Moved Live Trump Trial Updates

[Colonel Sanders]

Is there a thread to complain about the content and organization of the post-rational World Wide Web? I have many such complaints!
Especially annoying are click-bait stories. Maybe most of you are too smart to fall for such crap, but I'm a sucker for sentimental stories, even when I know they're fiction. A simple story that can be completed in 3 paragraphs drags out over literally 30 or 40 clicks or even more! Each click brings you another sentence or two of the story. (The clicks bring ads of course. I'd like to see a movement to list the advertisers and have millions of us agree NEVER to buy anything from those advertisers!)

But I'm posting about Transcripts for the trial New York vs Trump. It took me several clicks just to find a link, but once I found nycourts.gov or WTF it was, my problems had only just begun.

First I had to "prove I was not a robot." That's fair, perhaps -- they may need to prevent Trumplickers from organizing a Denial of Service attack. But after proving (TWICE) that I was a non-robot, I was finally presented with a tiny pdf file with one (1) tiny page. Click 'Next' to get another tiny page. No idea how many teeny-tiny transcript pages it takes per day; these teeny-tiny pdfs were useless for me. Is nycourts.gov unaware that more than one page can be bundled into a single pdf file?

I gave up. But after a few minutes, I selected that Tab again to see if they even had URLs I could download en masse via script. But guess what? I was asked yet a THIRD time to "prove that I was not a robot."

Has some news organization whose web designers have 100+ IQs, if any, bundled these transcripts into files that are not useless?

It's so aggravating. Pop up ads, delays, reloads, misleading headlines, poor content, etc.

20+ years ago, one of my favorite things to do was to go buy a newspaper and then go sit at a bar and read. Sometimes I'd get a Times magazine or whatever. I'm glad I gave myself that experience because those days are never coming back.

I've become convinced that the rise of Trump is a direct reflection on American literacy. People who would never pick up a newspaper or read a book were given access to bright colors, writing that was made for people with a 5th grade reading level, and pandered to by giving them a sense of importance by communicating to them that they were every bit as informed as book readers.

The internet allowed all the village idiots to congregate in one spot and gave them a voice.

 

[TomC]

Is there a thread to complain about the content and organization of the post-rational World Wide Web? I have many such complaints!
Especially annoying are click-bait stories. Maybe most of you are too smart to fall for such crap, but I'm a sucker for sentimental stories, even when I know they're fiction. A simple story that can be completed in 3 paragraphs drags out over literally 30 or 40 clicks or even more! Each click brings you another sentence or two of the story. (The clicks bring ads of course. I'd like to see a movement to list the advertisers and have millions of us agree NEVER to buy anything from those advertisers!)

But I'm posting about Transcripts for the trial New York vs Trump. It took me several clicks just to find a link, but once I found nycourts.gov or WTF it was, my problems had only just begun.

First I had to "prove I was not a robot." That's fair, perhaps -- they may need to prevent Trumplickers from organizing a Denial of Service attack. But after proving (TWICE) that I was a non-robot, I was finally presented with a tiny pdf file with one (1) tiny page. Click 'Next' to get another tiny page. No idea how many teeny-tiny transcript pages it takes per day; these teeny-tiny pdfs were useless for me. Is nycourts.gov unaware that more than one page can be bundled into a single pdf file?

I gave up. But after a few minutes, I selected that Tab again to see if they even had URLs I could download en masse via script. But guess what? I was asked yet a THIRD time to "prove that I was not a robot."

Has some news organization whose web designers have 100+ IQs, if any, bundled these transcripts into files that are not useless?

It's so aggravating. Pop up ads, delays, reloads, misleading headlines, poor content, etc.

20+ years ago, one of my favorite things to do was to go buy a newspaper and then go sit at a bar and read. Sometimes I'd get a Times magazine or whatever. I'm glad I gave myself that experience because those days are never coming back.

I've become convinced that the rise of Trump is a direct reflection on American literacy. People who would never pick up a newspaper or read a book were given access to bright colors, writing that was made for people with a 5th grade reading level, and pandered to by giving them a sense of importance by communicating to them that they were every bit as informed as book readers.

The internet allowed all the village idiots to congregate in one spot and gave them a voice.

Much as I agree with you both, there is a "Rants" thread.
But this is not it.

Us oldsters should go yell at clouds there.
Tom

 

[Swammerdami]

I will keep this subthread alive. It is NOT off-topic: I DO want those transcripts.

It's so aggravating. Pop up ads, delays, reloads, misleading headlines, poor content, etc.

20+ years ago, one of my favorite things to do was to go buy a newspaper and then go sit at a bar and read. Sometimes I'd get a Times magazine or whatever. I'm glad I gave myself that experience because those days are never coming back.

I've become convinced that the rise of Trump is a direct reflection on American literacy. People who would never pick up a newspaper or read a book were given access to bright colors, writing that was made for people with a 5th grade reading level, and pandered to by giving them a sense of importance by communicating to them that they were every bit as informed as book readers.

The internet allowed all the village idiots to congregate in one spot and gave them a voice.

Finally! Someone who agrees with me.

I even started a thread on Stupidism, the dominant political force in today's USA. Stupid voters who cheerfully vote for someone pretending to be even stupider than the voter!

And I also have fond memories of the Age of Literacy. I even subscribed to the IHT (renamed NY Times International edition when NYT bought out WashPost's half) and The Atlantic when I lived in rural Thailand despite that IHT came 5 days late, and I didn't get the January Atlantic until February's edition was already availabe for free on their website!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I will keep this subthread alive. It is NOT off-topic: I DO want those transcripts.

It's so aggravating. Pop up ads, delays, reloads, misleading headlines, poor content, etc.

20+ years ago, one of my favorite things to do was to go buy a newspaper and then go sit at a bar and read. Sometimes I'd get a Times magazine or whatever. I'm glad I gave myself that experience because those days are never coming back.

I've become convinced that the rise of Trump is a direct reflection on American literacy. People who would never pick up a newspaper or read a book were given access to bright colors, writing that was made for people with a 5th grade reading level, and pandered to by giving them a sense of importance by communicating to them that they were every bit as informed as book readers.

The internet allowed all the village idiots to congregate in one spot and gave them a voice.

Finally! Someone who agrees with me.

I even started a thread on Stupidism, the dominant political force in today's USA. Stupid voters who cheerfully vote for someone pretending to be even stupider than the voter!

It is important to get this right... some of Trump's supporters are the dumbest fuckers in the country. But a not inconsequential amount of them are not stupid. Politically, they might be dumb as rocks, but a lot of Trump's supporters are hard working people who might actually be good at a number of things. They've just been raised on far-right media and they have no clue what America really is.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

I will keep this subthread alive. It is NOT off-topic: I DO want those transcripts.

It's so aggravating. Pop up ads, delays, reloads, misleading headlines, poor content, etc.

20+ years ago, one of my favorite things to do was to go buy a newspaper and then go sit at a bar and read. Sometimes I'd get a Times magazine or whatever. I'm glad I gave myself that experience because those days are never coming back.

I've become convinced that the rise of Trump is a direct reflection on American literacy. People who would never pick up a newspaper or read a book were given access to bright colors, writing that was made for people with a 5th grade reading level, and pandered to by giving them a sense of importance by communicating to them that they were every bit as informed as book readers.

The internet allowed all the village idiots to congregate in one spot and gave them a voice.

Finally! Someone who agrees with me.

I even started a thread on Stupidism, the dominant political force in today's USA. Stupid voters who cheerfully vote for someone pretending to be even stupider than the voter!

It is important to get this right... some of Trump's supporters are the dumbest fuckers in the country. But a not inconsequential amount of them are not stupid. Politically, they might be dumb as rocks, but a lot of Trump's supporters are hard working people who might actually be good at a number of things. They've just been raised on far-right media and they have no clue what America really is.

My sister is well educated by any metric, but she's still a moron.

I was raised by Reaganite parents and thought Rush Limbaugh was great when I was young. I even had a shameful flirtation with Ayn Rand for awhile, but that eventually put me on the path to learn more because I loved to read. My brother, OTOH, was always interested in politics, but he's not a reader, so he's remained stuck in the same place since we were in high school. Jade Helm, adrenochrome--all that bullshit? The dummy's all in on all of it. He doesn't have a low IQ and is a skilled tradesman, but like my sister, he's still a fucking moron.

If one supports Trump, they support stupidity and tyranny. And frankly I find it much more infuriating to see my country get razed to the ground by idiocy than if nuclear war were to occur.

 

[Derec]

Oh, please. The Right went into ecstasies of sarcastic humor when Paula Jones claimed she knew "distinguishing characteristics" of Clinton's cock. Limbaugh did bits about it.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

You think if Hillary were somehow vulnerable to this sort of speculation, that there'd have been any pullback from Righties?

And the same people rejoicing at graphic descriptions of Little Donald would have rage fits, calling everyone who dare do it "misogynist" and the like.

Trump made this a public topic when he referred unmistakeably to his own supposed girth and might on a primary debate stage. So, find a double standard if you want.

Which debate was that?

 

[Derec]

So cute when Derec gets all butthurt about people making fun of his orange avatar …

Orange avatar? I don't even like the guy, nor have I voted for him.

But this line of attack is not a fair one, and exposes a double standard on the Left.

 

[jonatha]

Which debate was that?

11th Republican Party primary debate in Detroit, 3 March 2016.

2016 Republican Party presidential debates and forums - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Swammerdami]

You think if Hillary were somehow vulnerable to this sort of speculation, that there'd have been any pullback from Righties?

And the same people rejoicing at graphic descriptions of Little Donald would have rage fits, calling everyone who dare do it "misogynist" and the like.

Talk about missing the whole main point!

Creed's Anagram: "I dare say you haven't had much practice. Why sometimes I've missed the main point six times before breakfast."

To make the, well, main point let's stipulate for now that the philandering sins of Bill C. and Donnie T. were equivalent. Bill was impeached for his sins, while Trump's crimes, sins and faults were so numerous that anyone focused on his sexual assaults would have been accused of ... missing the main point.

Clinton's team lost the election of 2000 with many Blueshirts staying home or pulling the Bush lever out of disgust for Bill's philandering. Donnie's team idolizes their predator: His bragging about sexual assaults is just "locker talk."

Donnie brags about his lust for daughter Ivanka. Did Bill lust for Chelsea?

The Ilk Derec supports treated Bill's philandering as the greatest crime since the St. Valentine's Day massacre, or since the time Abe Lincoln -- (did you know he was Republican? Not many do) -- freed the slaves. The very same Ilk screams at Trump's opponents to Shut Up. He never had sex with that woman, she's not his type (despite being the spitting image of his ex-wife Marla), and the sex with her wasn't any good anyway.

To listen to the Ilk the consensual blowjob was the biggest calamity to befall the Republic between Pearl Harbor and the Benghazi Massacre. Even the most ardent anti-Licker thinks it hardly worth the bother to add perjury or rape to the 95 indictments against the Orange Sociopath.

Yes, I do think the quote from Aimless sums it up rather well:

Creed's Anagram: "I dare say you haven't had much practice. Why sometimes I've missed the main point six times before breakfast."

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Is there a thread to complain about the content and organization of the post-rational World Wide Web? I have many such complaints!
Especially annoying are click-bait stories. Maybe most of you are too smart to fall for such crap, but I'm a sucker for sentimental stories, even when I know they're fiction. A simple story that can be completed in 3 paragraphs drags out over literally 30 or 40 clicks or even more! Each click brings you another sentence or two of the story. (The clicks bring ads of course. I'd like to see a movement to list the advertisers and have millions of us agree NEVER to buy anything from those advertisers!)

But I'm posting about Transcripts for the trial New York vs Trump. It took me several clicks just to find a link, but once I found nycourts.gov or WTF it was, my problems had only just begun.

First I had to "prove I was not a robot." That's fair, perhaps -- they may need to prevent Trumplickers from organizing a Denial of Service attack. But after proving (TWICE) that I was a non-robot, I was finally presented with a tiny pdf file with one (1) tiny page. Click 'Next' to get another tiny page. No idea how many teeny-tiny transcript pages it takes per day; these teeny-tiny pdfs were useless for me. Is nycourts.gov unaware that more than one page can be bundled into a single pdf file?

I gave up. But after a few minutes, I selected that Tab again to see if they even had URLs I could download en masse via script. But guess what? I was asked yet a THIRD time to "prove that I was not a robot."

Has some news organization whose web designers have 100+ IQs, if any, bundled these transcripts into files that are not useless?

Sorry, I don’t share info with robots.

 

[ideologyhunter]

But this line of attack is not a fair one, and exposes a double standard on the Left.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. When a sadist like Trump, for years and years, assaults others with extremely personal attacks, including references to their physicality -- even mocking a man with a muscle disorder -- then he deserves the same coin.
You surely don't need a list of the personal belittling insults Trump has launched, do you? It's a long one.

 

[Elixir]

I don't even like the guy, nor have I voted for him.

Oooookay …
I don’t really care who you like.
I see what you say.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So cute when Derec gets all butthurt about people making fun of his orange avatar …

Orange avatar? I don't even like the guy, nor have I voted for him.

But this line of attack is not a fair one, and exposes a double standard on the Left.

In general, I'd agree. The issue here is Trump is a special case. The guy's mouth is bigger than his combover. He lacks any sense of humility. Trump makes Don Rickles look like Jimmy Carter. Additionally, Trump is all about image, or at least the one he has tried to project since he was calling in to radio stations pretending to be someone else to talk up how awesome Donald Trump is.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trump lawyer suggests women can't possibly be victims of sexual harassment because they are women and they should expect it.

According to NBC News, Necheles told Daniels during cross-examination that she acted and had sex in over 250 adult films, to which Daniels replied it was around 150 films.

Necheles pressed Daniels, implying that it was odd that, having seen naked men and women having sex in all of those adult films, she would be so shocked at the sight of Trump in boxers and a T-shirt that she nearly fainted.

link

This seems to be quite an odd way to make Daniels appear to be lying. "Well, you couldn't possibly have been surprised to see Trump with his pants down, you are a porn star! Are you trying to tell me that a man in his 60s, with his pants down in front of you was somehow disturbing?" I mean, every woman on the jury probably rolled their eyes to the back of their head with that.

 

[laughing dog]

Tammy Wynette stood by her man...

I thought she stood by the JAMs ...

Today's headline, if I wrote it: TRUMP CAUSES MASSIVE INFLATION
Stormy: It was a mini-toadstool, give or take.
Trump: It is the mighty Orange-Pink Speckled Woman Tamer, as anyone can tell you.

Imagine the outrage if people were making fun of the appearance of a female Dem's vagina or vulva ...

Why? Your pointless "whataboutisms" save everyone the energy and time.

 

[TomC]

But this line of attack is not a fair one, and exposes a double standard on the Left.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. When a sadist like Trump, for years and years, assaults others with extremely personal attacks, including references to their physicality -- even mocking a man with a muscle disorder -- then he deserves the same coin.
You surely don't need a list of the personal belittling insults Trump has launched, do you? It's a long one.

I'm trying to imagine the response to a busty female politician telling reporters:
"When you have knockers like mine, you can grab any guy you want by the cock. They love it!"
Especially if she's a Democrat.
Tom

 

[Swammerdami]

Imagine the outrage if people were making fun of the appearance of a female Dem's vagina or vulva ...

Why? Your pointless "whataboutisms" save everyone the energy and time.

Please don't discourage Derec. His incessant "whataboutisms" may be pointless but they ARE amusing. Sure they're predictable, but like the best slapstick that just adds to the amusement!

I wonder if Derec remembers that it was Marco Rubio -- now a hard-core Trumplicker -- who started the meme by telling Donnie that his small hands implied another deficit, to which the Sociopath-in-Chief replied "I promise you there's no problem down there."

Can you imagine how Derec and his Ilk would react if two Democratic women had an exchange like that?

 

[Elixir]

Can you imagine how Derec and his Ilk would react if two Democratic women had an exchange like that?

Prob’ly about the same as they react to Democratic women, regardless.

 

[SLD]

 

[ideologyhunter]

Lawrence O'Donnell opened his show tonight with the 'Orange Turd' testimony. Trump's lawyer (Susan Necheles) was grilling Stormy about a social post where she referred to Trump as an O.T. This went on and on, with O.T. being repeated over and over, while the T. himself was sitting there in court. Nice little footnote to the history of the 2020s.