Netanyahu has lost his fucking mind

[Jayjay]

I'm sure Israel wouldn't mind them leaving. But the neighbouring countries do.

Maybe Israel could buy all the Gazans dingy boats and let them sail to Europe? Everyone else is doing it.

 

[untermensche]

Do you understand the neighboring countries refuse to take them because they believe the land they are already on is Palestinian land and the Palestinians deserve sovereignty, full sovereignty, of it?

If they agreed to take them Israel would begin loading the trains.

 

[Jayjay]

Do you understand the neighboring countries refuse to take them because they believe the land they are already on is Palestinian land and the Palestinians deserve sovereignty, full sovereignty, of it?

If they agreed to take them Israel would begin loading the trains.

Absolutely. But don't be childish and assume that the reason why Arabs are not taking is any kind of solidarity with Palestinians. They don't want them around anymore than the Jews do.

 

[untermensche]

Do you understand the neighboring countries refuse to take them because they believe the land they are already on is Palestinian land and the Palestinians deserve sovereignty, full sovereignty, of it?

If they agreed to take them Israel would begin loading the trains.

Absolutely. But don't be childish and assume that the reason why Arabs are not taking is any kind of solidarity with Palestinians. They don't want them around anymore than the Jews do.

How many have you spoken to?

 

[angelo]

As taught by the VICTORS in those many conflicts, of which the Nazis were not one.

Neither would Israel if they decided to impose some kind of final solution on the Palestinians.

These two sides....Palestinians and Israelis need to get busy and deal with the environmental degeneration of Gaza. The U.N. has warned that environmental problems mostly in water supply and water pollution and food production are rendering the entire territory uninhabitable and this process has only a very few years left before it becomes a disaster of monumental scope. Netanyahu has ignored this warning and has instead continued to rail against the savages in his world. The same could possibly be said for the Hamas leadership though we never get any real substantive news on what is happening there. Both sides need to cooperate and work out something they can live with or the problem will take down ALL OF PALESTINE....ISRAEL INCLUDED. The environmental problems are monstrous and need attention. This is not something out of the fucking Bible. This is a matter of water and soil chemistry...and destroyed infrastructure and pollution.

If Hamas didn't use the billions in aid given them, on building tunnels under Israel, arms and offensive weapons, perhaps they could help themselves by building infrastructure for the people. Let's not forget who supplies Gaza with power and water.

 

[Jayjay]

Absolutely. But don't be childish and assume that the reason why Arabs are not taking is any kind of solidarity with Palestinians. They don't want them around anymore than the Jews do.

How many have you spoken to?

Actions speak louder than words. Palestinian refugees are denied any civil rights in countries where they are located, and the countries where they aren't won't have them either. That's been the policy of Arab countries for past 70 years or so.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Let's not forget who supplies Gaza with power and water.

Currently, ISRAEL does, since the IDF blew up Gaza's power plants and water treatment facilities during their last "mowing of the lawn."

 

[angelo]

Let's not forget who supplies Gaza with power and water.

Currently, ISRAEL does, since the IDF blew up Gaza's power plants and water treatment facilities during their last "mowing of the lawn."

You profile name suits to a T.

 

[untermensche]

How many have you spoken to?

Actions speak louder than words. Palestinian refugees are denied any civil rights in countries where they are located, and the countries where they aren't won't have them either. That's been the policy of Arab countries for past 70 years or so.

Do you actually have some evidence of this?

The only place I know where they are denied their rights and crimes are continually committed against them is Israel.

 

[iolo]

If Israel is to be acused as the bad guys in the dispute, they may as well really become the bad guys and eliminate the problem once and for all, no? After all, they'd only be doing what the Nazis did to them.

How could the zionist Nazis become worse? They already intend death-camps, but are waiting for the Yanks to pay for them Like Hitler they detest Semites..

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I'm sure Israel wouldn't mind them leaving. But the neighbouring countries do.

Maybe Israel could buy all the Gazans dingy boats and let them sail to Europe? Everyone else is doing it.

Or they could just fuck off out of the Palestinians' Country?

 

[Jayjay]

Actions speak louder than words. Palestinian refugees are denied any civil rights in countries where they are located, and the countries where they aren't won't have them either. That's been the policy of Arab countries for past 70 years or so.

Do you actually have some evidence of this?

The only place I know where they are denied their rights and crimes are continually committed against them is Israel.

Take Lebanon for example. Palestinian refugees cannot own property, are barred from certain professions, and have hard time getting work permits for professions that they are allowed in, even compared to other migrant workers. They can't get any education benefits, social security, or even treatment in hospitals. They have no viable path to citizenship even fi they were born in Lebanon and lived there their entire lives.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Let's not forget who supplies Gaza with power and water.

Currently, ISRAEL does, since the IDF blew up Gaza's power plants and water treatment facilities during their last "mowing of the lawn."

The powerplant caught some fragments.

And the reason such things get hit in the first place is that Hamas uses them to attack from.

Figure every protected item in Gaza is a Hamas facility and you'll rarely (if ever) be wrong.

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Actions speak louder than words. Palestinian refugees are denied any civil rights in countries where they are located, and the countries where they aren't won't have them either. That's been the policy of Arab countries for past 70 years or so.

Do you actually have some evidence of this?

The only place I know where they are denied their rights and crimes are continually committed against them is Israel.

Because all you believe is leftist propaganda pieces.

He's describing the reality of the treatment of the Palestinians. The best place in the Middle East to be a Palestinian is Israel.

 

[untermensche]

Do you actually have some evidence of this?

The only place I know where they are denied their rights and crimes are continually committed against them is Israel.

Take Lebanon for example. Palestinian refugees cannot own property, are barred from certain professions, and have hard time getting work permits for professions that they are allowed in, even compared to other migrant workers. They can't get any education benefits, social security, or even treatment in hospitals. They have no viable path to citizenship even fi they were born in Lebanon and lived there their entire lives.

Well obviously this is bad and there is no excuse for it but these people are truly refugees in Lebanon while in Israel they are kidnapped tortured and murdered from their own land.

And since Israel crushes the Palestinian economy having the right to own something is not much of a right.

What would be nice would be if Israel let the Palestinians trade with the world.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Take Lebanon for example. Palestinian refugees cannot own property, are barred from certain professions, and have hard time getting work permits for professions that they are allowed in, even compared to other migrant workers. They can't get any education benefits, social security, or even treatment in hospitals. They have no viable path to citizenship even fi they were born in Lebanon and lived there their entire lives.

Well obviously this is bad and there is no excuse for it but these people are truly refugees in Lebanon while in Israel they are kidnapped tortured and murdered from their own land.

And since Israel crushes the Palestinian economy having the right to own something is not much of a right.

What would be nice would be if Israel let the Palestinians trade with the world.

What would be nice is if you had some understanding of what's actually going on in the world.

The Palestinians are free to trade with the world. Israel does not impede outgoing goods of any kind, incoming goods are inspected to insure they contain no weapons or dual-use items but otherwise allowed through.

Hamas, though, likes to mess with the commerce. Attacks on the crossing points to get them closed and hurt the local businesses are common.

 

[untermensche]

Well obviously this is bad and there is no excuse for it but these people are truly refugees in Lebanon while in Israel they are kidnapped tortured and murdered from their own land.

And since Israel crushes the Palestinian economy having the right to own something is not much of a right.

What would be nice would be if Israel let the Palestinians trade with the world.

What would be nice is if you had some understanding of what's actually going on in the world.

The Palestinians are free to trade with the world. Israel does not impede outgoing goods of any kind, incoming goods are inspected to insure they contain no weapons or dual-use items but otherwise allowed through.

Hamas, though, likes to mess with the commerce. Attacks on the crossing points to get them closed and hurt the local businesses are common.

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The Palestinian economy is totally controlled by Israel. And crushed.

 

[Jayjay]

Well obviously this is bad and there is no excuse for it but these people are truly refugees in Lebanon while in Israel they are kidnapped tortured and murdered from their own land.

And since Israel crushes the Palestinian economy having the right to own something is not much of a right.

What would be nice would be if Israel let the Palestinians trade with the world.

What would be nice is if you had some understanding of what's actually going on in the world.

The Palestinians are free to trade with the world. Israel does not impede outgoing goods of any kind, incoming goods are inspected to insure they contain no weapons or dual-use items but otherwise allowed through.

Hamas, though, likes to mess with the commerce. Attacks on the crossing points to get them closed and hurt the local businesses are common.

Mr. Pot, meet mr. Kettle.

 

[untermensche]

The Palestinian economy: Israel's control over Area C comes at a price

Analysis: The Palestinian economy needs to exploit the potential for economic development, but Israel thwarts any attempt.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4624580,00.html

Israel's West Bank control 'costing Palestinian economy billions'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/08/palestinian-territories-israel-control-hurting-economy

These are serious crimes and the nature of these crimes are that they lead to other crimes and they are continual 24 hours a day crimes.

To crush the economy of the people you have responsibility over is a despicable crime.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

What would be nice is if you had some understanding of what's actually going on in the world.

The Palestinians are free to trade with the world. Israel does not impede outgoing goods of any kind, incoming goods are inspected to insure they contain no weapons or dual-use items but otherwise allowed through.

Hamas, though, likes to mess with the commerce. Attacks on the crossing points to get them closed and hurt the local businesses are common.

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The Palestinian economy is totally controlled by Israel. And crushed.

Sticking your head in the sand doesn't change the reality on the ground.

The Palestinian economy has been crushed by the Palestinian government--it's a lot easier to recruit terrorists when the people don't have peaceful options.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4624580,00.html

Israel's West Bank control 'costing Palestinian economy billions'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/08/palestinian-territories-israel-control-hurting-economy

These are serious crimes and the nature of these crimes are that they lead to other crimes and they are continual 24 hours a day crimes.

To crush the economy of the people you have responsibility over is a despicable crime.

Both of these articles are talking about area C--6.6% of the Palestinian population. Nothing Israel does in that area can possibly have a major effect on the Palestinian economy. This is just an attempt to blame Israel.

 

[untermensche]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4624580,00.html



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/08/palestinian-territories-israel-control-hurting-economy

These are serious crimes and the nature of these crimes are that they lead to other crimes and they are continual 24 hours a day crimes.

To crush the economy of the people you have responsibility over is a despicable crime.

Both of these articles are talking about area C--6.6% of the Palestinian population. Nothing Israel does in that area can possibly have a major effect on the Palestinian economy. This is just an attempt to blame Israel.

These are examples of Israeli policy all over Palestinian territories.

But no matter how many more I produce you will find a way to excuse Israeli crimes. You are an apologist for kidnapping torture and murder. An apologist for terrorism.

It is a joke to say a nation can freely trade with the world when it is not allowed to have ports or an airport.

A pathetic joke.