Loose lips and drunk SOD

[Jimmy Higgins]

If I were Goldberg, I might have remained silent expecting to be included on more such chats. (Pretend to be unaware of the chat if caught.) I'd post the chats publicly only after one of the imbeciles wrote something really stupid or incriminating ... posting AFTER taking asylum in a safe country.

Instead Goldberg reveals this first secret chat publicly? ???? Treasonous -- expect the guy to be in jail soon.

Because it was a leak. This was reported in part to hopefully stop the Trump Admin from putting our military at risk!

How bad would it have been if it had leaked?

VP:

I understand your concerns – and fully support you raising w/ POTUS. Important considerations, most of which are tough to know how they play out (economy, Ukraine peace, Gaza, etc). I think messaging is going to be tough no matter what – nobody knows who the Houthis are – which is why we would need to stay focused on: 1) Biden failed & 2) Iran funded.

Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus. 2 immediate risks on waiting: 1) this leaks, and we look indecisive; 2) Israel takes an action first – or Gaza cease fire falls apart – and we don’t get to start this on our own terms. We can manage both.

If any foreign Intel group had some claws in one of the phones on that group chat, they saw everything.

As far as a trap for the journalist. It'd been against the law to share classified info on that app, so it'd be a very dangerous trap for people laying it out. As things stand, laws we're likely broken by the inept dumbasses of the Trump Admin as is. No one else checked who was on the chat?!

 

[Swammerdami]

If I were Goldberg, I might have remained silent expecting to be included on more such chats. (Pretend to be unaware of the chat if caught.) I'd post the chats publicly only after one of the imbeciles wrote something really stupid or incriminating ... posting AFTER taking asylum in a safe country.

Instead Goldberg reveals this first secret chat publicly? ???? Treasonous -- expect the guy to be in jail soon.

Because it was a leak. This was reported in part to hopefully stop the Trump Admin from putting our military at risk!

How bad would it have been if it had leaked?

I read comments like this, and wonder if people do not understand how bleak and desperate our situation is.

If you were a German in the early 1940's opposed to the Nazis and their goals and had the opportunity to take effective measures against the Nazi regime, would you have worried about putting the Wehrmacht at risk?

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Elixir]

Because it was a leak.

When you turn on a hose at the wall, then grab the nozzle and open it up, that ain’t no leak.

 

[Axulus]

Adam Schiff said it best:

"Goldberg is not a loser, Mike [Waltz], you're the loser, and America loses for having such an incompetent bozo like you as national security advisor."

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Curious whether that implies old info or new info. We all very likely have data on us for sale. If it is their current numbers, that... might be an issue, but it might be less bad than we think. Current passwords at work or for phones, and that'd be bad.

 

[Axulus]

Curious whether that implies old info or new info. We all very likely have data on us for sale. If it is their current numbers, that... might be an issue, but it might be less bad than we think. Current passwords at work or for phones, and that'd be bad.

Either way, it is an unacceptable risk.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Curious whether that implies old info or new info. We all very likely have data on us for sale. If it is their current numbers, that... might be an issue, but it might be less bad than we think. Current passwords at work or for phones, and that'd be bad.

Either way, it is an unacceptable risk.

If someone is selling Hegseth's password to an email account at Drunk4Life.com that he hasn't used since W was President, that isn't a problem. If people are selling passwords on his current cell phone, that is a problem. If it was supposed to be secure and he fucked that up, even worse problem.

 

[Axulus]

Curious whether that implies old info or new info. We all very likely have data on us for sale. If it is their current numbers, that... might be an issue, but it might be less bad than we think. Current passwords at work or for phones, and that'd be bad.

Either way, it is an unacceptable risk.

If someone is selling Hegseth's password to an email account at Drunk4Life.com that he hasn't used since W was President, that isn't a problem. If people are selling passwords on his current cell phone, that is a problem. If it was supposed to be secure and he fucked that up, even worse problem.

From the linked article:

Most of these numbers and email addresses are apparently still in use, with some of them linked to profiles on social media platforms like Instagram and LinkedIn. They were used to create Dropbox accounts and profiles in apps that track running data. There are also WhatsApp profiles for the respective phone numbers and even Signal accounts in some cases.

 

[Elixir]

 

[barbos]

This calls for a serious amount of Whadabout!

Happy to oblige.
Reminded me "Fuck the EU" moment Obama administration had. In case you forgot Obama was a democrat.

Wow. Not even close to close.

It's actually worse. In case of Obama, his officials were using 100% insecure line to discuss their shenanigans.
In both cases they were highly disrespectful toward Europe.

Sez the guy who's boss constantly threatens European countries.

Trump is not my boss.

It his buddy Putin is. And Putin sure does act like a huge threat to Europe

Europe is the main threat to Europe. Russia has not threatened Europe

Ukraine is part of Europe, and he is doing much more than threatening it.

And it is also part of Russia. And it has threatened to Russia which is in Europe.

 

[Toni]

This calls for a serious amount of Whadabout!

Happy to oblige.
Reminded me "Fuck the EU" moment Obama administration had. In case you forgot Obama was a democrat.

Wow. Not even close to close.

It's actually worse. In case of Obama, his officials were using 100% insecure line to discuss their shenanigans.
In both cases they were highly disrespectful toward Europe.

Sez the guy who's boss constantly threatens European countries.

Trump is not my boss.

It his buddy Putin is. And Putin sure does act like a huge threat to Europe

Europe is the main threat to Europe. Russia has not threatened Europe

Ukraine is part of Europe, and he is doing much more than threatening it.

And it is also part of Russia.

No. It is not. Nor will your saying so and Putin saying so make it so.

 

[barbos]

This calls for a serious amount of Whadabout!

Happy to oblige.
Reminded me "Fuck the EU" moment Obama administration had. In case you forgot Obama was a democrat.

Wow. Not even close to close.

It's actually worse. In case of Obama, his officials were using 100% insecure line to discuss their shenanigans.
In both cases they were highly disrespectful toward Europe.

Sez the guy who's boss constantly threatens European countries.

Trump is not my boss.

It his buddy Putin is. And Putin sure does act like a huge threat to Europe

Europe is the main threat to Europe. Russia has not threatened Europe

Ukraine is part of Europe, and he is doing much more than threatening it.

And it is also part of Russia.

No. It is not. Nor will your saying so and Putin saying so make it so.

Actually it is part of Russia.

 

[Toni]

This calls for a serious amount of Whadabout!

Happy to oblige.
Reminded me "Fuck the EU" moment Obama administration had. In case you forgot Obama was a democrat.

Wow. Not even close to close.

It's actually worse. In case of Obama, his officials were using 100% insecure line to discuss their shenanigans.
In both cases they were highly disrespectful toward Europe.

Sez the guy who's boss constantly threatens European countries.

Trump is not my boss.

It his buddy Putin is. And Putin sure does act like a huge threat to Europe

Europe is the main threat to Europe. Russia has not threatened Europe

Ukraine is part of Europe, and he is doing much more than threatening it.

And it is also part of Russia.

No. It is not. Nor will your saying so and Putin saying so make it so.

Actually it is part of Russia.

Still wrong.

 

[barbos]

This calls for a serious amount of Whadabout!

Happy to oblige.
Reminded me "Fuck the EU" moment Obama administration had. In case you forgot Obama was a democrat.

Wow. Not even close to close.

It's actually worse. In case of Obama, his officials were using 100% insecure line to discuss their shenanigans.
In both cases they were highly disrespectful toward Europe.

Sez the guy who's boss constantly threatens European countries.

Trump is not my boss.

It his buddy Putin is. And Putin sure does act like a huge threat to Europe

Europe is the main threat to Europe. Russia has not threatened Europe

Ukraine is part of Europe, and he is doing much more than threatening it.

And it is also part of Russia.

No. It is not. Nor will your saying so and Putin saying so make it so.

Actually it is part of Russia.

Still wrong.

Nope, I am not wrong.

 

[Toni]

This calls for a serious amount of Whadabout!

Happy to oblige.
Reminded me "Fuck the EU" moment Obama administration had. In case you forgot Obama was a democrat.

Wow. Not even close to close.

It's actually worse. In case of Obama, his officials were using 100% insecure line to discuss their shenanigans.
In both cases they were highly disrespectful toward Europe.

Sez the guy who's boss constantly threatens European countries.

Trump is not my boss.

It his buddy Putin is. And Putin sure does act like a huge threat to Europe

Europe is the main threat to Europe. Russia has not threatened Europe

Ukraine is part of Europe, and he is doing much more than threatening it.

And it is also part of Russia.

No. It is not. Nor will your saying so and Putin saying so make it so.

Actually it is part of Russia.

Still wrong.

Nope, I am not wrong.

Sigh. I’m not an historian but I can read and understand enough of history to realize that you are simply repeating Putin’s party line.

 

[barbos]

This calls for a serious amount of Whadabout!

Happy to oblige.
Reminded me "Fuck the EU" moment Obama administration had. In case you forgot Obama was a democrat.

Wow. Not even close to close.

It's actually worse. In case of Obama, his officials were using 100% insecure line to discuss their shenanigans.
In both cases they were highly disrespectful toward Europe.

Sez the guy who's boss constantly threatens European countries.

Trump is not my boss.

It his buddy Putin is. And Putin sure does act like a huge threat to Europe

Europe is the main threat to Europe. Russia has not threatened Europe

Ukraine is part of Europe, and he is doing much more than threatening it.

And it is also part of Russia.

No. It is not. Nor will your saying so and Putin saying so make it so.

Actually it is part of Russia.

Still wrong.

Nope, I am not wrong.

Sigh. I’m not an historian but I can read and understand enough of history to realize that you are simply repeating Putin’s party line.

It's other way around. Putin repeats obvious historical facts.

 

[Swammerdami]

This calls for a serious amount of Whadabout!

Happy to oblige.
Reminded me "Fuck the EU" moment Obama administration had. In case you forgot Obama was a democrat.

Wow. Not even close to close.

It's actually worse. In case of Obama, his officials were using 100% insecure line to discuss their shenanigans.
In both cases they were highly disrespectful toward Europe.

Sez the guy who's boss constantly threatens European countries.

Trump is not my boss.

It his buddy Putin is. And Putin sure does act like a huge threat to Europe

Europe is the main threat to Europe. Russia has not threatened Europe

Ukraine is part of Europe, and he is doing much more than threatening it.

And it is also part of Russia.

No. It is not. Nor will your saying so and Putin saying so make it so.

Actually it is part of Russia.

Still wrong.

Nope, I am not wrong.

Sigh. I’m not an historian but I can read and understand enough of history to realize that you are simply repeating Putin’s party line.

It's other way around. Putin repeats obvious historical facts.

Warning: An excessive number (16) of levels in the quote tree. Reported.

If you posted hoping to break the record for deepest quote tree ... you've still got a LONG way to go.

 

[jonatha]

Actually it is part of Russia.

Russia said it doesn't think so...

 

[barbos]

Actually it is part of Russia.

Russia said it doesn't think so...

"Ukraine" threw that memorandum to trash long time ago.
Ukraine IS Russia, Galicia could be a different matter though.
Banderites can move there and live there.