NFL 2022/2023

[Colonel Sanders]

I'll take worst ways to end a great game for $1200 Mayim.

Seriously.

What had been an instant classic went up in a puff of smoke with what has to be in the top ten worst calls ever made in an NFL postseason game. Truly chickenshit.

Maybe Philly comes back, maybe they don't. Either way it would've been nice to see.

 

[Tigers!]

Since at home with Covid I watched some of the game. Glad to see 2 Aussies in the Eagles.
The game is too start-stop for me. The game just starts going, everybody stops, half the players leave the field.

Reminds me that if you wanted to ruin rugby American football is the way you would do it (not that I am much a fan of bum sniffing).

 

[steve_bank]

Rugby? Guys in shorts with their noses in each other's butts in a pile? Undignified and unmanly.

American football is a manly game. Big guys knocking each other off heir feet. Running into each other as fast as they can.

What I will remember of this Superbowl is the sound of the ball bouncing off the goal post.

It was competitive, that's all we can ask for.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

I'll take worst ways to end a great game for $1200 Mayim.

Seriously.

What had been an instant classic went up in a puff of smoke with what has to be in the top ten worst calls ever made in an NFL postseason game. Truly chickenshit.

Maybe Philly comes back, maybe they don't. Either way it would've been nice to see.

The Eagles player who committed the penalty said it was the correct call, and he clearly held. The idiots at Fox Sports upheld their low standards by focusing on the part of the play AFTER the infraction occurred, causing millions to believe it was a phantom call. Do things like that get called all the time? No. But in a very cleanly played game, it apparently stood out enough for the call to be made.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'll take worst ways to end a great game for $1200 Mayim.

Seriously.

What had been an instant classic went up in a puff of smoke with what has to be in the top ten worst calls ever made in an NFL postseason game. Truly chickenshit.

Maybe Philly comes back, maybe they don't. Either way it would've been nice to see.

The Eagles player who committed the penalty said it was the correct call, and he clearly held. The idiots at Fox Sports upheld their low standards by focusing on the part of the play AFTER the infraction occurred, causing millions to believe it was a phantom call. Do things like that get called all the time? No. But in a very cleanly played game, it apparently stood out enough for the call to be made.

When the flag was thrown I was thinking, man, that has got to be an egregious hold to throw a flag that is going to hand the Chiefs the game. The reply is shown and that didn't look like a Super Bowl defining penalty. Players are breaking the rules all the time, and for that to be the penalty that gives a team a title, it is soft. Very soft.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

I'll take worst ways to end a great game for $1200 Mayim.

Seriously.

What had been an instant classic went up in a puff of smoke with what has to be in the top ten worst calls ever made in an NFL postseason game. Truly chickenshit.

Maybe Philly comes back, maybe they don't. Either way it would've been nice to see.

The Eagles player who committed the penalty said it was the correct call, and he clearly held. The idiots at Fox Sports upheld their low standards by focusing on the part of the play AFTER the infraction occurred, causing millions to believe it was a phantom call. Do things like that get called all the time? No. But in a very cleanly played game, it apparently stood out enough for the call to be made.

When the flag was thrown I was thinking, man, that has got to be an egregious hold to throw a flag that is going to hand the Chiefs the game. The reply is shown and that didn't look like a Super Bowl defining penalty. Players are breaking the rules all the time, and for that to be the penalty that gives a team a title, it is soft. Very soft.

Exactly. By now I've seen that call from every angle they had and calling it "soft" is generous. I guess it can be called going by the strictest interpretation of the rule, but that would mean a defender could never lay a hand on a receiver at any time after 5 yards. Given the league's implementation of passing rules that help the offense so much, one of the techniques defensive backs have employed is to keep a hand on the receiver while not impeding the route in order to stay close enough to make a play on the ball or the receiver.

It has never been a completely hands-off rule.

Yeah, there was a slight tug on the jersey, but the receiver was never impeded.

Up until that point that game was in the running for one of the greatest Super Bowls ever, but now the whole thing is overshadowed by that shit call.

 

[Elixir]

I'll take worst ways to end a great game for $1200 Mayim.

Zackly.
Coulda woulda shoulda been an exciting finish to a really great game, but a tickytack holding call on 3rd down turned it into a disappointing, boring end of the season.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

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He is the NFL’s greatest quarterback and the 27-year-old heir to the throne of the retiring Brady. He’s the best active football player alive and is on a fast path to one day supplanting Brady as the new GOAT.

Woah there! Tom Brady has been to 10 Super Bowls. TEN!!! Mahomes is great, one of the best in the NFL right now. His abilities is what makes a 10 point lead seem to be not enough to breath calmly.

But supplant Brady? 10-4 record in the Conference final, 7-3 record... in the Super Bowl! It took 20 plus years to also achieve that. He played in more Conference Final games than didn't. In fact, he went to more Super Bowls (10) than Conference finals he didn't go to (9). So while Mahomes is great and appears HoF bound, saying he is on the "fast path" to "supplanting" Brady... that's ridiculous, mainly because Brady's records in the playoffs seem imaginary, they are so out of touch with the likes of anyone else who has ever played.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

link

He is the NFL’s greatest quarterback and the 27-year-old heir to the throne of the retiring Brady. He’s the best active football player alive and is on a fast path to one day supplanting Brady as the new GOAT.

Woah there! Tom Brady has been to 10 Super Bowls. TEN!!! Mahomes is great, one of the best in the NFL right now. His abilities is what makes a 10 point lead seem to be not enough to breath calmly.

But supplant Brady? 10-4 record in the Conference final, 7-3 record... in the Super Bowl! It took 20 plus years to also achieve that. He played in more Conference Final games than didn't. In fact, he went to more Super Bowls (10) than Conference finals he didn't go to (9). So while Mahomes is great and appears HoF bound, saying he is on the "fast path" to "supplanting" Brady... that's ridiculous, mainly because Brady's records in the playoffs seem imaginary, they are so out of touch with the likes of anyone else who has ever played.

Mahomes is the best player in the league right now, and has been for several years. No, he’s not the best QB ever, but he could be some day. He can do everything Brady did, and more.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

link

He is the NFL’s greatest quarterback and the 27-year-old heir to the throne of the retiring Brady. He’s the best active football player alive and is on a fast path to one day supplanting Brady as the new GOAT.

Woah there! Tom Brady has been to 10 Super Bowls. TEN!!! Mahomes is great, one of the best in the NFL right now. His abilities is what makes a 10 point lead seem to be not enough to breath calmly.

But supplant Brady? 10-4 record in the Conference final, 7-3 record... in the Super Bowl! It took 20 plus years to also achieve that. He played in more Conference Final games than didn't. In fact, he went to more Super Bowls (10) than Conference finals he didn't go to (9). So while Mahomes is great and appears HoF bound, saying he is on the "fast path" to "supplanting" Brady... that's ridiculous, mainly because Brady's records in the playoffs seem imaginary, they are so out of touch with the likes of anyone else who has ever played.

Mahomes is the best player in the league right now, and has been for several years. No, he’s not the best QB ever, but he could be some day. He can do everything Brady did, and more.

That isn't true. Mahomes can't run as poorly as Brady could.

I'm saying that at 14 Conference finals and 10 Super Bowls, for someone to say Mahomes is on "fast track" to passing Brady is insane. Mahomes has 3 Super Bowl appearances and 5 AFC Championship appearances. I mean, that alone is awesome and puts him in very rare company. But fast track? It took Brady 20 years to get there. Mahomes isn't even half way there, he needs 9 more conference finals and 7 more Super Bowls (or maybe just 6 if he wins them all), so it'd be pretty early on that Fast Track.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

link

He is the NFL’s greatest quarterback and the 27-year-old heir to the throne of the retiring Brady. He’s the best active football player alive and is on a fast path to one day supplanting Brady as the new GOAT.

Woah there! Tom Brady has been to 10 Super Bowls. TEN!!! Mahomes is great, one of the best in the NFL right now. His abilities is what makes a 10 point lead seem to be not enough to breath calmly.

But supplant Brady? 10-4 record in the Conference final, 7-3 record... in the Super Bowl! It took 20 plus years to also achieve that. He played in more Conference Final games than didn't. In fact, he went to more Super Bowls (10) than Conference finals he didn't go to (9). So while Mahomes is great and appears HoF bound, saying he is on the "fast path" to "supplanting" Brady... that's ridiculous, mainly because Brady's records in the playoffs seem imaginary, they are so out of touch with the likes of anyone else who has ever played.

Mahomes is the best player in the league right now, and has been for several years. No, he’s not the best QB ever, but he could be some day. He can do everything Brady did, and more.

That isn't true. Mahomes can't run as poorly as Brady could.

I'm saying that at 14 Conference finals and 10 Super Bowls, for someone to say Mahomes is on "fast track" to passing Brady is insane.

I agree completely. We’re unlikely to see the combination of Brady’s excellence, the strong teams he played on, including (or maybe even most importantly) the defenses, plus the tomato cans in their division that annually gifted them with 6 wins and a good chance at a first-round bye.

Interesting facts about Brady: he’s taken a top-5 offense into the Super Bowl three times, and lost all three, including the 18-0 “video game” record-setting offense in 2007. The other two were ranked first and second. He also won his first two with offenses ranked in the bottom half of the league. Brady was a great, dedicated player, but he wouldn’t have come anywhere close to that record without being in the right place at the right time. And that includes signing with a loaded Tampa Bay team that was a competent QB away from being dominant.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I think Brady and the Patriots were a symbiosis. They both needed each other. His throws against the Raiders in the snow would become a constant in his career in the playoffs (usually... when they weren't losing to the Ravens by three digits). He drove teams to victory repeatedly. He never won a Super Bowl by a blow out. He always managed to execute as needed. And while the game calling, organization management, were others, Brady was more likely than not, going to get the ball where it needed to be. The one other thing to consider with Brady is his endurance. No one, has done what he did at his age. Tampa was built to win the Super Bowl, but he was still in his 40s acting like a Super Bowl MVP, unlike Manning who was awful and leaned heavily on a massive defense.

And for clarity sake, Mahomes in my opinion is better than Brady, possibly much better. His capacity as a mobile QB that can throw very well is near unmatched. Brady couldn't run and his long ball wasn't great. Brady is such an odd bird, one of the best executors when it counted, but technically not as great a QB as those he towers above with his accomplishments.

 

[WAB]

I'll take worst ways to end a great game for $1200 Mayim.

Zackly...

Zackly...I've heard of that. It's when your breath smells zackly like your ass.

My mom loves that one. But her favorite is the detergent, Fug. Their slogan was, "Can't clean it? Fug it."

 

[hyzer]

Dear NFL

If you have a sign-reading translator for the anthemes perhaps you ought to put that person picture-in-picture with the singer. It's visual, get it?

Perhaps painting nearly the entire center of the field from 25 yard line to 25 yard line with a silicone-based paint was not the best idea. It's a field first, not a billboard. Every single person attending and watching knows this is the NFL Super Bowl, and frankly no one knows what the Roman Numbers stand for so you covered the field with completely useless information. Don't do this. Get it?

Perhaps the condition of the field needs to be guaranteed. Watching players fall down without being touched is not football. Get it?

Perhaps your SOP for the use of instant replay needs to be reconsidered. We watch 15 angles on the receiver not quite or maybe quite making a catch and we listen to the rules analysts and commentators talk about what constitutes a catch when no one mentions that defensive pass interference was performed on that receiver before the ball arrived and perhaps that is why the receiver had to adjust the ball twice while being tackled. If you are going to hold on to "instant replay makes the game better because it catches things the on-field refs missed" then you have got to figure out that during a replay that perhaps a flag can be thrown then on the pass interference. Fair is fair. Get it?

Whatever happened to the line of scrimmage? Isn't the very first rule that each team lines up on their own side of the ball. Don't you have a ref on each sideline looking straight down this line before every play? I am not saying that the end result is fixed, but I will say that the fix is in on ignoring this. It is a line that everyone on TV can see, remember the 57 cameras? We can see this. Stop it. Get it?

Your players and your audience deserve much better. And speaking of your players - perhaps THE best thing about this game was the performance of the players during and after the game (despite your failings). Humility and grace on both sides, hearty congrats to the players and coaches on both teams. Well done, well done, I get it.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Lamar Jackson, the NFL’s shining example of Dunning-Kruger, has finally announced that he wants to be traded because the Ravens’ offer of the second-highest contract in league history ‘doesn’t meet my value’.

He’s not using an agent to help with negotiations, he’s missed 30% of games in the last two years, has gotten consistently worse since his MVP year, and sat out a playoff game under suspicious circumstances. But he wants a DeSean Watson contract, plus a little extra. He’s an idiot.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Ego. I wonder if the Ravens explained the Cap to him and that Cleveland was reckless with the Watson contract. Even if the Browns win one Super Bowl (has to be this year), it won't be worth it. Four years of suck (with him as QB) for one great year (at best). Funny part, I'm certain the Ravens want him, they can't afford that salary, no one can. So where does he think he can go, other than an awful franchise that'll suck while he plays for him because he is sucking 25% of the team salary.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Lamar signs, hours before the draft, for $1m/year more than Hurts. His injury guaranteed amount is also $1m/year more. No report yet on the fully guaranteed amount. Also no info on whether there’s a no-trade clause.

Not a Watson-type contract, but that wasn’t going to happen anywhere. The only disappointed people will be the talking heads on the draft shows who won’t be able to speculate on a blockbuster deal.

 

[WAB]

I predict a 5-11 season for the Jets with Aaron Rodgers.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

I predict a 5-11 season for the Jets with Aaron Rodgers.

I think they win at least 8, with the small advantage of playing a 4th-place schedule.

 

[WAB]

I predict a 5-11 season for the Jets with Aaron Rodgers.

I think they win at least 8, with the small advantage of playing a 4th-place schedule.

Well, I've been a Jets fan since 1969, when I was five and saw Joe Willy win the Super Bowl. I have learned in the last 50+ years to keep my expectations to a minimum.