No comments on Madison Square Garden?

[Politesse]

They have no choice. We sent 16,000 troops to conquer their island and bring it into our imperial holdings in 1898, and have wasted no dollar or muscle in trying to squelch any and all national independence movements ever since then. Roughly that same number of troops maintains that occupation to this day, "overseeing" the island and controlling our interests in the Caribbean from Fort Buchanan in the territorial capital of San Juan. It's honestly not all that clear why the US is so obsessed with keeping the territory, but your tax dollars pay for it and your soldiers are ready to lay down their lives to keep it. Blaming a conquered people for "choosing to live" under imperial domination is fucking absurd. I assume what you really mean is that you want PR citizens to stay on the island and never emigrate to the mainland, but that is no more reasonable. We claim their bodies and homes as our plenary property, and even so you want to deny them the most basic rights of the citizen, free transit within their own country? Fuck that.

I confess, I do not know anything about the Island of Puerto Rico's history and place in the USA. But to say I "want to deny them the most basic rights of the citizen, free transit within their own country" is just bonkers. I have said nothing of the sort.

Ignorance of history does not exempt you from responsibility for the statements you make about it. If you had an elementary education im the country, you were taught at least the bare outlines of this history.

Seems you have forgotten, I was not born in the USA and I went to school in Europe. So I think my ignorance on the subject of Puerto Rico should be expected. It's just something not covered in the curriculum.

It most certainly sounded as though you do not want Puerto Ricans to move to the mainland.

No it did not. This is you just making shit up again. Something you have a habit of doing.

Now of course, Americans are not exactly infamous for our geographical expertise. But last I looked Spain, the other belligerent party in that war, was in Europe.

In any case, I'm glad you now know where Puerto Rico is and who lives there.

I'm not from Spain.

So what sort of history do they teach in Europe? I'd like to imagine the other continents at least warrant a mention, considering the number you did on all of us! I mean, plenty of places still pay their taxes to a European power. Or speak a European language. Heck, I'm typing in one right now, albeit with dismally colonial syntax. Spain's involvement in Puerto Rico is a indirectly a major reason why Anglo-Americans are so terrified of its residents. They speak Spanish! Hide the children and the welfare checks!

 

[TSwizzle]

So what sort of history do they teach in Europe?

I have no idea, I left school decades ago.

I'd like to imagine the other continents at least warrant a mention, considering the number you did on all of us! I mean, plenty of places still pay their taxes to a European power. Or speak a European language. Heck, I'm typing in one right now, albeit with dismally colonial syntax.

You should pay more taxes you ungrateful lot.

Spain's involvement in Puerto Rico is a indirectly a major reason why Anglo-Americans are so terrified of its residents. They speak Spanish! Hide the children and the welfare checks!

Nah, I don't think so.

 

[Politesse]

Spain's involvement in Puerto Rico is a indirectly a major reason why Anglo-Americans are so terrified of its residents. They speak Spanish! Hide the children and the welfare checks!

Nah, I don't think so.

Really? You never listen to Trump rallies, or what? Those guys are terrified of "Hispanics".

 

[TSwizzle]

Spain's involvement in Puerto Rico is a indirectly a major reason why Anglo-Americans are so terrified of its residents. They speak Spanish! Hide the children and the welfare checks!

Nah, I don't think so.

Really? You never listen to Trump rallies, or what?

Nope, I never listen to Trump for more than thirty seconds, he grates the ears.

Those guys are terrified of "Hispanics".

Are they really now? Maybe they are but that's MAGA which not all Anglo-Americans, well definitely not this Anglo-American and any other Anglo-Americans I know. I suspect this is you making shit up again as you are prone to do.

 

[Politesse]

Spain's involvement in Puerto Rico is a indirectly a major reason why Anglo-Americans are so terrified of its residents. They speak Spanish! Hide the children and the welfare checks!

Nah, I don't think so.

Really? You never listen to Trump rallies, or what?

Nope, I never listen to Trump for more than thirty seconds, he grates the ears.

Those guys are terrified of "Hispanics".

Are they really now? Maybe they are but that's MAGA which not all Anglo-Americans, well definitely not this Anglo-American and any other Anglo-Americans I know. I suspect this is you making shit up again as you are prone to do.

You've.... never met an American who freaked out about the Spanish language? What rock do you live under?

 

[TSwizzle]

Spain's involvement in Puerto Rico is a indirectly a major reason why Anglo-Americans are so terrified of its residents. They speak Spanish! Hide the children and the welfare checks!

Nah, I don't think so.

Really? You never listen to Trump rallies, or what?

Nope, I never listen to Trump for more than thirty seconds, he grates the ears.

Those guys are terrified of "Hispanics".

Are they really now? Maybe they are but that's MAGA which not all Anglo-Americans, well definitely not this Anglo-American and any other Anglo-Americans I know. I suspect this is you making shit up again as you are prone to do.

You've.... never met an American who freaked out about the Spanish language? What rock do you live under?

I don't know what that even means!! What are you wasting my bandwidth about now?

 

[ZiprHead]

Seems you have forgotten, I was not born in the USA and I went to school in Europe. So I think my ignorance on the subject of Puerto Rico should be expected. It's just something not covered in the curriculum.

Let me guess. Germany, then Brazil, then the US.

 

[laughing dog]

Speaking of racist jokes that denigrate an entire race of people, here we have Kamala and the Knucklehead making fun of white people:

Gov Walz is making fun if Minnesotans - his state and himself- and VP Harris isn’t making fun of anyone.

 

[Elixir]

In Venezuela children are taught that Puerto Rico belongs to Russia and the US invaded and is occupying it.
Not everyone can know everything about everything like people with very big brains do.

VP Harris isn’t making fun of anyone.

She needs to get busy with the mushroom jokes.

 

[Politesse]

What's wrong with making fun of white people? Can't we take a joke?

 

[ideologyhunter]

You have just assaulted the albino community.
I sympathize with the white community, always have. (I belong to the CTS community -- coral to salmon.)

 

[thebeave]

Trump is milking the "garbage" comments for all its worth...

 

[Elixir]

How could anyone vote for someone who considers Puerto Ricans 'piles of garbage'?

Tony Hinchcliffe is running for office?

Yes, he’s Joe Biden’s running mate.

 

[southernhybrid]

At least Biden corrected himself and said his garbage comment was meant for the racist comedian and not all Trump supporters. Considering that Biden has had a life long problem with getting his words out correctly, he was probably being sincere. Either that, or he was angry and frustrated and said something off the cuff, later correcting himself for saying something mean. Of course, the MAGA leaders will use any little insult or misstatement made by a Democrat and blow it up, while they continue to get away with the most hateful, racist, sexist language that has ever came out of the mouth of a presidential candidate, publicly.

 

[ideologyhunter]

Don't forget obscene. Amazing how Trump shatters all norms on obscenity while posing as a devout Christian.

(I know, the Trumpies will play what-aboutism, and there is a selective tradition of Presidential obscenity in our history:
Abraham Lincoln, second inaugural: "Some will say, in the fast grip of passion, indict the motherfuckers, throw them in the hole, but I say we will bind up the nation's wounds with malice toward none."
Wm. Howard Taft, at a campaign stop in Paducah, KY, in 1908: "You all know my wife, Nellie. Nellie, come up here. We met at a party in 18 and 80, and before the evening concluded, I moved on her like a bitch."
FDR, after Pearl Harbor: "Yesterday - December 7, 1941 - a date which will live in infamy, the United States was suddenly and deliberately attacked by a shithole country, really a piece of floating garbage in the Eastern sea."
Harry S. Truman, announcing the use of the A-bomb: "The force from which the sun draws its power has been used to bomb the shit out of those who brought war to the Far East."
Ronald Reagan, 1980 debate with Fritz Mondale: "I won't criticize my opponent's youth and inexperience. But shucks, he was a shit vice president, wouldn't you agree?"
But it is evident that those uses of obscene language were highly strategic and were used to deal with crisis events -- well, except for Taft.)

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trump is milking the "garbage" comments for all its worth...

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Tried to steal an election because of "fraud" that he didn't contest in a court... but hey, he is pwning the libs in a garbage truck LOL.

This is effectively what is wrong with the right-wing today. Their sense of perspective is trashed.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Now of course, Americans are not exactly infamous for our geographical expertise. But last I looked Spain, the other belligerent party in that war, was in Europe.

In any case, I'm glad you now know where Puerto Rico is and who lives there.

I'm not from Spain.

I thought you were from Egypt because of all the denial.

Yeah, I'll see myself out.

 

[Politesse]

So presidential campaigns do costumes and skits, now? For a straight guy, Trump sure has queered up the electoral concept some.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trump is milking the "garbage" comments for all its worth...

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Wait a second... I've seen this before.

 

[ZiprHead]

Here’s the equivalent joke comparison (not the couch one):

“i hear there’s a giant garbage dump up in the mountains. I think it’s called Appalachia.”

"Basket of deplorables" certainly came close.
And Biden calling Trump supporters "garbage" is right there.

Yes, that was stupid too and Harris already distanced herself from it, unlike Trump did with the PR “joke”.

Yeah,all those Trump supporters who were going to vote for Harris may change their minds.