My Last Rant on the 2016 Presidential Election (until my next one)

[Shadowy Man]

If this shit storm is the fault of voters, why should the parties put up better candidates?

Exactly! You're catching on.

 

[Ford]

Clinton's loss shows that we've been spared a potential disaster. She should have won. The media had anointed her American Moses; all the talk shows bashed Trump and celebrated our coming first presidential vagina; she had butt loads more money than Trump; she had, what, 4x more staff; her opponent made cringe-worthy remarks. But she lost by less than 100K votes over three states (states that everyone prediced she'd get). She fucked up a sure thing. That's not someone we should have a president.

Neither is the Donald. At least Clinton knows that when you are the boss, you have to hire people.

Naw, Trausti thinks that Trump is better because he won. He's a winner because he won, and winners are better than losers. Ironclad logic!

 

[Elixir]

Ohhhhhh, ok that makes sense. not sure i agree with it though, but I understand the logic. What if the republicans WANT to mover further to the right and what if there are independents who want to move further right too? Then moving right won't drive anyone away, it will just make the GOP that much more inviting, would it not?

Of course. But if that's the case, we're going there anyway. I might be too optimistic, but especially given that Hillary for almost 3m more votes than the orange buffoon, I don't think most Americans want to go full Trumpista, and even fewer want anything to do with whatever exists to his right - if such a thing exists.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

Yeah, nobody on the right was all that terribly upset at the outcome of the 2008 election.

So true. All those Republicans who took to the streets to protest, attacked Obama voters, sought vote recounts in states Obama won, and orchestrated a campaign to intimidate electoral college electors to chose someone else (after all, John McCain was war vet, POW, and senator for many years - infinitely more qualified than the upstart Obama, right?).

You do know that while you may have convenient amnesia the rest of us do not. The Tea Party people hanging the president in effigy and demanding he be denied the the White House because he was a Muslim, Atheist, African, illegal alien who went to Jeremial Wright's Christian church.

And that just the tame stuff.

 

[Trausti]

So true. All those Republicans who took to the streets to protest, attacked Obama voters, sought vote recounts in states Obama won, and orchestrated a campaign to intimidate electoral college electors to chose someone else (after all, John McCain was war vet, POW, and senator for many years - infinitely more qualified than the upstart Obama, right?).

You do know that while you may have convenient amnesia the rest of us do not. The Tea Party people hanging the president in effigy and demanding he be denied the the White House because he was a Muslim, Atheist, African, illegal alien who went to Jeremial Wright's Christian church.

And that just the tame stuff.

Could you provide links or video to the Tea Party street protests following Obama's election and their efforts to denying his election to the presidency? Thanks so much!

 

[laughing dog]

True. It doesn't follow that we should have someone like Trump as a president. He is the booby prize.

I think the point Trausti is trying to make is that Trump won, therefore he's not only the better candidate, but will be a great President. Plus he won by such a big margin, he'll be that much better of a President. The best, really.

Trausti is not that idiotic to make such a stupid argument.

Oh, and Clinton is bad because she wasn't as popular as Trump. After all, Trump won the popular vote. Right?

I don't know whether Clinton is bad, but is obvious she is a terrible candidate for national office. As a nominal front-runner she has lost twice.

 

[Elixir]

Yeah, nobody on the right was all that terribly upset at the outcome of the 2008 election.

So true. All those Republicans who took to the streets to protest, attacked Obama voters, sought vote recounts in states Obama won, and orchestrated a campaign to intimidate electoral college electors to chose someone else (after all, John McCain was war vet, POW, and senator for many years - infinitely more qualified than the upstart Obama, right?).

How soon they forget...

And surely you remember the jubilation of the Obama supporters, bombing KKK headquarters with impunity, letting black people and even Mexicans roam the streets freely - boy, it was ugly, wasn't it? They even refrained from grabbing women's genitals - disgusting!

 

[laughing dog]

FTFY

The butthurt caused by this election is epic.

I agree. What is more fascinating is that the winners have just as much butthurt as the losers.

 

[Trausti]

So true. All those Republicans who took to the streets to protest, attacked Obama voters, sought vote recounts in states Obama won, and orchestrated a campaign to intimidate electoral college electors to chose someone else (after all, John McCain was war vet, POW, and senator for many years - infinitely more qualified than the upstart Obama, right?).

How soon they forget...

And surely you remember the jubilation of the Obama supporters, bombing KKK headquarters with impunity, letting black people and even Mexicans roam the streets freely - boy, it was ugly, wasn't it? They even refrained from grabbing women's genitals - disgusting!

Yeah, those violent White Supremacists protests were all over the news after the '08 election.

 

[Trausti]

The butthurt caused by this election is epic.

I agree. What is more fascinating is that the winners have just as much butthurt as the losers.

You seem to have explosive butthurt. You may need this.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

If this shit storm is the fault of voters, why should the parties put up better candidates?

Exactly! You're catching on.

The party elite are not interested in the people and the party elite set the agenda and like all good believers, they wont care what independent reality shows them, they only see what their orthodoxy tells them to see. People in this country have been clamoring for a FDR for eight years now and what they got was some nice Calvin Coolidge with some JFK mixed in topped with heavy cream of oratory and a whole lot of icing made of just plain cool.

The Dems will continue to move to the right (until some sort of purge happens), and the GOP will continue to run to the right until both parties fall off a cliff.

 

[Elixir]

Could you provide links or video to the Tea Party street protests following Obama's election and their efforts to denying his election to the presidency? Thanks so much!

Oh, there was no acrimony - none at all. And that, despite Obama winning three critical states by a total of 100k votes, and evidence of foreign interference... Oh, wait - that didn't happen. But no, those nice republicans weren't mad - they just said "let's give him a chance!"
Here are some of them doing exactly that, since you seem to have forgotten:

 

[Harry Bosch]

Exactly! You're catching on.

The party elite are not interested in the people and the party elite set the agenda and like all good believers, they wont care what independent reality shows them, they only see what their orthodoxy tells them to see. People in this country have been clamoring for a FDR for eight years now and what they got was some nice Calvin Coolidge with some JFK mixed in topped with heavy cream of oratory and a whole lot of icing made of just plain cool.

The Dems will continue to move to the right (until some sort of purge happens), and the GOP will continue to run to the right until both parties fall off a cliff.

I don't know if they will continue moving to the right. But we are losing the white people vote. Old white people are turning towards the republican party. Somehow we need a tiny shrivel of their vote to return.

 

[Trausti]

Could you provide links or video to the Tea Party street protests following Obama's election and their efforts to denying his election to the presidency? Thanks so much!

Oh, there was no acrimony - none at all. And that, despite Obama winning three critical states by a total of 100k votes, and evidence of foreign interference... Oh, wait - that didn't happen. But no, those nice republicans weren't mad - they just said "let's give him a chance!"
Here are some of them doing exactly that, since you seem to have forgotten:

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I concede. That's exactly the same as the post-2016 election hysterics.

 

[laughing dog]

I agree. What is more fascinating is that the winners have just as much butthurt as the losers.

You seem to have explosive butthurt.

I'm not complaining about HRC losing. Nor am I acting like an ass about my candidate winning. Maybe your powers of observation are blocked by the folds in your alimentary canal.

 

[Ford]

You seem to have explosive butthurt.

I'm not complaining about HRC losing. Nor am I acting like an ass about my candidate winning. Maybe your powers of observation are blocked by the folds in your alimentary canal.

Yeah but Donald Trump won, so nanny nanny boo boo.

He has the greatest victory rallies, doesn't he? The best, really the best.

 

[Elixir]

I concede. That's exactly the same as the post-2016 election hysterics.

Yeah - no groping.

 

[Toni]

The party elite are not interested in the people and the party elite set the agenda and like all good believers, they wont care what independent reality shows them, they only see what their orthodoxy tells them to see. People in this country have been clamoring for a FDR for eight years now and what they got was some nice Calvin Coolidge with some JFK mixed in topped with heavy cream of oratory and a whole lot of icing made of just plain cool.

The Dems will continue to move to the right (until some sort of purge happens), and the GOP will continue to run to the right until both parties fall off a cliff.

I don't know if they will continue moving to the right. But we are losing the white people vote. Old white people are turning towards the republican party. Somehow we need a tiny shrivel of their vote to return.

Huh. I'm old and I'm white and I'm sick of the Democrats acting like ineffective Republicans and I'm sick of Republicans acting like junior Nazis.

 

[Toni]

I think the point Trausti is trying to make is that Trump won, therefore he's not only the better candidate, but will be a great President. Plus he won by such a big margin, he'll be that much better of a President. The best, really.

Trausti is not that idiotic to make such a stupid argument.

Oh, and Clinton is bad because she wasn't as popular as Trump. After all, Trump won the popular vote. Right?

I don't know whether Clinton is bad, but is obvious she is a terrible candidate for national office. As a nominal front-runner she has lost twice.

Yes, SHE is. I wonder why that might be?

 

[bilby]

I don't know if they will continue moving to the right. But we are losing the white people vote. Old white people are turning towards the republican party. Somehow we need a tiny shrivel of their vote to return.

Huh. I'm old and I'm white and I'm sick of the Democrats acting like ineffective Republicans and I'm sick of Republicans acting like junior Nazis.

Don't worry, they are about to graduate to the senior level.




On second thoughts, do worry.