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Mar-a-Largo raided by FBI?

along with TWO passports (why does he even have two????)
I have two passports. It's not uncommon.

In the case of a president or former president, I would suspect that they were not dual citizens, like I am, but rather that they would have both a regular passport and a diplomatic passport. But that's just speculation on my part.
Oh, that's interesting.. didn;t know about presidents (and presumably many other gov officials) getting some other passport.
I thought it was that he had dual citizenship in Scotland and that was the other passport... I said LONG ago (like 2017) that he would flee to Scotland where I suspect he has citizenship there.

regardless... the point is the document, not how many passports... but thank you for that!
Unless I have missed some breaking news about Nicola Sturgeon declaring independence, there's no such thing as a Scottish passport, nor Scottish citizenship. The people of Scotland are citizens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and that's what it says on their passports.
 
Some indicators of intent are the juxtaposition of the contraband to other items... for example, Trump had one particularly sensitive document in his desk drawer along with TWO passports (why does he even have two????). WHY was that one document being kept with his passport? what does that say about intent? (it says to me that he intended to flee the Country with something valuable to trade to not get extradited back to the USA)
I seemed to have missed this one.

There are multiple ways to have multiple passports:

1) What you're thinking of--dual citizenship.

2) Diplomatic passport. If you're traveling as a diplomat it's done on a diplomatic passport, not on your regular passport. They can coexist. The diplomatic passport is part of the job and is cancelled when you're no longer in the job.

3) Because your travel requirements need extra(s):
3a) Visas. You need to travel to country A while your passport is at country B's embassy getting a visa. Realistically, only an issue for heavy travelers.
3b) Naughty lists. You travel to both country A and country B, B prohibits travel by those who have gone to A. Typically, A responds to this by providing visas on a separate piece of paper and not stamping your passport at all, but that's not enough if you travel across a land border from A. The entry stamp from C will out you as having been to A. Israel is the prime example, South Africa used to be and I'm not sure if there are any others at this point.
I believe all such extra passports only have two years of validity.

I've never been in a situation that required an extra passport but we were careful to exclude South African stamps from our passports. Fortunately, while the words "South Africa" were anathema to most African nations they knew the economic reality and ignored things like the border stamps (we had them from both Zimbabwe and Botswana) and packages with labeling in Afrikkans. So long as you blacked out the hated "Product of South Africa" on the label customs would ignore them.

There is also a quasi case 4: Expired passports may still have use. We have valid? (suspended, who knows if they will be reinstated) visas for China in expired passports. Using them requires showing both passports--something that the Chinese authorities seem to have no problem understanding but which others who look at visas seem to not understand very well.

Note that all of these can coexist.
 

I hear the voice of Alex Murdaugh. Hopefully Trump meets the same fate.
I hear a cornered animal puffing itself up and hissing. Like a cornered animal, it doesn't know whether or not it's going to work, but is just doing it on instinct.

Thing is, Trump seems to think that if he makes a clever enough post, and it gets enough likes and "ReTruths" it will somehow help him.

It won't.
 

While some FBI officials pushed to get consent from Trump to search his property, other field agents wanted to close the criminal investigation entirely by early June after Trump's attorneys claimed they conducted a "diligent search" of Mar-a-Lago, according to people familiar with the discussions and who spoke to The Post on the condition of anonymity to talk about a sensitive investigation.

I know people like Oleg and TSwizzle are still confused as to what the difference is between Trump having classified documents and Biden - this is another reason why they are different.
 

I hear the voice of Alex Murdaugh. Hopefully Trump meets the same fate.
I hear a cornered animal puffing itself up and hissing. Like a cornered animal, it doesn't know whether or not it's going to work, but is just doing it on instinct.

Thing is, Trump seems to think that if he makes a clever enough post, and it gets enough likes and "ReTruths" it will somehow help him.

It won't.
That is what you might hear, but I see the next wave of 2024 GOP'ers fighting to be America's Next Fascist... people fighting to be worse than Trump. Trump might be desperate legally, but really, he has enough lawyers to keep things are bay until he is too old to be held responsible for his crimes.
 
"Democrat Marxist pigs"? This language is typically the precursor language before the arrests, disappearances, and executions of people that aren't the fascists.
Right. What's your point?
Cheato has already called for the arrest, disappearance and execution of anyone who says or does anything he doesn't like.
No "precursor language" needed.
Well, it is typically that stuff happens, calling for it isn't enacting it. Enacting it is. And we are seeing in Florida how easy it is to apparently tear down democracy.

The GOP is winning the Senate in 2024. With SCOTUS safely in the hands of the alt-right Fascists, the House is our only hope, which we can win back, but it'll likely be a very tight majority. And depending on who wins in 2024, this "marxist socialist pigs" stuff could be the precursor to people actually disappearing. After all, look at how the Alt-right reacts to absolutely nothing and things that don't exist like the "woke agenda", "Hunter's laptop", and "1/6 conspiracy". Imagine if someone actually did something wrong?!

You might not have noticed, but we passed the debt ceiling months ago. And nothing! The GOP are tearing our nation down to rise themselves up.
 
this "marxist socialist pigs" stuff could be the precursor to people actually disappearing
Well yeah - and water is wet. Trump has been perfectly clear about wanting to round up and execute his enemies, and anyone who thinks that won't happen if he is given the power to make it happen, is delusional.
Is anyone saying that? Whoever thinks Trump wouldn't disappear/murder/lock up people who expose him, is probably also still thinking he will concede an election when he loses it. There's no helping anyone that stubbornly stupid.
 
this "marxist socialist pigs" stuff could be the precursor to people actually disappearing
Well yeah - and water is wet. Trump has been perfectly clear about wanting to round up and execute his enemies, and anyone who thinks that won't happen if he is given the power to make it happen, is delusional.
Is anyone saying that? Whoever thinks Trump wouldn't disappear/murder/lock up people who expose him, is probably also still thinking he will concede an election when he loses it. There's no helping anyone that stubbornly stupid.
I'm not worried about Trump. Trump is an idiot. I'm worried about the Brownshirts and who they are voting for the alt-right Presidency. The closest thing to a moderate in the GOP running for President is Nikki Haley and she is pushing right-ward. The remainder are alt-right fascists who also have a lot more political competency than Trump. The Sununu's and Hogan's and Dewine's who are very conservative but not crazy have all stepped back.

They aren't defeating Trump, they are merely taking the torch from him, intent on a more deliberate and authoritarian path.
 
I'm not worried about Trump.
You should be. The Brownshirts will crawl right back under their rock if deprived of their charismatic Leader. The MAGAts are not going to line up en masse behind a DeSantis, or anyone else currently in the mix. If the Blowhard in Chief disappeared tomorrow, the GQP would immediately lurch to the left, resembling the old “extreme right” more than the current Republican “center”. They don’t want to be where they are, but Trump forces them to mouth fascist rhetoric or incur His wrath.
 
The Brownshirts will crawl right back under their rock if deprived of their charismatic Leader.
In 2012 those exact same brownshirts thought Trump was an adulterous privileged carpet bagging liberal from New York City and Paul Ryan is the future of the GOP. It's not about who they follow - it never was. It was always about which group they could safely hate. In the Bush era it was liberals, Obama it was socialists, Trump it was cultural marxists and today it's "the woke". And in each of those eras they were more than happy to cast aside their idol so long as the new one tells what to be fucking terrified about.

Nothing Trump says today is any radical or different than what fascists listened to on Limbaugh's radio show 30 years ago. Just different packaging. And the exact same brown shirts will greedily lap up whoever succeeds Trump.
 
In 2012 those exact same brownshirts thought Trump was an adulterous privileged carpet bagging liberal from New York City and Paul Ryan is the future of the GOP
They were also marginalized and powerless. It took the Trump environment to cultivate their rapid growth in power that we have seen. It's a cult of personality. No personality, no cult. No cult, no votes, no roused up rabid crowd ready to sack the Capitol.
There are even voices right now threatening the GOP - if we don't get Trump as our nominee we won't vote.
As an aside, in 2012 Trump was only 3 years past the day when he was an adulterous privileged carpet bagging liberal from New York City.
It wasn't until 2009 that he became an adulterous privileged carpet bagging fascist from New York City.
 
Trump attorney ordered to testify before grand jury investigating former president

In a monumental ruling Friday, a federal judge ordered Donald Trump attorney Evan Corcoran to provide additional testimony as part of an investigation into the former president’s handling of classified documents, a source familiar with the matter told CNN.

Corcoran has the potential to become one of the most crucial witnesses in special counsel Jack Smith’s criminal investigation into possible mishandling of classified records after the Trump presidency and obstruction of justice.

District Judge Beryl Howell said in an order under seal that Justice Department prosecutors have met the threshold for the crime-fraud exception for Corcoran, the source said.

The scope of what DOJ will be allowed to ask, however, was not immediately clear. Trump’s team is expected to appeal and ask for the judge’s order to be stayed while legal proceedings play out.

The decision hands Trump yet another loss under seal in court as his team and allies have tried to hold off Smith’s investigators from learning about direct conversations the former president had with some of his closest advisers.
 
Trump attorney ordered to testify before grand jury investigating former president

In a monumental ruling Friday, a federal judge ordered Donald Trump attorney Evan Corcoran to provide additional testimony as part of an investigation into the former president’s handling of classified documents, a source familiar with the matter told CNN.

Corcoran has the potential to become one of the most crucial witnesses in special counsel Jack Smith’s criminal investigation into possible mishandling of classified records after the Trump presidency and obstruction of justice.

District Judge Beryl Howell said in an order under seal that Justice Department prosecutors have met the threshold for the crime-fraud exception for Corcoran, the source said.

The scope of what DOJ will be allowed to ask, however, was not immediately clear. Trump’s team is expected to appeal and ask for the judge’s order to be stayed while legal proceedings play out.

The decision hands Trump yet another loss under seal in court as his team and allies have tried to hold off Smith’s investigators from learning about direct conversations the former president had with some of his closest advisers.
Any ordinary person would be in jail long ago for the crap Trump has pulled.
 

This story broke on Friday. I saw more on this earlier today.

Opinion Judge Howell delivers another blow to Trump and his lawyer


U.S. District Judge Beryl A. Howell ruled in a sealed opinion that Trump’s attorney Evan Corcoran must not only answer questions regarding his client’s alleged retention of documents and obstruction of investigators but also turn over his notes. The reason for piercing the normally inviolate attorney-client privilege: the crime-fraud exception.

At issue, it seems, is the statement Corcoran prepared attesting that Trump’s legal team had made a “diligent search” of boxes of documents. (A subsequent search conducted pursuant to a warrant turned up hundreds of classified documents Trump had not returned.) Howell held that because there was sufficient evidence that Trump and Corcoran participated in a crime (e.g., violation of the Espionage Act, obstruction of justice), Trump lost the benefit of attorney-client privilege. Put differently, if he and Corcoran, for example, were working to deceive investigators or willfully retain highly sensitive documents, their conversations and any documents in furtherance of such crimes must be disclosed to the grand jury.​

There's reason to believe Corcoran may be using the order to provide cover for turning on Trump, tossing his client under the bus, so to speak.

Legal scholars and former prosecutors describe Howell as “a careful and fair-minded jurist,” as constitutional scholar Laurence H. Tribe put it. Before directing him to waive privileges, the judge, in all likelihood, provided Corcoran with an opportunity to appeal, Tribe and several former prosecutors tell me.​

Corcoran clearly hasn't appealed. It's understood that Trump has long since abandoned or been abandoned by his best legal representatives

Just Security’s Ryan Goodman reminds us that White House attorney Eric Herschmann seemed to warn Corcoran against improperly attempting to tamper with his testimony, an indication that Corcoran’s potential criminal liability might extend beyond the Mar-a-Lago document issue.​

The Twitter thread referenced above is worth reading in its entirety. Point 4, linked by Rubin above, provides further evidence of exposure to obstruction charges for Corcoran and Epshteyn, which translates to significant leverage to turn Corcoran.
 
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