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Well, this is what the police said:

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A crowd has formed at the officer involved shooting scene. Some participants have thrown objects and tried to enter the closed area. An officer’s baton was grabbed by someone and when another officer intervened, the officer was sprayed with a chemical. <a href="https://t.co/eHxcBXTrOg">pic.twitter.com/eHxcBXTrOg</a></p>— Portland Police (@PortlandPolice) <a href="https://twitter.com/PortlandPolice/status/1408303481962655744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

And this is video of what happened.

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A bystander caught the moment PPB assaulted and maced peaceful protesters on scene - this video is very intense, warning.<br>Credit <a href="https://twitter.com/running_50?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@running_50</a> <a href="https://t.co/TiMmIRSKAG">pic.twitter.com/TiMmIRSKAG</a></p>— Grace Morgan (@gravemorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/gravemorgan/status/1408313568299130880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

The first video doesn't show the trigger, it's useless. The second doesn't look good for the cops, though.
 

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Well, this is what the police said:

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A crowd has formed at the officer involved shooting scene. Some participants have thrown objects and tried to enter the closed area. An officer’s baton was grabbed by someone and when another officer intervened, the officer was sprayed with a chemical. <a href="https://t.co/eHxcBXTrOg">pic.twitter.com/eHxcBXTrOg</a></p>— Portland Police (@PortlandPolice) <a href="https://twitter.com/PortlandPolice/status/1408303481962655744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

And this is video of what happened.

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A bystander caught the moment PPB assaulted and maced peaceful protesters on scene - this video is very intense, warning.<br>Credit <a href="https://twitter.com/running_50?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@running_50</a> <a href="https://t.co/TiMmIRSKAG">pic.twitter.com/TiMmIRSKAG</a></p>— Grace Morgan (@gravemorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/gravemorgan/status/1408313568299130880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

The first video doesn't show the trigger, it's useless. The second doesn't look good for the cops, though.


Indeed, it looks bad. No passive voice is appropriate here.
 

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Pawtucket police officer charged with felony assault for shooting teen in West Greenwich

PAWTUCKET, R.I. (WPRI) — A Pawtucket police officer who shot an 18-year-old man in the arm last week while off-duty is now facing charges including felony assault.

R.I. Attorney General Peter Neronha’s office charged Officer Daniel Dolan, 38, with three counts of assault and one count of discharging a firearm in a crime of violence, also a felony. He is scheduled to be arraigned July 16.

State police say Dolan, who was wearing street clothes and in his personal truck, shot Dominic Vincent in the arm outside a pizza shop after attempting to stop Vincent’s car.

According to a state police report filed Thursday in Kent County Superior Court, Dolan told detectives he got off work around 7:40 p.m. Wednesday and drove to a liquor store, where he purchased a six-pack of beer, opened one and “took a sip from the bottle” before continuing to drive home on I-95 South.

Dolan told detectives he saw a black Audi — driven by Vincent — speeding down the highway, and thought he might be in a high-speed pursuit with police, though he didn’t see any officers.

Dolan followed Vincent off the highway and into the parking lot of Wicked Good Pizza in West Greenwich, where Vincent and two friends told police they were planning to get pizza for a sleepover party.

Just a sip. Riiiiiight...
 

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Pawtucket police officer charged with felony assault for shooting teen in West Greenwich

PAWTUCKET, R.I. (WPRI) — A Pawtucket police officer who shot an 18-year-old man in the arm last week while off-duty is now facing charges including felony assault.

R.I. Attorney General Peter Neronha’s office charged Officer Daniel Dolan, 38, with three counts of assault and one count of discharging a firearm in a crime of violence, also a felony. He is scheduled to be arraigned July 16.

State police say Dolan, who was wearing street clothes and in his personal truck, shot Dominic Vincent in the arm outside a pizza shop after attempting to stop Vincent’s car.

According to a state police report filed Thursday in Kent County Superior Court, Dolan told detectives he got off work around 7:40 p.m. Wednesday and drove to a liquor store, where he purchased a six-pack of beer, opened one and “took a sip from the bottle” before continuing to drive home on I-95 South.

Dolan told detectives he saw a black Audi — driven by Vincent — speeding down the highway, and thought he might be in a high-speed pursuit with police, though he didn’t see any officers.

Dolan followed Vincent off the highway and into the parking lot of Wicked Good Pizza in West Greenwich, where Vincent and two friends told police they were planning to get pizza for a sleepover party.

Just a sip. Riiiiiight...

They say he blew a 0.00. However, his actions clearly violate the open container law.

The basic problem here is traffic stops by anything other than a properly-marked vehicle. There have been too many cases of fake cops pulling people over. It should take some pretty extreme conditions for an officer to pull someone over if they're not in a vehicle that is obviously police. (Fake cops can fake the badge and the uniform, faking a whole cruiser is quite another matter and will almost certainly not fool the real police so the fake would soon be spotted.) Anybody who is going to pull over in the first place almost certainly is someone who they could just follow and call it in.
 

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Woman shot with rubber bullet at point blank range.

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Woman was shot at point blank range this afternoon with a rubber bullet by police for no apparent reason. She was a counter-protestor at the anti-trans rally at WiSpa in LA. <a href="https://t.co/19ZjDVmrpE">pic.twitter.com/19ZjDVmrpE</a></p>— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) <a href="https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1416519459616038915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]
 

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[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cop caught in 4K planting evidence <a href="https://t.co/JquHZHS8DW">pic.twitter.com/JquHZHS8DW</a></p>— Ivan Ooze (@sivrajxx) <a href="https://twitter.com/sivrajxx/status/1418999469241257990?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

I wonder what the excuse will be.
 

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I have an idea that will increase the safety of both the general public & officers while helping in the apprehension/death of real criminals. If innocent surrender your rights upon the officer's request and you MIGHT live. If you're a criminal on the other hand run, and you're definitely done. Now, what we should do for the mentally challenged/disabled (or whatever word doesn't offened) is anyone else's guess but I suggest we deputize them all so officers don't kill them. Their interpersonal skills and the ability to deescalate are already in lockstep with a substantial number of the current police force.
 

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Five Miami Beach cops charged after pummeling two men in hotel lobby. Video released

Five Miami Beach police officers were hit with criminal charges on Monday for using excessive force on a man in handcuffs and for pummeling a bystander who was videotaping the incident on his cellphone.

Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle, with Miami Beach Police Chief Richard Clements at her side, announced the charges after showing a four-minute video clip in which 21 officers descend on a man they chased into a South Beach hotel, who is alleged to have hit an officer with his motor scooter.

In the video, one officer repeatedly kicks the handcuffed man in the head, before another officer picks him up and slams his head to the ground. A short while later a group of officers redirect their attention to a man videotaping the incident. He’s soon slammed into a concrete pillar, then repeatedly punched and elbowed in the head and rib cage while on the ground.

Video in the link.
 

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Five Miami Beach cops charged after pummeling two men in hotel lobby. Video released

Five Miami Beach police officers were hit with criminal charges on Monday for using excessive force on a man in handcuffs and for pummeling a bystander who was videotaping the incident on his cellphone.

Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle, with Miami Beach Police Chief Richard Clements at her side, announced the charges after showing a four-minute video clip in which 21 officers descend on a man they chased into a South Beach hotel, who is alleged to have hit an officer with his motor scooter.

In the video, one officer repeatedly kicks the handcuffed man in the head, before another officer picks him up and slams his head to the ground. A short while later a group of officers redirect their attention to a man videotaping the incident. He’s soon slammed into a concrete pillar, then repeatedly punched and elbowed in the head and rib cage while on the ground.

Video in the link.

I read about that this morning. Didn't watch the video, didn't need to. What's their reasoning?
 

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I have an idea that will increase the safety of both the general public & officers while helping in the apprehension/death of real criminals. If innocent surrender your rights upon the officer's request and you MIGHT live. If you're a criminal on the other hand run, and you're definitely done. Now, what we should do for the mentally challenged/disabled (or whatever word doesn't offened) is anyone else's guess but I suggest we deputize them all so officers don't kill them. Their interpersonal skills and the ability to deescalate are already in lockstep with a substantial number of the current police force.

There have been cases where the person "resisting" had no idea they were doing so and there have been cases where they had no idea their "attacker" was the police.
 

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Five Miami Beach cops charged after pummeling two men in hotel lobby. Video released

Five Miami Beach police officers were hit with criminal charges on Monday for using excessive force on a man in handcuffs and for pummeling a bystander who was videotaping the incident on his cellphone.

Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle, with Miami Beach Police Chief Richard Clements at her side, announced the charges after showing a four-minute video clip in which 21 officers descend on a man they chased into a South Beach hotel, who is alleged to have hit an officer with his motor scooter.

In the video, one officer repeatedly kicks the handcuffed man in the head, before another officer picks him up and slams his head to the ground. A short while later a group of officers redirect their attention to a man videotaping the incident. He’s soon slammed into a concrete pillar, then repeatedly punched and elbowed in the head and rib cage while on the ground.

Video in the link.

I read about that this morning. Didn't watch the video, didn't need to. What's their reasoning?

An officer was injured therefore the officers are authorized to retaliate tenfold. They just don't have the legal backing and Mr. Floyd brought about more accountability so the officers are up shits creek.
 

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The man the were looking for in the domestic disturbance call... was not the man with the dog. They had the wrong person.
 

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Police leave disabled Colorado woman with nearly $1,600 toll bill after using her stolen license plate

A 52-year-old Westminster woman with back problems faces $1,592.72 in E-470 toll charges because the president of the Colorado Fraternal Order of Police, who also headed the narcotics unit of the Longmont Police Department, used a stolen license plate that comes back as registered to her.

The state has barred the woman, Debra Romero, from renewing the registration for her car, which expired in May, until she pays off the unpaid tolls she didn’t accrue. She said she’s left with no car to drive and has had to rely on her two children to drive her to her appointments with a doctor as she considers undergoing her third back surgery.

Internal police records show Acting Police Sgt. Stephen Schulz, who headed the Longmont Police Department’s narcotics unit, took the unclaimed recovered license plate from the police department’s property and evidence room and began using the plate on an unmarked take-home police car.
 

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The man the were looking for in the domestic disturbance call... was not the man with the dog. They had the wrong person.

We give badges and weapons to fucking depraved pieces of shit.
 

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Cop sees dogs that he doesn't know if they are vicious. Leaps out of the safety of his vehicle & shoots the dog because he didn't feel safe. Welp folks there you have it, it was the dog's fault for appearing aggressive. The cop had no idea if the dog was nice or not, plus it should have been on a leash (all of which the cop could have confirmed or had done from the safety of his vehicle using the built-in megaphone).
 

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Cop sees dogs that he doesn't know if they are vicious. Leaps out of the safety of his vehicle & shoots the dog because he didn't feel safe. Welp folks there you have it, it was the dog's fault for appearing aggressive. The cop had no idea if the dog was nice or not, plus it should have been on a leash (all of which the cop could have confirmed or had done from the safety of his vehicle using the built-in megaphone).

The dog didn't appear aggressive to me.
 

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Cop sees dogs that he doesn't know if they are vicious. Leaps out of the safety of his vehicle & shoots the dog because he didn't feel safe. Welp folks there you have it, it was the dog's fault for appearing aggressive. The cop had no idea if the dog was nice or not, plus it should have been on a leash (all of which the cop could have confirmed or had done from the safety of his vehicle using the built-in megaphone).

The dog didn't appear aggressive to me.

Me neither. The tail-wagging should have given it away. I was speaking sarcastically.
 

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I mean if you think about it if I discharged my weapon and killed an actually vicious dog id most likely have to explain how it was my only option. But cops? Nope, whatever reason they gave is accepted as their only option (most of the time). I see excuses given for them like "it's easy to speak in hindsight! You don't know what that officer felt in that moment". I get that, my issue is I'd be investigated like a mutha fucka and highly likely thrown in jail for shooting their dog after facing hindsight-based charges. It's how the fucking law works!
 

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Police, paramedics charged in death of Elijah McClain

Elijah McClain’s Father Tells Joy Reid 'All Blacks In Colorado’ Have A Fear Of Police - YouTube
"Elijah McClain’s father discusses the grand jury indictment of officers and medics involved in his son’s 2019 death. LaWayne Mosley also tells Joy Reid, ‘that's not his character, that's not his nature,’ regarding the Aurora police union claiming McClain violently resisted arrest in its issued statement."

JR showed a presentation graphic of the charges:
GRAND JURY INDICTS 5 OFFICERS AND PARAMEDICS INVOLVED IN ELIJAH MCCLAIN'S DEATH

RANDY ROEDEMA & NATHAN WOODYARD AURORA POLICE OFFICERS
1 count of manslaughter
1 count of criminally negligent homicide
1 count of second-degree assault with intent to cause bodily injury
1 count of a crime of violence related to the 2nd-degree assault, bodily injury charge

JASON ROSENBLATT FORMER AURORA POLICE OFFICER count of manslaughter
1 count of manslaughter
1 count of criminally negligent homicide

JEREMY COOPER & PETER CHICHUNIEC AURORA FIRE & RESCUE PARAMEDICS
1 count of manslaughter
1 count of criminally negligent homicide
1 count second-degree assault with intent to cause bodily injury
1 count 2nd-degree assault for recklessly causing serious bodily injury by means of a deadly weapon (Ketamine)
1 count second-degree assault for a purpose other than lawful medical or therapeutic treatment
2 counts of crimes of violence for each of the assault charges
 

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Urban Dictionary: testilying "The act of fabricating evidence and testifying falsely in court, esp. when performed by an officer of the law. Coined by the Mollen Commission (1994)."

‘Testilying’ by Police: A Stubborn Problem - The New York Times
An investigation by The New York Times has found that on more than 25 occasions since January 2015, judges or prosecutors determined that a key aspect of a New York City police officer’s testimony was probably untrue. The Times identified these cases — many of which are sealed — through interviews with lawyers, police officers and current and former judges.

In these cases, officers have lied about the whereabouts of guns, putting them in suspects’ hands or waistbands when they were actually hidden out of sight. They have barged into apartments and conducted searches, only to testify otherwise later. Under oath, they have given firsthand accounts of crimes or arrests that they did not in fact witness. They have falsely claimed to have watched drug deals happen, only to later recant or be shown to have lied.

No detail, seemingly, is too minor to embellish. “Clenched fists” is how one Brooklyn officer described the hands of a man he claimed had angrily approached him and started screaming and yelling — an encounter that prosecutors later determined never occurred. Another officer, during a Bronx trial, accused a driver of recklessly crossing the double-yellow line — on a stretch of road that had no double-yellow line.

In many instances, the motive for lying was readily apparent: to skirt constitutional restrictions against unreasonable searches and stops. In other cases, the falsehoods appear aimed at convicting people — who may or may not have committed a crime — with trumped-up evidence.
 

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Promotions, Not Punishments, for Officers Accused of Lying - The New York Times
Of the 81 cases in which a civilian review board found an officer had lied, the Police Department pursued “false statement” charges in only two.

For years, the Civilian Complaint Review Board, a New York City agency that investigates abusive police behavior, has documented every instance it believes it has caught an officer lying. The cases rarely present much of a mystery: Often they involve officers who deny throwing a punch or who downplay the force used during an arrest — only to have their accounts undermined by video recordings.

But the civilian board has no power to mete out discipline in such cases; it refers them to the Police Department for further investigation and possible action.

In case after case, the Police Department reaches the same finding: There is not enough evidence to determine whether the police officer made a false statement, The New York Times found.

The board has been notified of only two cases — out of the 81 it has been able to track since 2010 — in which the Police Department’s Internal Affairs Bureau upheld the board’s accusation that the officer had made a false statement. In the other 79 cases, the Police Department found no wrongdoing or found the officer guilty of lesser misconduct, such as failing to properly fill out a memo book, according to information provided by the board and a document obtained by The Times.
So the cops aren't very good at policing themselves.

Police ‘Testilying’ Remains a Problem. Here Is How the Criminal Justice System Could Reduce It. - The New York Times - "After investigating police lying, our reporter examines ways to curb the practice."

"Police perjury is often described as an intractable problem, an unfortunate but unavoidable reality in a criminal justice system that relies to a great degree on the testimony of police officers. But that would suggest that the criminal justice system has tried and failed to tackle the problem"

How to address police “testilying.” - "Would the criminal justice system collapse if cops were forced to tell the truth?"
Christopher Parham was grocery shopping for his boss when Henry Daverin, a plainclothes NYPD officer, approached him. Daverin accused Parham of driving recklessly on an illegal scooter without a helmet; a few minutes later, Parham was writhing in pain on the sidewalk outside. What happened during those few minutes was a matter of dispute. The NYPD said that Parham, a Black 19-year-old, had violently resisted arrest. Daverin and his colleagues said that they did not use force against him even though Parham had gruesome Taser burns all across his back.

Then surveillance video of the episode emerged—and proved that nearly every detail of the NYPD’s account was false. Parham had immediately cooperated with Daverin; he did not resist arrest. Nonetheless, Daverin and his colleagues had assaulted Parham, tackling him to the ground, then Tasing him over and over again. After Parham’s attorneys released the video—and his local representatives raised concerns—the district attorney dropped all charges. Daverin, who had been named in at least 10 other misconduct lawsuits, was never disciplined, either for brutalizing Parham or for lying about it. Two years later, he remains on the force.
Wikipedia has an article on  Police perjury
 

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The whole damn system needs to go.

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The US police were invented to control people that are "not like us" so it's still working as intended.

Edit: only difference now is they are so drunk with the power after all this time, that being a European settler from Brittan no longer protects you.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo_4x2n_hAY
What's in that video?

It's the one where police brutalized an elderly lady who was just walking down the street.

Yeah, that one was posted quite a while ago although her winning big money in her lawsuit is new.

My wife is trying to find a new liability insurer for the company she works for. They've had three claims in twenty years and got dropped. The insurance broker found one company willing to provide coverage for three times what they used to pay. How much of the police budget goes towards liability insurance, especially after incidents like this?
 

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I got dropped by my insurance company for reporting damages that I paid for myself and didn't file a claim (5 issues 3 having to do with Hurricane damage). I was trying to keep them up to speed with crap that went down with my house in case I really needed to file a claim so they would be aware of the current updates to the home. Oh well, my second insurance company is really happy with me. They can't for the life of them understand why the flying &%#$ (I'm trying to curse less on this board as of today) they did that.

Edit: I cursed
Edit 2: Sorry for the derail. I was pissed about how they treated that woman. It just goes to show that police being given way too much leeway to screw up their dealings with "thugs" you don't like ends up hurting people you do like.
 

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I got dropped by my insurance company for reporting damages that I paid for myself and didn't file a claim (5 issues 3 having to do with Hurricane damage). I was trying to keep them up to speed with crap that went down with my house in case I really needed to file a claim so they would be aware of the current updates to the home. Oh well, my second insurance company is really happy with me. They can't for the life of them understand why the flying &%#$ (I'm trying to curse less on this board as of today) they did that.

Edit: I cursed
Edit 2: Sorry for the derail. I was pissed about how they treated that woman. It just goes to show that police being given way too much leeway to screw up their dealings with "thugs" you don't like ends up hurting people you do like.

You have a house that is prone to damage. The fact you paid for it yourself doesn't change that.
 

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[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These 2 tweets are 9 days apart. Isn’t this called entrapment or something? <br><br>When are we going to reduce the scope of responsibilities of the NYPD and downsize our police force? <a href="https://t.co/bBRUbaJzsa">pic.twitter.com/bBRUbaJzsa</a></p>— Ozzie Araujo (he/him) (@OzzieAraujo) <a href="https://twitter.com/OzzieAraujo/status/1435433730131341313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]..
 

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I got dropped by my insurance company for reporting damages that I paid for myself and didn't file a claim (5 issues 3 having to do with Hurricane damage). I was trying to keep them up to speed with crap that went down with my house in case I really needed to file a claim so they would be aware of the current updates to the home. Oh well, my second insurance company is really happy with me. They can't for the life of them understand why the flying &%#$ (I'm trying to curse less on this board as of today) they did that.

Edit: I cursed
Edit 2: Sorry for the derail. I was pissed about how they treated that woman. It just goes to show that police being given way too much leeway to screw up their dealings with "thugs" you don't like ends up hurting people you do like.

You have a house that is prone to damage. The fact you paid for it yourself doesn't change that.

Who has a house that is not damage prone? And isn't the purpose of insurance companies to make money off people who don't file claims? Besides they are the ones that wanted to make sure the work was being done properly.

Edit: I honestly think i got dropped because an algorithm sent a flag to some idiots desk that didn't check the details.
 
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