setting up a select committee within the House to perform the investigation. This one, like Republicans’ select committee to investigate the Benghazi attacks last decade, would be far more partisan in tilt.
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That Benghazi committee had 12 members instead of this one's 13, but like this one, 5 members were picked in consultation with the Minority Leader. NP was Minority Leader for the Benghazi committee, and all 5 of her picks were accepted.

Pelosi Statement on Republican Recommendations to Serve on the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol | Speaker Nancy Pelosi
“With respect for the integrity of the investigation, with an insistence on the truth and with concern about statements made and actions taken by these Members, I must reject the recommendations of Representatives Banks and Jordan to the Select Committee.

“The unprecedented nature of January 6th demands this unprecedented decision.”
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The committee now has one Republican, Liz Cheney, and NP may appoint more, like Adam Kinzinger.

Author Jim Newell concludes that NP is feeling her oats.
It is also difficult not to appreciate this latest burst of resolve from late-stage, post-Jan. 6 Nancy Pelosi, who continues to spend what’s likely her final term in Congress simply going for it. She has wholly abandoned the thumb-twiddling anxiety that typically defines Democratic leadership. This Congress, she’s impeached a president for the second time, stripped a Republican member of their committee positions along near-partisan lines, and pledged to sit on a bipartisan Senate infrastructure bill for as long as she pleases. Now she’s actually played the “consultation” veto card on minority committee appointments because she thinks the appointees are scumbags. Part of this is a longtime party leader operating at the height of confidence. But it’s also an extension of a post-Jan. 6 attitude change among House Democrats: House Republicans can’t just abet Trump’s effort to overturn an election and expect to be afforded their traditional privileges.
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NP will likely go down in history as one of the most successful House Speakers ever.
 
 
I don’t know . . . Maybe MTG would be a good pick for the panel? That way we could truly see her for the utter fucking moron she is.
 
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