My Vote 11/06/2018

[RVonse]

No it won’t. That’s been said for decades now and everyone is still waiting for it to happen. Aren’t you all tired of it just being one election around the corner?

You have an example of a wing of a party taking that party over and forcing it to conform to its agenda. That’s the Tea Party. They organized and voted and participated in the primaries to the point where they stopped being laughed at and ridiculed and started to set the agenda and had all the establishment assholes they’d been railing against bending over backwards to kiss their asses due to their demonstrating that they could get supporters to the polls.

Why not try emulating a winning strategy instead of constantly rehashing the last losing one?

I think Trumps's election is a better example than the tea party. Trump forced his way into the Republican party by finding a niche. He exploited that niche and rode it to his election. Since that happened he has dragged the Republicans, both moderate and conservative with him, many reluctantly. He has enough of a following to do this.

The Republican party was open enough to a Trump to allow this to happen. They probably regretted it at first but they seem to be more accommodating now. The Democratic party is much more strict and force outsiders to run as independents.

From the getgo, the corporate media has once again framed this election cycle as a two-party race because that serves the corporate media. If anyone here believes the corporate media does things for any reason other than profit, all I can say is....egads!

If people truly want the change they say they desire and support the issues they claim to then play the long game and force the Democrats to pony up or get fucked. The consequences are theirs and their corporate constituents. They and their rich constituants will definately try to make us pay, but I've got news for you, we're already paying, and not just with President Trump, but in so many other ways, financial and otherwise. We're losing our freedoms and that didn't begin with Trump, it's been happening for a long time now beginning with our responses and reactions to 9/11.

The far right has woken up and the left better as well. Moderates, corporatists and ex-intelligence officials running as Democrats aren't going to cut it. That's the GOP of yesteryear.

Well said.

 

[RVonse]

The Democratic party is much more strict and force outsiders to run as independents.

really???

Bernie Sanders

BS wasn't an outsider, he caucused with the Dems. Though we do know that they used him and then abused him and then sabotaged him and finally spit him out. Poor Bernie,he got so beat up so forcfully and fast that his head spun for a long time. May not be done spinning. And he's still loyal. My guess is it's over for BS.

The real irony is that had Hillary not been so corrupt and stole his rightful nomination, BS very likely would have won POTUS over Trump in the general. He was the only candidate from either party that could have beat Trump.

I think BS should get the nobel prize for "being screwed".

 

[Max Rockatansky]

BS wasn't an outsider, he caucused with the Dems. Though we do know that they used him and then abused him and then sabotaged him and finally spit him out. Poor Bernie,he got so beat up so forcfully and fast that his head spun for a long time. May not be done spinning. And he's still loyal. My guess is it's over for BS.

The real irony is that had Hillary not been so corrupt to steal his nomination, he very likely would have won POTUS over Trump. BS should get the nobel prize for "being screwed".

Uncertain that Bernie would have won, but my wife certainly was disappointed. Bernie was the first candidate she ever sent money to support. When the corruption was revealed, she refused to vote for Hillary, couldn't vote for Trump and then did as I did, voted third party rather than vote for a deplorable.

 

[crazyfingers]

I already voted. I am traveling this week.

I gladly voted Elizabeth Warren for US Senate.

In this political climate there was no way in hell I would vote for any Republican on the ballot so I voted for the Democrat down the line even when the democrat was unopposed. Down the ballot there were local offices where no party is listed. Unless the candidate had done something to communicate their priorities i left it blank.

There were several referendum questions.

One i had no opinion.

One was a proposal to form a committee on an amendment to the US Constitution to repeal Citizens United. YES.

One was to repeal an existing Massachusetts law requiring that transgender people must be allowed to use the bathroom corresponding to their own sexual identity. A yes vote would keep the existing law. No would repeal the law. I voted yes.

 

[Terrell]

Already voted, Oct 27. Blue no matter who. Only realistic alternative to the Red team. Primaries are for choice.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Hope the view from the pedestal is high enough you won’t be able to notice the lost rights Americans suffer from when the unchecked right-wing of SCOTUS enshrines restrictions to the wrong types of people and they expand corporate rights. That’ll be important to help remain smug.

I mean otherwise, you’ll probably feel like an idiot.

But you are right, the Dems are the old GOP guard. But that is partly the fault of liberal voters that left for the self delusion of the Green Party and helped force the Dems further right. I know, that is literal irony!

You'll have to make a decision as to whether I'm a Russian or an elitist.

I concluded with irrelevant.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

BS wasn't an outsider, he caucused with the Dems. Though we do know that they used him and then abused him and then sabotaged him and finally spit him out. Poor Bernie,he got so beat up so forcfully and fast that his head spun for a long time. May not be done spinning. And he's still loyal. My guess is it's over for BS.

The real irony is that had Hillary not been so corrupt and stole his rightful nomination, BS very likely would have won POTUS over Trump in the general. He was the only candidate from either party that could have beat Trump.

I think BS should get the nobel prize for "being screwed".

Sure, an American socialist could have won. Haw!

 

[poster]

Hope the view from the pedestal is high enough you won’t be able to notice the lost rights Americans suffer from when the unchecked right-wing of SCOTUS enshrines restrictions to the wrong types of people and they expand corporate rights. That’ll be important to help remain smug.

I mean otherwise, you’ll probably feel like an idiot.

But you are right, the Dems are the old GOP guard. But that is partly the fault of liberal voters that left for the self delusion of the Green Party and helped force the Dems further right. I know, that is literal irony!

You'll have to make a decision as to whether I'm a Russian or an elitist.

I concluded with irrelevant.

That's good. But then why do you care how I vote, Right Fighter? The idea behind the thread was for whoever wanted to share their vote to do so and elaborate should they choose. I don't recall, did you do that or just feel like arguing about mine?

 

[poster]

BS wasn't an outsider, he caucused with the Dems. Though we do know that they used him and then abused him and then sabotaged him and finally spit him out. Poor Bernie,he got so beat up so forcfully and fast that his head spun for a long time. May not be done spinning. And he's still loyal. My guess is it's over for BS.

The real irony is that had Hillary not been so corrupt and stole his rightful nomination, BS very likely would have won POTUS over Trump in the general. He was the only candidate from either party that could have beat Trump.

I think BS should get the nobel prize for "being screwed".

Sure, an American socialist could have won. Haw!

Why not? We ended up with an aspie. What do you think there are more of in the US, aspies or socialists?

 

[Politesse]

I just voted! This was my first vote-by-mail, as I have work early tomorrow. I always liked the pageantry of "actual" voting, but I also found it very convenient to work on the ballot slowly over the last few weeks. My partner and I snapped "voting selfies" as we dropped the things off into the Special Voting Box. I count my vote as one of the most important privileges and responsibilities in civic life. Have tried to communicate this value to my students as well... but they are much more cynical as a rule.

Good for you! Am I understanding this is your first time to vote?

Oh heavens no, I've made every election I've been legal for. But usually in person; this is the first time I did an early ballot by mail.

 

[Harry Bosch]

I concluded with irrelevant.

That's good. But then why do you care how I vote, Right Fighter? The idea behind the thread was for whoever wanted to share their vote to do so and elaborate should they choose. I don't recall, did you do that or just feel like arguing about mine?

I more wish that someone could find a tricky method to create a schism in the republican party. It's just very frustrating the republicans can control the entire country by using tricks: gerrymandering, the EC, voter suppression, manipulating the left into throwing away their vote, and etc. (BTW: the EC isn't the republican's fault. They are simply taking advantage of a system that benefits them more than dems.)

 

[Max Rockatansky]

I just voted! This was my first vote-by-mail, as I have work early tomorrow. I always liked the pageantry of "actual" voting, but I also found it very convenient to work on the ballot slowly over the last few weeks. My partner and I snapped "voting selfies" as we dropped the things off into the Special Voting Box. I count my vote as one of the most important privileges and responsibilities in civic life. Have tried to communicate this value to my students as well... but they are much more cynical as a rule.

Good for you! Am I understanding this is your first time to vote?

Oh heavens no, I've made every election I've been legal for. But usually in person; this is the first time I did an early ballot by mail.

When I was in the military, absentee ballots were the norm. Now I just show up for early voting and haven't voted on election day in two decades.

 

[southernhybrid]

I considered it an honor to vote for Stacy Abrams on the second day of early voting in Georgia. I also voted straight blue down the line. The thing I love most about Stacey isn't that she is very progressive. It's that she's extremely intelligent and realizes that you have to work across the aisle to get anything done. She was highly respected by her Republican colleagues when she held the position of minority leader in the Georgia congress. She has applauded our current Republican governor when he did something positive, like drastically lower the incarceration rate in Georgia, by lowering prison terms for non violent crimes. She is the best candidate that I've ever voted for in my life and I'm 69 years old. I'm not stupid and I realize that she may lose, but I've never seen a candidate work as hard to appeal to all kinds of people.

I do have a question for poster. How in the world do you expect Democrats to get anything done when the Republicans control the presidency, both houses of Congress and the judiciary? The Republicans have a history of obstructionism. My wish is for both parties to learn how to compromise. The nation is as divided as I've ever seen it and the only way forward is to for each party to give and take a bit. That's how life works. Otherwise, we will continue to experience this awful dystopia created by Trump and his enablers.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I've got a good internet connection, so I've voted a few thousand time so far today.

Are there any close races which need to be focused on? I'll google what type of voting machines they have in those districts.

 

[poster]

I never do. I mostly watch in amusement. And Lump's idea suits me, not because I'm gullible, but because I'm honest.

Fair enough. But I have a question for you. Like most people, you probably have 20 issues or so that drive you. For example, the issues that drive me are protecting the environment, abortion rights, fiscal policy, protecting the environment, increasing access to education, international cooperation, RnD and economic development, protecting the environment, larger safety net, pro business, pro trade, and last but not least: Protecting the environment.

But you have a lot of issues that are important to you. How many issues does a candidate have to agree with you on to get your vote? For me, it's probably around 75%....

Only one thing drives me, and that is for individuals to be conscious of their actions, thoughts, and beliefs. That's it.

I like to think that I understand that systems and programs are instituted and operated by people, and that fact makes all of those systems susceptible to actions due to greed and fear. So, my only drive is to challenge people when and where I can. To open dialogue and introduce ideas that, perhaps, they haven't considered before. I believe the more members of our species examine themselves that that helps them remain honest and focused on the intentions that introduced the systems that one's culture cherish.

I think any issues that are relevant to survival and healthy reproduction are what almost any person would agree is vital. OTOH, I also think the human species as a whole is so destructive and uncaring in many facets that I often feel the planet would be better off without us. But then, in the end the planet will be swallowed by the sun anyway.

 

[scombrid]

Oh heavens no, I've made every election I've been legal for. But usually in person; this is the first time I did an early ballot by mail.

When I was in the military, absentee ballots were the norm. Now I just show up for early voting and haven't voted on election day in two decades.

I voted this morning. The lines at my polling place early in the morning tend to be a lot shorter than the early voting locations. But that is our little precinct that seems to have more poll workers than voters.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I also think the human species as a whole is so destructive and uncaring in many facets that I often feel the planet would be better off without us. But then, in the end the planet will be swallowed by the sun anyway.

That's the spirit! Hooray for positivity!

 

[Max Rockatansky]

I've got a good internet connection, so I've voted a few thousand time so far today.

Are there any close races which need to be focused on? I'll google what type of voting machines they have in those districts.

Comrade Putin salutes you!

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I've got a good internet connection, so I've voted a few thousand time so far today.

Are there any close races which need to be focused on? I'll google what type of voting machines they have in those districts.

Comrade Putin salutes you!
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Salute, slamoot. Putin pays cash.

 

[JohnG]

That’s the common thread I notice with right wing thinkers. Us vs them, dog eat dog, grab what you can before you die.

We are animals, but a future is possible where we don’t have to live by those rules anymore. We can choose to live a civil existence I believe. Seems crazy, but it’s worth striving for.