Mueller investigation

[Malintent]

If they were archived in a .gov account, how are they private or privileged?

Last week, when my IT director was trying to get something sorted out on my computer, he looked at the web traffic of everyone in the office. For a brief moment, he commented on what was open on everone's browser.

I've known about this for years. They can remote into your computer and see in real time what you're doing. Your password? Doesn't count for shit. Admin privileges trump everything.

And I just work for a private company that's not involved in national security. How is it that these idiots don't know they're being watched?

Fantastic question... how do people not know they are being recorded indeed... I am the guy that reads your email (as part of my job). I am the guy that HR and Legal go to if they need to know what someone is doing. Last year, I intercepted a conversation that basically went like this:

Hey, help me steal something...
OK. Where and when?
Tonight, in the loading dock
putting it on eBay?
SHHHHH.... not in email!

That was basically the thread... an entire illicit conversation, with "don't put this in email" at the end of it.

THAT is the sophistication of the average corporate user... they think they are just hay in a hay stack (and someone else is the needle).

Regarding your password... there is a slight misconception... your password is not something that prevents other people from accessing resources you think are "yours". Your password is something that proves that you are you... that is it. It is merely a "factor of authentication"...

 

[Underseer]

Rachel Maddow just said that the Wapo is reporting that members of Muellers team have been told to expect to keep working through much of 2018. So much for a quick disposition to this matter.

She might be right about that.

The Senate Intelligence Committee is looking at the presidential campaign of the Green Party’s Jill Stein for potential “collusion with the Russians,” a sign that the panel’s probe is far from over, even as allegations swirl that the House Intelligence Committee’s investigation is racing to a close.

Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) told reporters Monday that the Senate Intelligence Committee has “two other campaigns that we’re just starting on,” in addition to the panel’s ongoing probe of alleged ties between the Trump administration and Kremlin officials. One of those he identified as Stein’s; Burr has indicated previously that the committee is also looking into reports that the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign paid for research that went into a dossier detailing allegations of Donald Trump’s 2013 exploits in Moscow.

Be careful what you wish for . . .

So colluding with Russians is bad if someone from the Green party does it, but not when a Republican does it?

I can't imagine the level of mental gymnastics necessary to be a conservative. I'm free to decide that colluding with Russians in an American election is wrong regardless of who does it, but you have to come up with elaborate excuses for why it's bad when Jill does it, but good when Trump and lots of other Republican politicians do the same thing.

Aren't all those backflips, you know, exhausting after a while?

 

[Opoponax]

She might be right about that.

Be careful what you wish for . . .

So colluding with Russians is bad if someone from the Green party does it, but not when a Republican does it?

I can't imagine the level of mental gymnastics necessary to be a conservative. I'm free to decide that colluding with Russians in an American election is wrong regardless of who does it, but you have to come up with elaborate excuses for why it's bad when Jill does it, but good when Trump and lots of other Republican politicians do the same thing.

Aren't all those backflips, you know, exhausting after a while?

I'm waiting for accusations that Obama paid Hillary to pee on a bed in Moscow.

 

[Underseer]

She might be right about that.

Be careful what you wish for . . .

So colluding with Russians is bad if someone from the Green party does it, but not when a Republican does it?

I can't imagine the level of mental gymnastics necessary to be a conservative. I'm free to decide that colluding with Russians in an American election is wrong regardless of who does it, but you have to come up with elaborate excuses for why it's bad when Jill does it, but good when Trump and lots of other Republican politicians do the same thing.

Aren't all those backflips, you know, exhausting after a while?

I'm waiting for accusations that Obama paid Hillary to pee on a bed in Moscow.

Why?

Oh, right. Because if your side gets accused of something, the other side must also have done the same thing because both sides are exactly as bad, right? This is the same logical fallacy you use to claim that anti-fascist protesters are the "real Nazis" while the guys with actual Nazi flags are not.

 

[blastula]

There goes the underseer bot again.

 

[Artemus]

Per Axios, Mark Warner said the Russia probe is "the most important thing I will ever work on." He also said that he has seen damning evidence against Trump and that Mueller has much more. I think that this is a warning to the republicans to not try to stop the investigation: Doing so will result in a flood of leaks to the press that will bring down a number of those who refused to act down with it. Despite the delays, I'm still optimistic that the checks-and-balance system plus a free press is again going to work out in the end.

 

[Elixir]

"the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign paid for research that went into a dossier detailing allegations of Donald Trump’s 2013 exploits in Moscow"

In what world does THAT warrant taxpayers spending millions on a kangaroo court "investigation"?
Are they supposed to get all their opposition research for free or something?
What about the republican who first paid for THE SAME THING? No investigation?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

"the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign paid for research that went into a dossier detailing allegations of Donald Trump’s 2013 exploits in Moscow"

In what world does THAT warrant taxpayers spending millions on a kangaroo court "investigation"?
Are they supposed to get all their opposition research for free or something?
What about the republican who first paid for THE SAME THING? No investigation?

The last thing the US needs is yet another investigation spiraling out of control and exceeding its mandate. They are charged with investigating how the Democrats paid for that research. Who did or did not pay for it several weeks prior to this would be an overreach of their authority.

 

[Elixir]

"the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign paid for research that went into a dossier detailing allegations of Donald Trump’s 2013 exploits in Moscow"

In what world does THAT warrant taxpayers spending millions on a kangaroo court "investigation"?
Are they supposed to get all their opposition research for free or something?
What about the republican who first paid for THE SAME THING? No investigation?

The last thing the US needs is yet another investigation spiraling out of control and exceeding its mandate. They are charged with investigating how the Democrats paid for that research. Who did or did not pay for it several weeks prior to this would be an overreach of their authority.

S'pose they paid for it out of their general fund (I am assuming such a thing exists). What's the problem?
S'pose it was paid for by an American individual or Company. What's the problem?
In fact, what's the potential problem at all?

 

[blastula]

It would be a problem if they didn't pay and got it as a free donation.

 

[Elixir]

It would be a problem if they didn't pay and got it as a free donation.

... from a foreign power, yes. Or didn't declare it as value received, I guess.
Hardly of the same scope as trying to undermine the US electoral process, IMO, though obviously not so in the minds of our neo-con reps.

 

[barbos]

"the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign paid for research that went into a dossier detailing allegations of Donald Trump’s 2013 exploits in Moscow"

In what world does THAT warrant taxpayers spending millions on a kangaroo court "investigation"?
Are they supposed to get all their opposition research for free or something?
What about the republican who first paid for THE SAME THING? No investigation?

I would like to see everything investigated, including Hillary and her "investigations" which turned out to be lies (Alpha bank story, then russian hacking investigation which was run by a known liar and rusophobe)

 

[Elixir]

"the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign paid for research that went into a dossier detailing allegations of Donald Trump’s 2013 exploits in Moscow"

In what world does THAT warrant taxpayers spending millions on a kangaroo court "investigation"?
Are they supposed to get all their opposition research for free or something?
What about the republican who first paid for THE SAME THING? No investigation?

I would like to see everything investigated, including Hillary and her "investigations" which turned out to be lies (Alpha bank story, then russian hacking investigation which was run by a known liar and rusophobe)

You must have loooved the BIN-GOZZYMAILS saga.

 

[barbos]

"the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign paid for research that went into a dossier detailing allegations of Donald Trump’s 2013 exploits in Moscow"

In what world does THAT warrant taxpayers spending millions on a kangaroo court "investigation"?
Are they supposed to get all their opposition research for free or something?
What about the republican who first paid for THE SAME THING? No investigation?

I would like to see everything investigated, including Hillary and her "investigations" which turned out to be lies (Alpha bank story, then russian hacking investigation which was run by a known liar and rusophobe)

You must have loooved the BIN-GOZZYMAILS saga.

No, I did not, But If Dan Rather went down over his Bush story then people behind Alpha Bank story should defectively go down too. It was unabashed lie. If Putin was smarter he would have ordered these people to sue the shit out of US media over that story.

 

[Elixir]

You must have loooved the BIN-GOZZYMAILS saga.

No, I did not

Not “everything” then. Just Alpha bank? Make up your mind.

 

[barbos]

You must have loooved the BIN-GOZZYMAILS saga.

No, I did not

Not “everything” then. Just Alpha bank? Make up your mind.

Yes, and Benghazi had been investigated enough long before it was "investigated" too much.
Whereas AlphaBankGate was not investigated at all, Some people threw shit on the wall with intent for it to stick, it did not and they moved on to other things, It's like failed bank robbery, you still have to investigate it and send people to prison even though nothing was stolen.

 

[Elixir]

Not “everything” then. Just Alpha bank? Make up your mind.

AlphaBankGate was not investigated at all.

What do you want investigated? Trump's nominee Brian A. Benczkowski? Other ties to Trump (there seem to be an awful lot of them). the Amsterdam Trade Bank connection? (The Dutch are looking into their money laundering) or is there some personal vendetta you'd like to see pursued?

 

[barbos]

Not “everything” then. Just Alpha bank? Make up your mind.

AlphaBankGate was not investigated at all.

What do you want investigated? Trump's nominee Brian A. Benczkowski? Other ties to Trump (there seem to be an awful lot of them). the Amsterdam Trade Bank connection? (The Dutch are looking into their money laundering) or is there some personal vendetta you'd like to see pursued?

I told you what I want investigated - Alpha Bank story.

 

[blastula]

investigated by who?

 

[barbos]

investigated by who?

By FBI or something. Crime was most likely committed, you should want bad guys sent to prison, don't you?