No I'm just challenging your characterization of western media bias as "bullshit conspiracy theory" while you engage in your own conspiracy theory that anti-Ukrainian posters here are paid shills. Like I said for you "conspiracy theory" is a narrative that disagrees with the narrative you've chosen to believe.
First off, I used the term "bullshit conspiracy theory" in response to your use of the term "western media narrative." Implicit in the term you used is an allegation that a story of some questionable accuracy is being deliberately constructed by an entity (the "western media") with a built in anti-Russian or pro-Ukrainian agenda.
Yet the "western media" is not some singular entity, let alone one capable of constructing a coherent narrative on purpose which disagrees with the facts. There is no "western media narrative" at all. That is a figment of your imagination. Generally speaking, the news reporting by a wide range of independent (as opposed to state controlled) media outlets indicates the story so far is:
A civilian airliner was shot down by a missile over territory controlled by pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine.
It was shot down with a missile system built by Russia.
Who was in control of that missile system has not been established, however in order for it to have accomplished the shoot down it would have to be operated by trained military personnel. This is not some toy or a shoulder launched weapon that can be operated by one gung ho rebel. This is an advanced strategic weapons system.
Russia has been supplying weapons, training, support, and possibly personnel to the pro-Russian separatists in the region. Whether they supplied the missile system directly or captured it from Ukraine is unclear, but all indications are that the missile system was in separatist controlled territory, the missile was fired from that territory, and the plane came down in that territory.
That is the general consensus, at least.
The only outfit challenging that consensus (or at least the loudest) is the Russian state-controlled media. Now we have direct evidence that an attempt to blame the shoot-down on the Ukrainian military came from a Russian government source.
Of course the Ukraine government is going to deny that. Of course the Kremlin is going to deny (as they have) sending anything into Ukraine other than positive thoughts and letters of encouragement to the "freedom fighters" challenging the "nazi" regime in Kiev.
Yet the idea that there is some gigantic conspiracy between all the "western media" outlets to construct a "narrative" that supports Ukraine in spite of evidence to the contrary (of which there is precious little) is bullshit.
Now I'll admit that using the phrase "paid shill" is over the top. I have no reason to believe barbos or tupac are being paid.
