Mueller investigation

[Trausti]

The whole "It looks suspicions and significant" thing was a lie. No expert would think that. In other words "experts" were lying.

Trump tower server in constant communication with AlphaBank isn't suspicious?
Maybe not to you, but US intelligence would have to be asleep at the wheel not to think that looks fishy.

I depends what the communication is about.

You know that doesn't matter to The Resistance™. They're like the ufologists who think a geographic formation on Mars that looks like a face is proof that NASA is in contact with aliens. Who are building landing strips for gay Martians.

 

[Trausti]

It's déjà vu all over again.

White House's All-Out Attack on Mueller Is Paying Off, With His Help

From the moment that the name Paul Manafort began to dominate the national conversation, the White House determined that President Trump's best survival strategy in the scandal was to mount an all-out attack on Robert Mueller, the independent counsel.

''There's going to be a war,'' said Steve Bannon, a longtime Trump loyalist. In the five weeks since Bannon's declaration, the war between the President and the Russiagate independent counsel has escalated with a bitter and personal attack from Melania Trump, who accused Mr. Mueller of being part of ''a vast, left-wing conspiracy'' against her husband.

One White House official was blunt about the strategy, calling the coordinated hostilities ''part of our continuing campaign to destroy Robert Mueller.''

While these broadsides aimed at Mr. Mueller and spearheaded by the White House have been effective, the independent counsel's own miscalculations, including last week's subpoena of a White House aide who was grilled about his press contacts, have contributed to a growing perception of Mr. Mueller as an overzealous and tone-deaf prosecutor.

 

[laughing dog]

It's déjà vu all over again.

White House's All-Out Attack on Mueller Is Paying Off, With His Help

From the moment that the name Paul Manafort began to dominate the national conversation, the White House determined that President Trump's best survival strategy in the scandal was to mount an all-out attack on Robert Mueller, the independent counsel.

''There's going to be a war,'' said Steve Bannon, a longtime Trump loyalist. In the five weeks since Bannon's declaration, the war between the President and the Russiagate independent counsel has escalated with a bitter and personal attack from Melania Trump, who accused Mr. Mueller of being part of ''a vast, left-wing conspiracy'' against her husband.

One White House official was blunt about the strategy, calling the coordinated hostilities ''part of our continuing campaign to destroy Robert Mueller.''

While these broadsides aimed at Mr. Mueller and spearheaded by the White House have been effective, the independent counsel's own miscalculations, including last week's subpoena of a White House aide who was grilled about his press contacts, have contributed to a growing perception of Mr. Mueller as an overzealous and tone-deaf prosecutor.

LOL. the link in the above post takes you an article about the Clinton White House painting Ken Starr as over-zealous.

The knee-jerk partisanship in that post is fucking hilarious.

 

[Artemus]

The knee-jerk partisanship in that post is fucking hilarious.

Not to mention the time wasted to change the names in the "quote".

 

[laughing dog]

The knee-jerk partisanship in that post is fucking hilarious.

Not to mention the time wasted to change the names in the "quote".

I did not even notice that at first. I hought it was just a wrong link. So not only is it fucking hilarious, it is disingenuous as well.

 

[barbos]

The whole "It looks suspicions and significant" thing was a lie. No expert would think that. In other words "experts" were lying.

Trump tower server in constant communication with AlphaBank isn't suspicious?

It was not in constant communication. Trump server which did not belong to Trump was sending spam around the world including Alpha bank.
Experts knew that DNS queries means nothing, except that alpha Bank was receiving email spam.

 

[barbos]

It's just more fodder for the hysterical ninnies. Snopes

"Not proven"
Did you know that that's not the same thing as "FALSE"?

You honestly believe there is a chance of it being "proven"?
Fact is, "not proven" is as bad as "false" here. People came up with "evidence" and other people then show that evidence all of it is bullshit.
Hillary still has not deleted her twit
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/793234169576947712/photo/1

 

[Trausti]

It's déjà vu all over again.

White House's All-Out Attack on Mueller Is Paying Off, With His Help

From the moment that the name Paul Manafort began to dominate the national conversation, the White House determined that President Trump's best survival strategy in the scandal was to mount an all-out attack on Robert Mueller, the independent counsel.

''There's going to be a war,'' said Steve Bannon, a longtime Trump loyalist. In the five weeks since Bannon's declaration, the war between the President and the Russiagate independent counsel has escalated with a bitter and personal attack from Melania Trump, who accused Mr. Mueller of being part of ''a vast, left-wing conspiracy'' against her husband.

One White House official was blunt about the strategy, calling the coordinated hostilities ''part of our continuing campaign to destroy Robert Mueller.''

While these broadsides aimed at Mr. Mueller and spearheaded by the White House have been effective, the independent counsel's own miscalculations, including last week's subpoena of a White House aide who was grilled about his press contacts, have contributed to a growing perception of Mr. Mueller as an overzealous and tone-deaf prosecutor.

LOL. the link in the above post takes you an article about the Clinton White House painting Ken Starr as over-zealous.

The knee-jerk partisanship in that post is fucking hilarious.

 

[laughing dog]

LOL. the link in the above post takes you an article about the Clinton White House painting Ken Starr as over-zealous.

The knee-jerk partisanship in that post is fucking hilarious.

The only head your point went over is your own. Unintended irony is your metier.

 

[Patooka]

No, I think everyone got the point. You are asserting that a four year long investigation that cost over $39 million (nearly two decades ago someone else can try and figure out the comparative wealth in todays terms) with its sole finding is that Bill Clinton likes blowjobs, is equal and just as partisan as a six month $6 million investigation brought on by evidence of election tampering from other nations, and has already brought forth several indictments.

I get what your point is - you are just wrong. "Biggest inauguration crowd period" wrong.

 

[Elixir]

It's just more fodder for the hysterical ninnies. Snopes

"Not proven"
Did you know that that's not the same thing as "FALSE"?

You honestly believe there is a chance of it being "proven"?

You honestly believe that Cheato has had no shady dealings with AlphaBank?

 

[barbos]

You honestly believe there is a chance of it being "proven"?

You honestly believe that Cheato has had no shady dealings with AlphaBank?

You did not answer my question. You remind me these crazies who think americans have not been to the Moon.

 

[Elixir]

You honestly believe there is a chance of it being "proven"?

You honestly believe that Cheato has had no shady dealings with AlphaBank?

You did not answer my question. You remind me these crazies who think americans have not been to the Moon.

I'm not as foolish as you, or others who have already reached a conclusion about the provability of such things. Are you an IT expert on international banking?
Oh, and you didn't answer my question.

 

[barbos]

You did not answer my question. You remind me these crazies who think americans have not been to the Moon.

I'm not as foolish as you, or others who have already reached a conclusion about the provability of such things. Are you an IT expert on international banking?
Oh, and you didn't answer my question.

So americans have never been to the Moon, you are one of these guys.

 

[laughing dog]

It's just more fodder for the hysterical ninnies. Snopes

"Not proven"
Did you know that that's not the same thing as "FALSE"?

You honestly believe there is a chance of it being "proven"?

Since a chance means any positive probability, no matter how close to zero, the answer is a yes.

Now, is it likely that it will be proven? In my opinion, no.

 

[Ford]

You honestly believe there is a chance of it being "proven"?

Since a chance means any positive probability, no matter how close to zero, the answer is a yes.

Now, is it likely that it will be proven? In my opinion, no.

For me, I think it is increasingly likely that the Mueller investigation will uncover quite a lot of obstruction of justice.

Criminal collusion with Russia? Perhaps not.

But I think it is instructive to look at what Manafort has been nabbed for: Money laundering. How did he do that? Real estate.

And apart from reality TV and selling questionable Trump-branded products, what's the main source of income for The Donald? Real estate.

 

[barbos]

There is no question that Trump is an asshole and probably a criminal (Trump University, his bankruptcies, his general real estate business)
But leftist media are surely losing their credibility (among IT literate population certainly) when they are trying hard to pin Trump down using literally everything no matter how ridiculous and weak it is. They did not ask for second opinion in this Alpha Bank story, they also did not ask for a second opinion in russian hacking story. They became like Fair and Balanced.

 

[humbleman]

Politicians and commentators defend the FBI accusing our beloved president Trump of attacking such a prestigious agency insulting it saying that FBI's "reputation is in Tatters - worst in History!"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-fbis-reputation-is-in-tatters-worst-in-history/

WASHINGTON -- President Donald Trump said in a tweet early Sunday morning that the FBI's "reputation is in Tatters - worst in History!"

"But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness," he tweeted.

Well, I smile when defenders of the FBI reputation go against president Trump as if he is incorrect.

This "Russian Collusion" investigation is exactly the same or a copy or, plagiarism or, monkey see monkey do of a former investigation which started by malicious people, who caused months and months of search and research looking for declaring or not declaring Mr. Martin Luther King as a communist.

What a waste!

Mr. president Trump's words FBI's "reputation is in Tatters..." is not right when he says, is its "worst reputation in history"... it happened before... it is happening again...

 

[Copernicus]

There is no question that Trump is an asshole and probably a criminal (Trump University, his bankruptcies, his general real estate business)
But leftist media are surely losing their credibility (among IT literate population certainly) when they are trying hard to pin Trump down using literally everything no matter how ridiculous and weak it is. They did not ask for second opinion in this Alpha Bank story, they also did not ask for a second opinion in russian hacking story. They became like Fair and Balanced.

But it is definitely not the "leftist media" that is pushing the "Russian hacking story". It is the US intelligence community, which is being reported on by all news sources, including (sometimes) the "rightist media" such as Fox News. At this point, there is very little doubt that the Russian government conducted a cyberwarfare attack on the US elections that resulted in the election of Donald Trump, not to mention a great many downticket Republicans, but prosecuting the allegations under rules of evidence in US courts (assuming a willingness of prosecutors to bring cases) is a much higher bar to clear. The Republican Party and its elected and appointed officials are not going to look kindly on such efforts, because it calls into question their own legitimacy.

Regarding the Alpha Bank controversy, there is still a lot of smoke there that suggests that there might be a fire. It is too early to dismiss it on the grounds that it has not been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 

[barbos]

There is no question that Trump is an asshole and probably a criminal (Trump University, his bankruptcies, his general real estate business)
But leftist media are surely losing their credibility (among IT literate population certainly) when they are trying hard to pin Trump down using literally everything no matter how ridiculous and weak it is. They did not ask for second opinion in this Alpha Bank story, they also did not ask for a second opinion in russian hacking story. They became like Fair and Balanced.

But it is definitely not the "leftist media" that is pushing the "Russian hacking story". It is the US intelligence community, which is being reported on by all news sources, including (sometimes) the "rightist media" such as Fox News. At this point, there is very little doubt that the Russian government conducted a cyberwarfare attack on the US elections that resulted in the election of Donald Trump,

I would not be so sure. There are certain factions in intelligence community which are hell bent on starting new cold war. But even taking that into account media distorted information coming from intelligence community. "17 agencies" and "high confidence" was interpreted by media as "Russian government conducted a cyberwarfare attack"
In reality of course it's not that clear at all. Reality is, there were no 17 agencies, just 3 and "high confidence" is not what public think it is. "High confidence" on a scale 1 to 10 is probably around 3, but media wants us to believe that it's "something enough to sentence suspect to death" level of confidence. Media utterly failed to report important details which would have allowed public to judge for themselves. They were just repeating "17 agencies, 17 agencies, 17 agencies" over and over again, when again in reality it appears that it all could be traced to a one man who had an axe to grind and money to make. In the russian oligarch&Trump mansion story Media also conveniently omitted rather interesting and important details which make whole story a complete bunk.

not to mention a great many downticket Republicans, but prosecuting the allegations under rules of evidence in US courts (assuming a willingness of prosecutors to bring cases) is a much higher bar to clear.

You are damn right about that. In US court Hillary would have been laughed at with her evidence. But media painted a different picture.

The Republican Party and its elected and appointed officials are not going to look kindly on such efforts, because it calls into question their own legitimacy.

Regarding the Alpha Bank controversy, there is still a lot of smoke there that suggests that there might be a fire. It is too early to dismiss it on the grounds that it has not been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Nope, there is absolutely no smoke. That's why media kinda "forgot" about it.